Dandy_here
Smash Journeyman
Got my first Tournament in a week, any tips? The main reason i'm going is because they have melee friendly setups and RYU RYU RYU! It's sm4sh only, and I don't know why you would pick that over melee.
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lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
Just be sure to have a fun time. Don't be shy around people you don't know too well. And don't be obnoxious, there are a few of those people here. They're annoying imo
Dandy_here
Smash Journeyman
I already know a few of them(Thankfully). I am teaming with someone I don't know that well, so I am forced to not be shy, especially because I wan't to get to know people.
Know that you're gonna get rekt but keep a positive attitude anyways, keep your learning mindset over pride (learn why you lost and how to improve your play), and have fun.
Dandy_here
Smash Journeyman
I am definitely gonna have fun. I entered doubles with a guy who's pretty good, so HOPEFULLY I won't get rekt bad in doubles. BUT SINGLES... I need to find my coffin.
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
I'd say don't sweat it, the smash 4 scene isn't nearly as competitive as Melee. Still really fun though
Dandy_here
Smash Journeyman
The melee players are also going. But, they'll probably just play for fun(GET IT, "FOR FUN" )
GoatSniffer
Smash Rookie
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rofl xd lmfao kappa
Would you mind translating that?
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
It's in ancient ayyllamo speak
Brett30000
Smash Rookie
you are probably gonna get rekt but thats ok.
Dolla Pills
Smash Ace
Pls remember to not smell bad
captchagod64
Smash Rookie
i finally got a way of playing melee! I have to emulate it because i don't have the money to buy a gamecube, melee disk, controllers, and all that. i have been following the community since last evo, but i haven't been able to play until now. that said... i'm obviously trash, so i have a lot of practicing to do over the next weeks-months-years-etc.
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
Are you just playing base Melee on your computer (I'm assuming you're using the dolphin emulator). If that's the case you should download the 20XX hack pack, it makes training with melee a lot easier, plus there are extra costumes
Dandy_here
Smash Journeyman
That's a sell out move. You shouldn't get the hack pack till you beat the game, gives you the satisfaction that some got 13 years ago
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
...what? the hack pack doesn't add any hacks it just exists for the purpose of training. Plus you can still do all the single player stuff with it and actually use the c-stick
Dandy_here
Smash Journeyman
It unlocks everything. I need to beat a game before tampering with it.
captchagod64
Smash Rookie
i was going to, but i haven't got around to it, also i kind of agree with Dandy_here. it's nice to beat the game first.
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lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
OOOOOHHH! now I see where you're coming from, ok. I just personally feel that I shouldn't waste my time with the single player because I just wanted to train.
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zero sum
Smash Apprentice
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A few days ago I think I made a post in here expressing interest about match analysis. Since I haven't been able to sleep well recently and I don't have anything else I would rather do right now, I made a list of matches I'd like to examine in closer detail. I have more (the full list is 50+), but I think analyzing twenty sets before I go back to college in October is reasonable. I might make further cuts to the list to make it a little more manageable, but I think it'll take me considerably less time to analyze matches after I do the first few and get a feel for how it'll work. I think it's a good start, but is it too long?
e: I'd play the game more if I could, but as of now it's physically not possible for me to get useful practice in (I'm having hand pain unrelated to the game), so analysis is probably the next best thing as of now.
e: I'd play the game more if I could, but as of now it's physically not possible for me to get useful practice in (I'm having hand pain unrelated to the game), so analysis is probably the next best thing as of now.
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lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
If you'd like someone to analyse it with you so you could both note what kind of techniques are being used then I'd be happy to help you out man! Also sorry to hear your hand isn't doing so hot.
Chainz
Sleepy Chainz
Are cpus under the 20xx hack decent practice for when you're by yourself? If so, whats the right level to set them as?
Or should I just stick with the lab, and play only people when I get the chance?
Or should I just stick with the lab, and play only people when I get the chance?
zero sum
Smash Apprentice
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I'd suggest you go with the Training Mode and practice there. iirc 20xx lets you use the C-stick which is such a relief. You can do so much with it from Fox shield pressuring (and learning how to space hits on shield) to combo followups, especially since 20xx offers random DI for computers. All things considered, I never liked actually trying to play the computers as opposed to just going into Training Mode and practicing everything the hack pack offers on my own. At most you can shadowbox or try to space yourself just outside the range of a computer, but playing a computer like you'd play a person probably won't yield good results.
