Mewtwo's Shadow Ball Glide + Up B Ledge Cancel + Double Jump Cancel + True Combos!

[Kibzu~]

 

[The_ToolBag]

The True Psychic Warrior has arrived. I love these mixups

 

[VeggieSteel]

This looks like some great tech! Being able to move out of punish range on a fully charged shadow ball seems so useful. Good find!

 

[Uncertain Title]

Can't imagine the horizontal distance you could travel by B-Reversing his momentum into a Shadow Ball Glide after getting hit offstage.

 

[Khao]

Am I freaking insane, or is up tilt > up smash a true combo on high percents?

Training mode counted it as a combo against Greninja at 100%. He died.

 

[Kibzu~]

Btw! Mewtwo can J.C Up smash! And more ^^

 

[dilviko]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9fN_84vRz0

 

[dilviko]

 

[PD | Lewd]

Can't imagine the horizontal distance you could travel by B-Reversing his momentum into a Shadow Ball Glide after getting hit offstage.

My god this is amazing. Used to do this all the time in melee. MAH BOY IS BACK

 

[EndlessRain]

Okay, next thing I'm gonna do is get ledge cancelling down, and the next thing I'm gonna do after THAT is spam Teleport like I'm playing PM v3.02.

 

[AreJay25]

Apparently down tilt to dair is a true combo.

 

[Aninymouse]

That combo on Diddy is making me excited. DTilt>DTilt>UTilt>Bair on Falcon also seems very helpful. Thanks for this!

 

[ORVO5]

That combo on Diddy is making me excited. DTilt>DTilt>UTilt>Bair on Falcon also seems very helpful. Thanks for this!

You should try FAir>FJump>FAir>DAir, it's very satisfying, especially when you FAir them past the ledge to set up the spike.

 

[Aninymouse]

You should try FAir>FJump>FAir>DAir, it's very satisfying, especially when you FAir them past the ledge to set up the spike.

M-Mewtwo can Ken Combo?! That's awesome! Sweet irony!

 

[Mr_Fredrick_No]

Ok I don't have a vid for this sorry but i have been testing it out for a while try SideB>slide forward> Upsmash you have to make sure the slide and upsmash are quick and right after the sideB good luck

 

[Kibzu~]

Fair into fair isnt a true combo. <.>

Ok I don't have a vid for this sorry but i have been testing it out for a while try SideB>slide forward> Upsmash you have to make sure the slide and upsmash are quick and right after the sideB good luck

i demonstrated it into my true combo video.

 

[ORVO5]

Fair into fair isnt a true combo. <.>

How's that? Maybe I'm using the word combo wrong (Not that i called it a combo lol.)

 

[mobilisq]

Dthrow> fair works great at 75 to 100 percent on Mario, and can kill at the ledge

 

[Kibzu~]

Dthrow> fair works great at 75 to 100 percent on Mario, and can kill at the ledge

VERY easy to avoid. Down throw has so much cool down. Not viable at all.

 

[Kibzu~]

True Combo as in not escape-able.

How's that? Maybe I'm using the word combo wrong (Not that i called it a combo lol.)

 

[ORVO5]

True Combo as in not escape-able.

Ah gotcha! I was thinking more along the lines of strings. Definitely used FAir>FAir>DTilt a few times succesfully in FG though. Also Confusion>NAir is a good one 17 combo, 21% and it's fast. Not a true combo either but useful.

 

[Firefoxx]

Side b -> walk up u-tilt -> Up Smash is a true combo that KO's Mario on FD at 85% with no rage.

 

[Kibzu~]

Side b -> walk up u-tilt -> Up Smash is a true combo that KO's Mario on FD at 85% with no rage.

Side B is escapeable even if hit.

 

[Firefoxx]

Side B is escapeable even if hit.

Then up-tilt -> up-smash can be used on unsafe landings/whiff punishes. Still a true combo that KO's at 95%. If they are grounded you have to be pretty close to them without touching them to get the right hitbox.

 

[Enoki]

Here's something really cool: I haven't tested this thoroughly, but it looks like similarly to Ganon's side B, Mewtwo's confusion sets up a tech chase if you use it beneath the battlefield platforms. This could potentially mean a great way to land Usmash.

 

[ORVO5]

BTW I was playing with that up b cancel.. that thing is crazy. I love it! You can even up B again instantly for mind games (not sure if that's in the video.) Although if you miscalculate you could end up free falling off the stage.. just a warning. And thanks for posting these vids!

