Melee online?

[Station]

Hi, I haven't visited these forums in a loooooooong time. Since the days when I used to play Smash 64 on kaillera. I lost interest in the series due to brawls poor online.

I've recently become aware that melee can be played online essentially lag free http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfd8DrbdK8c, and was wondering how popular this is? I'd be interested in starting to play melee again if there were as strong of a community for it as there was for Smash 64 online.

Could someone fill me in?

 

[LLDL]

Almost no Melee players have computers good enough to run Melee online, so there isn't a community for it right now.

 

[Zodiac]

There are a number of problems

1.desynching issues
2.even when it doesn't desynch, the lag is unacceptable while playing melee
3.It takes a hefty pc to run something like that without any hiccups

if someone specifically worked on the first two problems with dolphin we could see melee online lot more than we do know, but we would still have the third problem.

 

[Station]

There are a number of problems

1.desynching issues
2.even when it doesn't desynch, the lag is unacceptable while playing melee
3.It takes a hefty pc to run something like that without any hiccups

if someone specifically worked on the first two problems with dolphin we could see melee online lot more than we do know, but we would still have the third problem.

When you say the lag is unacceptable do you mean 1 or 2 frames of lag like SSFIV or literally unplayable?

EDIT: Would you say my PC could run Melee online comfortably?

http://i.imgur.com/gn6kT.png

 

[Twinkles]

I think Melee on Dolphin can run quite well on your PC.

My connection's not great, but I didn't have a lot problems with lag when doing Dolphin online. It is like a few frames though.

Desynching is really a big issue though.

 

[Dan Salvato]

Melee online is currently not worth the trouble. Too many issues need to be worked out. Here's one: Dolphin netplay basically only works in single-core mode, and no modern PC can run Melee smoothly with a single core.

 

[Massive]

When you say the lag is unacceptable do you mean 1 or 2 frames of lag like SSFIV or literally unplayable?

EDIT: Would you say my PC could run Melee online comfortably?

http://i.imgur.com/gn6kT.png

Just about any dual core machine with a reasonably modern video card can run melee on dolphin well locally. You just can't play online well.

The biggest issue is that random events between two games, as well as minute differences in timing cause the two games to desync in very short order. Characters like Peach, Ice Climbers, and Luigi are almost completely unreliable in terms of sync for online play.

That and the single core issue that IE noted.

 

[Levingy]

Could we built our own program specified for melee-online game, which would allow melee to work online perfectly? I know it would take much time and effort, but it could be worth a shot if we gather many people to work it?

 

[Massive]

Could we built our own program specified for melee-online game, which would allow melee to work online perfectly? I know it would take much time and effort, but it could be worth a shot if we gather many people to work it?

This is already underway, its progress being kept very low key to prevent Minecraft syndrome from the denizens of smashboards.

 

[Sinji]

Wait...... Is this the tenth Melee online thread this year?......

 

[Station]

This is already underway, its progress being kept very low key to prevent Minecraft syndrome from the denizens of smashboards.

I think the problem with minecraft was that people paid for the service under the belief that they were paying for for the updates Notch promised them but failed to deliver on.

 

[Strong Badam]

Wait...... Is this the tenth Melee online thread this year?......

Yeah, like honestly. I feel like we get one at least once a month.

 

[Glöwworm]

Yeah, like honestly. I feel like we get one at least once a month.

It's just that, you know, the idea that you can play Melee online tends to make people froth at the mouth from excitement.

 

[link2702]

i know I'ma catch major hell for saying this but....


why not just use the project m mod of brawl?

the people dealing with it really do seem like they are trying their hardest to get it to feel as close to melee as possible, and you'll have an online system to boot.

of course the problem there is that its still brawl's online system...but compared to what i've read here its probably still more reliable then the way dolphins online is..

 

[Dan Salvato]

i know I'ma catch major hell for saying this but....


why not just use the project m mod of brawl?

the people dealing with it really do seem like they are trying their hardest to get it to feel as close to melee as possible, and you'll have an online system to boot.

of course the problem there is that its still brawl's online system...but compared to what i've read here its probably still more reliable then the way dolphins online is..

Melee is unplayable with the amount of input lag Brawl online has. Also, Project:M is not Melee. It's a new and different game. You're basically asking Street Fighter: 3rd Strike players to play SFIV instead.