Then again, I'm not an expert on 20xx, so if someone would like to correct me, you're welcome to do so.
Then again, I'm not an expert on 20xx, so if someone would like to correct me, you're welcome to do so.
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Dolla Pills
Smash Ace
They're better than regular CPU's because they DI randomly and tech really well, but they're not good to the point where you should practice on them and not other people or anything like that. One thing they are really good for is learning to reaction tech chase though. Also always stick with no higher than level 3, personally I use level 1 but some people say 3.
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
Just play with people but still do some stuff with CPUs like setting them to aggressive and trying to evade them.
Why do you do that, why not use like level 9 or funky DI 7
Dolla Pills
Smash Ace
CPU's are useful only for the purpose of being sand bags to beat up, but higher level CPU's will do annoying things like power shield your moves and whatnot so you have to adapt your neutral game to them in a way that isn't helpful for actual play. Also when you have the hack pack even level ones will DI randomly
Wreckarooni
Smash Apprentice
It's quite fun to go 2 on 1 with lvl 8 CPUs
Makes you feel like you're getting jumped in an alleyway and you feel bada** when you triumph. There is just something satisfying about beating up two opponents (the extra hit lag and impact), you feel like Batman fending off two baddies. This is also why I like obliterating Ice Climbers in tourney >:D
Makes you feel like you're getting jumped in an alleyway and you feel bada** when you triumph. There is just something satisfying about beating up two opponents (the extra hit lag and impact), you feel like Batman fending off two baddies. This is also why I like obliterating Ice Climbers in tourney >:D
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Sempai
Smash Ace
Mew2king says lvl 1-4 cpus for DI mixups and all that
Chainz
Sleepy Chainz
Would just fighting them work? For improving reads? Or just DI chain grab practice?
Sempai
Smash Ace
20XX is the way to go, if you want to get better honestly.
But if thats not an option, yah just combo practice.
Chainz
Sleepy Chainz
I use 20XX, the cpus only a little bit different than the ones on the "clean" version.
Tbh, i only do tech and combo drills in the lab. But that only improves part of my game.
Sempai
Smash Ace
There are only so many things u can work on without humans.
Tech chases, DI mixups, Edge teching, chain throws, general movement.
But theres always something to work on.
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Dolla Pills
Smash Ace
It helps with reactionary stuff such as combos or tech chases or chain grabs as well as keeping your hands warm. It's not gonna help you with reads or nuetral or anything like that.
Plunder
Smash Ace
Anyone else having Evo stream issues. It is being very inconsistent for me, going offline then online at random intervals.
My internet is superb and running fine, and my proxy has never had stream issues...
My internet is superb and running fine, and my proxy has never had stream issues...
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
I was watching it from the tournament location and it was freezing occasionally but no huge issue
MintyGuy700
Smash Apprentice
Melee made it to most watched game!!
Plunder
Smash Ace
Yea tons of upsets, chokings, hidden bosses, and old god comebacks.
This has been such an amazing EVO so far and it's NOT EVEN FINALS YET!
This has been such an amazing EVO so far and it's NOT EVEN FINALS YET!
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
S2J / Silent Wolf / Hax$ - Top 24
KEN / West Ballz - top 16
PEW PEW U / HUGS - top 12
ChuDat / Axe in top 8
WHAT?!?!?
KEN / West Ballz - top 16
PEW PEW U / HUGS - top 12
ChuDat / Axe in top 8
WHAT?!?!?
QuickLava
Smash Journeyman
Quick question to the more advanced melee players here. A friend of mine has recently approached me about teaching them competitive smash. This person has pretty much no competitive experience whatsoever, but has played brawl pretty extensively as a casual. Should I begin teaching this person with Melee or with Project M?
lolazerz
Smash Journeyman
Definitely begin with PM and if he wants he could transition over to Melee but he might just stick to PM. But totally start with PM he'll feel more comfortable with it