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MaNg0

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Ok i get off of summer school in 2 days

and then i have month to do whatever

SO heres the plan

I dont wanna be home

so ne one willing to pick me up probably from pats

can have me at there house as long as they want

to play melee and watch movies and stuff =D

and u kinda have to feed me =D

THEN WE GO TO PATS ON THE WEEKENDS!!!

**** ****

*looks at*

818

805

.. other people

*** brawl =D
and the community
**** noobs
=D

o yea

mango training ftw -_-

!!!!

****

<33333333333333333333333333333333333333333 u guys

450 -7104 ( 562 )

<3

Stops

1.Romeo...

2.Larry....

3.Jopez...
 

ConnorTheKid

Treat Yo' Self
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Mango, I'll house you a weekend and on that weekend, there'll be a smashfest or tournament at my new house :)
 

Boolossus

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*** the melee and brawl communities and their noobs. I'll pick you up, and anyone else, as long as they've got an N64. Smash 64 for life. Melee and Brawl are just garbage compared to that masterpiece.
 

embracethe12

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i can house you here in the 805 (as long as it's one person, i'm pretty sure you could live here for like more than 4 days)
food is no problem at all, my house is full of it.

i don't gots a car so we have to rely on replicate/greatleon for rides anywhere. but you got a home here in the 805 mangozz:bee:
 

NeighborhoodP

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your house is full of food?

i should house with you and not rapelicate :(

i'll even teach you everything sheik related you want to know. sheik sucks.
 

Shroomed

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yeah, mario destroys sheik lol

why does socal have so much more melee stuff going on then norcal? sucks
 

embracethe12

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your house is full of food?

i should house with you and not rapelicate :(

i'll even teach you everything sheik related you want to know. sheik sucks.
his mom makes bomb *** food too P.
I don't think sheik sucks so bad. all the top tiers/most popular characters pretty much destroy her in matchups, but i manage to hold my own.
 

NeighborhoodP

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sheik's suckiness is overrated -- she's a great character, just takes extra work -- but when i say she sucks her fun ratio is just too low, which doesn't give you much reward for all that extra work you have to put in
 

NeighborhoodP

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lol sheik sucks?

try playing falco noobs
yes, i'm sure dashizwiz, keepspeedn, eggm, lambchops, zhu, dope, pc chris, forward, bombsoldier, helios, zanguzen, mathos, aldwyn, viperboy, hiko, and Dav3 would all agree with that assessment.

compared to the litany of sheik pros like drephen, plank, nihonjin, kdj, dsf, marcus, captain jack, and....

oh wow, much shorter list. wonder why.

most pros even pick their secondaries amongst falco (or fox) rather than sheik.
 

Miharu

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And how is that relative to how good of a character Sheik is?

The number of people using a certain character doesn't directly determine just how good that character is.

Please use a more objective list if you're going to bother using one at all. IE, do something like take the top ___ players in the US/World, see how many of them use Sheik/Falco, if they win tournaments with Sheik/Falco(or another different character), and so on.

yes, i'm sure dashizwiz, keepspeedn, eggm, lambchops, zhu, dope, pc chris, forward, bombsoldier, helios, zanguzen, mathos, aldwyn, viperboy, hiko, and Dav3 would all agree with that assessment.
Asked them yet?


compared to the litany of sheik pros like drephen, plank, nihonjin, kdj, dsf, marcus, captain jack, and....

oh wow, much shorter list. wonder why.
You didn't bother doing your research.

most pros even pick their secondaries amongst falco (or fox) rather than sheik.
Sheik doesn't suit their playstyle, they don't like Sheik as a character, etc; there's a whole handful of other possibilities that you failed to address.
 

ResidentWaffle

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yes, i'm sure dashizwiz, keepspeedn, eggm, lambchops, zhu, dope, pc chris, forward, bombsoldier, helios, zanguzen, mathos, aldwyn, viperboy, hiko, and Dav3 would all agree with that assessment.

compared to the litany of sheik pros like drephen, plank, nihonjin, kdj, dsf, marcus, captain jack, and....

oh wow, much shorter list. wonder why.

most pros even pick their secondaries amongst falco (or fox) rather than sheik.
don't forget isai, rob$, forward(also), Neo and Hayato but yeah the list is still much shorter. More people play falco cuz it's fun to combo people across the stage then it is to dash attack-fair.
 

MaNg0

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yay

i have people to stay with =D


and wow

sheik *****

well mines does

it can beat joey fox's

=D
 

ResidentWaffle

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I'm not saying Sheik sucks just that she is boring a lot of the time. I really ever play her in friendlies.
 

NeighborhoodP

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the number of pros in a character is directly correlated to just how easy it is to become pro at that character. that's pretty evident to see. that's why you see a lot of falcon pros. not because falcon is one of the very best characters, but because it's easy to master the things that allows him to compete on a pro level.

it's a lot harder to get pro with sheik, a lot lot lot harder, which is why you see less of it, especially the really good players. my list of falco players is also much better than the majority of those sheik players outside of drephen/plank/kdj/nihonjin.

edit: ps, hydro, why do you try so hard? you can make those connections yourself, this isn't some presidential level debate dude.
 

Miharu

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the number of pros in a character is directly correlated to just how easy it is to become pro at that character. that's pretty evident to see. that's why you see a lot of falcon pros. not because falcon is one of the very best characters, but because it's easy to master the things that allows him to compete on a pro level.
Why are you arguing a different point than the original one (which is, by the way, that Sheik is better than Falco as a character, or vice versa).

Doesn't have much to do with how easy it is to "become pro" with either character.

it's a lot harder to get pro with sheik, a lot lot lot harder, which is why you see less of it, especially the really good players. my list of falco players is also much better than the majority of those sheik players outside of drephen/plank/kdj/nihonjin.
That's all well and good, but that doesn't make Sheik an inferior character.

Don't bother with the "why are you trying so hard" when you're getting verbally *****. Pretty sure you're trying quite a bit harder than I am, and yet you still fail to make a valid argument that addresses the original point.
 

NeighborhoodP

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hydro hydro, i don't know why you insist in turning it into some dramatic pissing contest when you're seemingly intentionally being so close minded.

think about it. what was the original hypothetical composed? something like "falco sucks [relative to sheik]." if you're going to come out and say such an inane statement, then what about players XYZ 123 who have dramatic tournament success with falco, compared to the handful of equally accomplished sheik players? at the very least it suggests your opinion is compromised or jaded in some form if you believe that's the case. either that or you're just attention wh0ring. at the most we're talking about stuff on the margins, but it's undeniable it's a lot easier to get falco on the level of pro, which is a point in and of itself that i'm sorry you can't see.

i shouldn't have to connect the dots for you. stop taking it so literally.
 

Eggm

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Sheiks a better char overall than falco, however by no means is falco easier to become pro with than ANY other character. If anything hes the hardest. You literally have to be flawless to play him at the top level. Also good luck mango.

M2k also feels sheik is the best character, but I think its marth. Lol.
 

NeighborhoodP

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^ tech skill is not hard to get flawless with. it's mere muscle memory that every human has the capacity to do and replicate. and no, playing vs falco you have to play flawlessly since you only get a handful of openings per stock and any mistakes are punished easily and harshly.

sheik gets ***** by the two most common characters in the game, and she doesn't **** the rest of the cast of good characters nearly as well as fox and falco do, save for marth. and considering that marth matchup is one of the main things sheik can hang her hat on, it's really quite close once the marth is good.
 
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