From the sounds of it, you are only thinking in terms of Mewtwo. If you think Yoshi is this good against Mewtwo, how is he not Mewtwo's worst matchup? The majority of the cast can shield grab Yoshi out of his jab. Yoshi's usmash is really his only good one. Fsmash has too much start-up, and you say the majority cannot punish because of the pushback, but from my thousands of battles of experience, the majority can punish.
You can't just talk about endlag and landing lag. Yoshi's fair is one of the slowest fairs in the game, and almost anybody can beat it out with a quicker move. Yoshi has a ton of trouble against Marth because our aerials get stuffed out, and then we have to utilize our ground game. Bair is easily punishable by a lot of characters, even when spaced. Go to the Yoshi boards and tell them Yoshi's frame data is amazing.
I cannot play right now and likely won't be able to until tomorrow.
If you don't trust me then listen from Zero himself say in his video (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz56j_XB5f8): "Despite Yoshi having
amazing frame data, there's just a lack of results, I would place him all the way on top tier but I have to be fair and look at results".
Also from a conversation I had myself with Mr. R and Vinnie just yesterday one of the two of them placed Yoshi in the top 5 chars of the game (I asked them both who they though were the best characters in the game, I can't remember who answered what but basically: Sheik, Rosa, Luigi, Mario, Fox, Pikachu, Yoshi, Sonic). The reason Mr. R or Vinnie said Yoshi was top 5 was because he had one of the best frame datas out of all chars and that he was a technical character who had lots of potential.
If you're just spamming F-Air randomly it can be punished easily, I am talking about spacing it and mixing it up between your projectiles and overall great mobility.
I am talking about endlag and landing lag because I am talking about punishing Yoshi, I never said Yoshi was OP, I am saying he can spam to avoid being punished and it works! Instead of, you know, intelligently having to think out when to throw attacks so he doesn't get punished.
For me, it's not as much that a good Yoshi is unbeatable (although apparently a lot of pros agree on him being really good, so there's that), it's that a bad Yoshi can do so much better than he should by just picking up Yoshi.
Same thing that happens with Luigi, you don't really need to be that great at the char to be semi-effective.
As for why I fight him with Mewtwo? Shadow Ball really helps a lot fight Yoshi. I find it easier to fight Yoshi with Mewtwo because I can take it slow and just make the few punishes that I get actually be worthwhile.
Also I would say fighting anyone with Mewtwo is hard. I legitimately don't know any matchup where I am actually happy to be playing Mewtwo. At most all I can think of is: "Well, at least we're about even". So Yoshi being hard is not a "special case", it's basically the life of a Mewtwo main.
Ok, let me know when you're available to play. You can quote me on this thread or just PM me.