 

[Deleted member]

I've already done the Shadow Ball glide to recover (either normally or by B-Reversing), and I also throw it out on thirsty edge guarders. I'll juke an aerial from above stage level, B-reverse the Shadow Ball to recover and catch their aerial, potentially killing extremely early. Also, Jab 1 -> Grab may be a true combo on at least some characters, and possibly Jab 1 -> Jab 1 -> Grab, seeing as I can get both extremely consistently. Mewtwo's Fair also can function as a combo breaker, albeit not as good as Mario's Nair. For Mewtwo dittos, you can't Dthrow -> Fair at lower percents because the thrown Mewtwo can always Fair before you.

EDIT: Uncharged Shadow Ball sets up a jab lock if they miss a tech, useful for mixups if you consistently smash them after they tech a Confusion and decide to stop teching, they'll still eat a smash.

 

[Kibzu~]

I've already done the Shadow Ball glide to recover (either normally or by B-Reversing), and I also throw it out on thirsty edge guarders. I'll juke an aerial from above stage level, B-reverse the Shadow Ball to recover and catch their aerial, potentially killing extremely early. Also, Jab 1 -> Grab may be a true combo on at least some characters, and possibly Jab 1 -> Jab 1 -> Grab, seeing as I can get both extremely consistently. Mewtwo's Fair also can function as a combo breaker, albeit not as good as Mario's Nair. For Mewtwo dittos, you can't Dthrow -> Fair at lower percents because the thrown Mewtwo can always Fair before you.

EDIT: Uncharged Shadow Ball sets up a jab lock if they miss a tech, useful for mixups if you consistently smash them after they tech a Confusion and decide to stop teching, they'll still eat a smash.

Yes, I am making a video on mewtwo tips and tricks. Putting all my notes into it. I showed a true combo with shadow ball if you watched the combo video so ya :3 as for recovering with Shadow Ball Glide. I forgot to mention it in my video but im adding it into the tips and tricks/mewtwo guide.

 

[holymario]

I like the idea to recover with the shadowball but If you fail at reversing it you are screwed

 

[ckrocker]

Good techers can be punished after side B with a Shadow Ball if they tech away. So fas has worked for me 100% of the time. Also, side B is where your mixup game is tested since it doesnt chain into anything. Airdodging confuses opponents, and can be followed up with a Nair to land safely.

 

[Not_Indigo]

I like the idea to recover with the shadowball but If you fail at reversing it you are screwed

You can use a reverse side B -> neutral B if you want to play it safe, since confusion gives you a small boost and changes your direction in the air.

 

[holymario]

You can use a reverse side B -> neutral B if you want to play it safe, since confusion gives you a small boost and changes your direction in the air.

I feel so dumb that I didn't get that idea XD

 

[Enrel]

I've never been good at the teleport ledge cancels but the other things are nice to keep in mind.

 

[Katy Parry]

Something you guys should understand about teleports, coming from a Smash 4 Zelda main, is that Teleport moves KEEP THE MOMENTUM of the teleport and take you in the direction you're facing.

So for example. If you shorthop and teleport straight down, you will NOT appear where you would think. You will teleport ahead and forward onto the ground.

It is VERY annoying.

The ONLY exception to this rule is Sheik. Sheik will teleport normally.

 

[Kibzu~]

Something you guys should understand about teleports, coming from a Smash 4 Zelda main, is that Teleport moves KEEP THE MOMENTUM of the teleport and take you in the direction you're facing.

So for example. If you shorthop and teleport straight down, you will NOT appear where you would think. You will teleport ahead and forward onto the ground.

It is VERY annoying.

The ONLY exception to this rule is Sheik. Sheik will teleport normally.

It dont bother me :o

 

[Yonder]

Full charged shadow ball goes right through a full charged shuriken from Greninja...mmmm....

 

[Dark Phazon]

Does anyone know reguarding fully charged shadow ball vs Charge shot
knockback wise?
KO power?
Are they the same?

 

[EndlessRain]

Shadow Ball is stronger, not sure by how much.

 

[Kibzu~]

Full charged shadow ball goes right through a full charged shuriken from Greninja...mmmm....

Nah, Shadow ball travels stage length without max. So yah

 

[[TSON]]

as a recovering brawl lucas main

wavebounce sideb is so important to me