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Link is middle tier, I don't know why they believe this. I found out why, all the Link players there are decent at best which is surprising due to the fact Europeans are always unique in their game-play.
Sorry I didn't clarify completely, but FOX can't tech Falco's down throw. There's an issue with his weight.
Whilst I wish he were higher, Link tourney placing's haven't been the best.
His D-throw did not change at all. All that changed is Fox's weight. Don't tell me Falco is bad because Fox can now tech is d-throw.
Plus, you can DI out of DAIR much further away in PAL, which damages Falco's combo game in PAL.
To which we look at the first tier list and see he's actually close to high tier in that.
U Smash killing 10% later, dying 5% earlier, less shine combos and a slightly shorter recovery doesn't change Fox that much. He's still Fox. Sheik and Falco where nerfed much more imo. Which explains this list.
Anyone want to go back to Link's D-Throw > Spin Attack in the NTSC version? Or at least start trying to play Link professionally for once?
Falco? Complete bull****. You never played PAL if you say that.
The hell are you talking about? His ability to combo Floaties or any character really didn't change even slightly. All that changed is the second half of the hitbox.
And why would that be? The angle, knockback and scaling is exactly the same in PAL.
Falco's D Air is NOT a spike it's a meteor in PAL. Him being #3 is a good spot cause Marth has a lot more going for him in PAL.Do I really have to say anything about this?I live in Europe, have been playing PAL Melee since 01.
I don't know but I trust Dr. Peepee's word on it. He was visiting Europe couple of years back when he attended "Smasher's Reunion" in Norway.
There is no evidence supporting his claim.
Dude Armada put Fox on #1... In PAL...Along with M2K and Armada, I still think Falco's the best in all 4 versions (NTSC-U 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, PAL, and NTSC-J) of the game.
Yes. Just like Brawl has MK and ICs and Smash 4 has Diddy, Rosy, and Sheik. Every smash game is unbalanced on purpose and will always have an overused character.Wow! This new tier list will bring more variety at tournaments!
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PAL Link is weaker then NTSC Link though, such as lacking his well known 360 spin Spike.
As much as I don't like you, you're kinda right. Link needs more people who would take him to his limits. Like Amsa is doing with Yoshi, for example. However, unlike Yoshi, Link is simply not capable of competing with top tiers besides maybe Marth. Top tiers are his main weakness. He's completely helpless against them, so it would take a hell of a lot of talent to even hold your own in top level play. You can really tell how good a Link main is based on how well he does v.s. the top characters because of how much effort is needed to outplay them. It's inspiring to watch a Link kicking high tier ass, even if he ends up losing the set. With enough solid rep, I have some hope that he'll make it into mid tier at least since he definitely isn't very far from it in the current tier lists.
ohhhh ight
Nerfs like that shouldn't matter in a game like Melee, it's the way he's used which annoys me. Whenever I view Links play it's like watching a Smash-4 Link play in For Glory at times which baffles me as in projectile play, he has more potential than depending on Bombs for combos, now when it's Young Link however, he's jumping here and there, bairs to grab, tech chase and so forth, big difference huh? Don't get me wrong though, I'm aware Links like J6 play, but his flow is strange and he grabs way too much, he doesn't max out Bomb combos, just Nair all day which of course Link has other airs like Fair, Bair and Uair if you know how to start up some creative combos. Do I know how he must be played?Oh really? I blame Up B nerfs but that could just be me.
Imo it's
Yeah? he usually beats Fox in NTSC, too. What's your point? Marth has a positive matchup on spacies. Does that mean he should be the highest tier?
Eh saturation is different still in each version.
They generally don't apply to you anyway.
Your whole post is simply wrong.
If you're going to say that my whole post is "simply wrong", than at least point a mistake out in it. Since you didn't, I'm going to assume that I'm right for now.
But I did. Can you not read?
