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[Lucasmaster90]

why kirby is the worst in the game?

 

[kingPiano]

why kirby is the worst in the game?

He's not, but it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things since he is in the bottom half.

As for the majority of people that play him one time against a lvl 9 CPU and form an opinion? It's mostly because of his slow aerial movement and bad throws that people think he's the worst.

 

[Dolla Pills]

why kirby is the worst in the game?

I think it's just people salty over the ability to break out of his forward and back (and maybe up?) throws

 

[kingPiano]

You can't break out of Kirby's upthrow once it's started. It can also suicide near edge with DI or on recovery grab.

 

[Dolla Pills]

Ah good to know.

 

[Lucasmaster90]

and he can fly

 

[kingPiano]

and he can fly

I don't know about flying, it's more like falling with style

 

[Cool]

I don't know about flying, it's more like falling with style

Kirby confirmed Buzz Lightyear. Who's Woody?

 

[kingPiano]

Kirby confirmed Buzz Lightyear. Who's Woody?

Definitely Samus, she runs like Woody. She gangly.

 

[Cool]

Definitely Samus, she runs like Woody. She gangly.

Dayum. We need a Smash Toy Story.

 

[Lucasmaster90]

woody cant crawl

 

[Dolla Pills]

Woody's like Roy or Mewtwo because we all thought they were cool and then we moved on to other characters that were better.

 

[Cool]

Woody's like Roy or Mewtwo because we all thought they were cool and then we moved on to other characters that were better.

In that case, Fox is Buzz.

 

[Dolla Pills]

In that case, Fox is Buzz.

Well he's got a red laser

 

[Cool]

Well he's got a red laser

Falco's the evil Buzz?

 

[Kurri ★]

How's it going guys! I don't post here much but, anyone see this video?

It's a pretty nice video. I think it was well done.

Also, doubt it, but anyone know how to get Melee working on a Wii U? I know I saw footage of it somewhere, and it seemed like it worked fine.

 

[Sharkzie]

I didn't know whether to make my own thread or post here so I just decided to post here.
I am into the Smash 4 competitive scene but also trying to learn Melee.
However I have a different control setup that is very different from Melee's original controls.
I have Z set to jump and X set to grab on smash 4 and I will stick with it for the rest of my days.
Do you think this will correlate negatively with my play for both games? If so, what can I do?

 

[GeZ]

I didn't know whether to make my own thread or post here so I just decided to post here.
I am into the Smash 4 competitive scene but also trying to learn Melee.
However I have a different control setup that is very different from Melee's original controls.
I have Z set to jump and X set to grab on smash 4 and I will stick with it for the rest of my days.
Do you think this will correlate negatively with my play for both games? If so, what can I do?

You can't customize your control setup for Melee, so you'll just have to adjust.

 

[Sharkzie]

You can't customize your control setup for Melee, so you'll just have to adjust.

But do you think it'll have a negative correlation?
Say I was playing Melee, then go to play smash 4, do you think it'll impact my muscle memory or whatever?

 

[GeZ]

But do you think it'll have a negative correlation?
Say I was playing Melee, then go to play smash 4, do you think it'll impact my muscle memory or whatever?

Yeah, but switching from one to the other will always impact your performance. They're too different of games for it not to. It doesn't matter if you don't want to be very competitive.

 

[Sharkzie]

Yeah, but switching from one to the other will always impact your performance. They're too different of games for it not to. It doesn't matter if you don't want to be very competitive.

This really makes me want to switch back to default controls :/.
The controls I have for smash 4 allows me to swiftly and effectively have maximum control over my aerials.
I will focus more on smash 4 competitively more than Melee but I want to eventually do the same with Melee.
What do you suggest for this situation?

 

[GeZ]

This really makes me want to switch back to default controls :/.
The controls I have for smash 4 allows me to swiftly and effectively have maximum control over my aerials.
I will focus more on smash 4 competitively more than Melee but I want to eventually do the same with Melee.
What do you suggest for this situation?

You should really give competitive Melee a shot before you decide you want to give it a fair shake, or divide your time between it and Smash 4. It's a much tougher game on all fronts, honestly, and will take much longer to become reasonably proficient.

If you want to seriously improve, you don't have to pick one game, but your development will be greatly assisted by choosing one game. If you like Smash 4, go for that. The cycle to become competitive is more manageable, and quicker, than Melee's. After you feel you have a more competent grasp of the competitive mindset, or improvement mentality.

In general just be ready to really have to work at it. Being competitive at a game is much more of a laborious thing than people expect it to be, so try at it with one game before you try to commit to doing it with two.

 

[Sharkzie]

You should really give competitive Melee a shot before you decide you want to give it a fair shake, or divide your time between it and Smash 4. It's a much tougher game on all fronts, honestly, and will take much longer to become reasonably proficient.

If you want to seriously improve, you don't have to pick one game, but your development will be greatly assisted by choosing one game. If you like Smash 4, go for that. The cycle to become competitive is more manageable, and quicker, than Melee's. After you feel you have a more competent grasp of the competitive mindset, or improvement mentality.

In general just be ready to really have to work at it. Being competitive at a game is much more of a laborious thing than people expect it to be, so try at it with one game before you try to commit to doing it with two.

Just what I needed to hear, thank you!
I will come back to Melee when I have developed a competitive mindset !
Sorry for the repetition but what do you think I should do with the controls?

 

[GeZ]

Just what I needed to hear, thank you!
I will come back to Melee when I have developed a competitive mindset !
Sorry for the repetition but what do you think I should do with the controls?

I used custom controls for Project M for a while, and I see no problem with it. It'll just take some time to adjust to once you pick up Melee, but the games are different enough that it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Sharkzie]

I used custom controls for Project M for a while, and I see no problem with it. It'll just take some time to adjust to once you pick up Melee, but the games are different enough that it shouldn't be a problem.

Awesome, thanks again!

 

[GeZ]

Awesome, thanks again!

No probby, dude. Melee is a fun as heck game, and I'm definitely not saying you shouldn't touch it. Dip your toes in. Try it out and have fun.

 

[Dolla Pills]

So I think I broke my left index finger which I press L with (I don't use R for anything), so I can't play. Does anyone know a good therapist that can get me through these hard times?

 

[GeZ]

So I think I broke my left index finger which I press L with (I don't use R for anything), so I can't play. Does anyone know a good therapist that can get me through these hard times?

Just trying playing with your right finger :v

 

[Dolla Pills]

Just trying playing with your right finger :v

That's like asking someone to wipe with their other hand

 

[GeZ]

That's like asking someone to wipe with their other hand

The alternative is to stop playing Melee. The choice is yours.

 

[Dolla Pills]

The alternative is to stop playing Melee. The choice is yours.

Or, I could get a bionic finger. Is that tournament legal?

 

[GeZ]

Or, I could get a bionic finger. Is that tournament legal?

Dude, if bionic finger becomes an option, go ham. perfect shields all day.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So I think I broke my left index finger which I press L with (I don't use R for anything), so I can't play. Does anyone know a good therapist that can get me through these hard times?

Find a doctor/therapist.

Don't be M2K about it.

 

[Dolla Pills]

Find a doctor/therapist.

Don't be M2K about it.

I was kidding I'm not actually depressed at all, it's just a videogame.

 

[Baby_Sneak]

what if melee had a legit projectile zoner that was pretty solid/viable?

 

[Dolla Pills]

what if melee had a legit projectile zoner that was pretty solid/viable?

Most likely people would call the character derogatory terms for homosexual because said character wouldn't play like Fox or Falco.

 

[Baby_Sneak]

Most likely people would call the character derogatory terms for homosexual because said character wouldn't play like Fox or Falco.

I mean gameplay wise. The change in how people will play with the threat of such a character in the metagame.

 

[Dolla Pills]

I mean gameplay wise. The change in how people will play with the threat of such a character in the metagame.

Well obviously the only change to gameplay would be when the character is being played. I'd assume the way to deal with such a character would be to stay in a range where you could punish there projectile attempts but still block/react to any physical attacks. You'd kind of have to rush down a projectile zoning character because of they want the space to zone you out and limit your options.

Honestly it's a hard hypothetical because with the fast, aggressive pace of Melee projectile zoning characters just don't/wouldn't do that well. I'm trying to picture a Young Link but better, but it's really hard to come up with something that is reasonable (at least for me).

 

[Baby_Sneak]

Well obviously the only change to gameplay would be when the character is being played. I'd assume the way to deal with such a character would be to stay in a range where you could punish there projectile attempts but still block/react to any physical attacks. You'd kind of have to rush down a projectile zoning character because of they want the space to zone you out and limit your options.

Honestly it's a hard hypothetical because with the fast, aggressive pace of Melee projectile zoning characters just don't/wouldn't do that well. I'm trying to picture a Young Link but better, but it's really hard to come up with something that is reasonable (at least for me).

This is a interesting hypothetical IMO, the reason I asked it, because I think with that threat, could shake the meta up pretty violently.
Just think Ylink with BIG slow arrows with more damage (with little endlag), a boomerang with more control and KB, and a more damaging bomb that you can detonate at will with pressing down B again.
super complex, but I think that's what a zoner would kinda be in melee.

 

[Dolla Pills]

This is a interesting hypothetical IMO, the reason I asked it, because I think with that threat, could shake the meta up pretty violently.
Just think Ylink with BIG slow arrows with more damage (with little endlag), a boomerang with more control and KB, and a more damaging bomb that you can detonate at will with pressing down B again.
super complex, but I think that's what a zoner would kinda be in melee.

The problem is he still has to set up all these projectiles and fast characterslile Fox can just rush into his space and punish him for pulling a bomb. Against slower characters like Peach this works much better, and I'd say he's a perfectly valid choice against Peach even without hypothetical boosts.