Megaman X: Day of Death. ~ EVERYBODY DIED. SCUM WINS. GAME OVER.

[Overswarm]

So







someone might have just given themselves away

 

[Overswarm]

Raziek, what do you think about Inferno scum?

vote Raziek

 

[Gova]

1. Inferno3044 (1) Nabe
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (2) Xatres, Nich
4. Red Ryu ()
6. Analytical Buttheads ()
7. Rajam ()
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres (1) Tery
10. Terywj ()
11. Raziek (4) Boat, JTB, RR, OS
12. Boatchouli (2) Raziek, Inferno
13. Frozenflame751 ()

Not voting - AB, FF

With 12 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is September 30th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

 

[Raziek]

Other than noticeable us of the word "us", I'm not seeing the scumslip, OS. Us read to me as 'Town'.

 

[Overswarm]

What

do you think

of Inferno scum Raziek?

Would you be willing to switch the wagon from you to Inferno?

vote Raziek

I might be willing to.

 

[Raziek]

Not without some compelling evidence.

It doesn't make sense for panicCircus to try to swing the lynch to Tery or Inferno if Inferno's on his scumteam.

 

[Nicholas1024]

@OS
Why do your actions make so little sense? WHY? You say that the Raziek wagon is ridiculously scummy (which I agree completely with), then you jump on it without explanation, and push it like crazy?!?

You should learn to think clearer, Nich. You've let my previous play cloud your head, and you're coming at this from the point of "OS could be scum". Not "Anyone could be scum". While I'm flattered, it's hardly a good way to play mafia.

You're hands down the best scum player in this game, so I pay the most attention to you. Basically, since I don't buy the explanation for the Frozen/AB wagons, I have to ask "Dumb or scum?", and you are one player that can't be classified as dumb.

Oh, and before we get into this, what are your thoughts on this post: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13393786&postcount=737

There's lots of quotes, but little payoff.

1) I have pushed multiple wagons that, by my own admission, weren't any good. I had no intentions of following those wagons through; adumbrodeus has hinted at catching on to this prior. It is from these false wagons we have most of our reads. Get with the program.

My problem is the following:

You're still pushing said bad wagons! The Raziek wagon has about as much logic behind it as Zen's case on me in Fire Emblem (read: less than zero). Pushing one bad wagon for reads, I can understand that. Maybe even two. But doing almost nothing BUT pushing bad wagons when we already have plenty of stuff we can analyze for reads? I don't buy it!

2) I have been after a bunch of claims. If you don't recall, Boat and Raziek were against one another and were the agreed upon lynch candidates at that time. Do you remember whose idea it was for them to claim? Do you know why Boat requested Raziek claim before he did? Do you remember the order in which they came about? The Xatres claim is paramount to town's success; he's given mafia information they can interpret. He's given town nothing. All he said was "I have reason to believe there is a mafia flavor cop"; why he believes that is unknown. But scum know if he's telling the truth, and we don't. Scum also know how that information could be bad for them. Scum also now know they can't use this claim for town. So... WHY did Xatres say this? What reason could he possibly have, and what reason do we have to trust him? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that when someone says "Hey guys, there's definitely a mafia role cop in this game, but I won't tell you! Don't want to give too much away" he's not playing in town's best interests.

They were the most likely lynches at that point, but your calling for claims was premature. If we all agreed (as we SHOULD) that Boat's scummy and Raziek's not, why make Raziek claim? I don't think either of them got above 4 votes. Regarding Xatres I want you to explain this more, how can mafia get anything useful out of "Hey guys, there's a mafia role cop in this game?". Perhaps Xatres is a VT with that small bit of mod-confirmed info, and wanted to draw a NK, for instance.

3) I have done the analysis. If you recall, FF and AB are both cleared and Circus is dead.

There's more to analyze that you haven't done. Sure, you analyzed Circus's posts, but what about people posting relative to Circus? What about his companions on the FF wagon that actually nailed him? What about who was on Circus's wagon and who was against it? The three scum picks you gave after said analysis (Boat, JTB, and Raziek) don't follow from said analysis at all, as Raziek was the second vote on Circus, and Boat/JTB were inactive!

4) You point out that Xatres scum going after OS would be suicide, but then you do so yourself? Why would you be able to do something of the sort when Xatres could not?

Mafia 101, OS.

Newer scum try to hide away from attention.

Getting into a case of you attracts a ridiculous amount of attention.

You were regarded as the #1 townie by the vast majority of the game, and you're well known as an excellent player.

Therefore:

Scum going after you makes very little sense at this stage of the game.

Therefore:

Xatres is likely town.

As for why I think I can accomplish something: As you said in the Time Travelers recap, I know what I can do, and I know how to do it, and that is to make a case and bring a spotlight onto my reads.

Your "case" is a longwinded way of saying "Overswarm's doing things, and I don't understand them". I know AB has seen some of the things I've done, and I think Boat's caught on too. You should know by now that I do everything with a purpose.

Quite right, and I'm arguing that the scum purpose makes a lot more sense than the townie one here.

More importantly, nothing in your case is connected to one another, nor do they make any sense based off of my scum play in the past.

You know your own meta, making it mostly useless to apply. I read your recap of Community Mafia, you basically pushed townies and defended scum all game with the defense of "OS-scum wouldn't do that, it goes completely against my meta!". (Note to everyone else: It worked, OS won.) At this point your reliable scum meta is something like the following:

OS is scum implies:

Scum wins.

That's about it.

In this one post, you're suggesting that I'm scum and I have:

-pushed bad wagons deliberately and not followed through on them, then admitted openly to doing so without being asked about it
-openly asking people to claim
-not pushing lynches
-saying things that cast me in a townie light

Which, exactly, is the one that's making you say "gotcha"? Because I've stated my reasoning for the first one and the next three are pretty irrelevant.

You just straw manned me. My points are

-Pushed bad wagons deliberately, and when they fell apart claimed that it was for reads.
-Pushing for premature claims (This is a minor point)
-Not analyzing said bad wagons that were supposedly for reads, instead either letting town drift on its own course or pushing MORE bad wagons (Raziek)
-Lying to cast himself in a townie light.

With the possible exception of #2 (which is more of a FOS), they all cause me to say "GOTCHA."

Oh, and by the way? Frozen Flame started the Circus lynch, not you.

He was the first one to voice suspicion, but I was the one who did most of the work, let's face it. (First vote on the wagon as well, IIRC.)

Spoiler

You'd be rather amused at how much I agonized over the decision whether to push you or not, I bet. If I whiff the decision either way it's the mafia game equivalent of suicide. But yeah, I'll admit that FE has made me slightly paranoid about your scum game.

You know, when you called the Raziek wagon scummy, I was starting to doubt my read on you and debating whether to go after Boat, but then you ruined it. XD

@AB
*cough* Circus lynch in 6 hours *cough*

That said, if the support isn't there, I will switch to Boat. Not voting Raziek under any circumstances whatsoever.

Anyway, I want you to promise me something, AB. Should I get NK'd at any time, I want you to keep a very close eye on OS, as you're the only slot I can see that could actually get him lynched if he's scum. (short of something completely unpredictable like a cop claim or Frozenflame actually being active.)

@OS again
I don't see the point, but there's no harm in humoring you, I'm staying with my Vote: OS for the present.

 

[Overswarm]

Right before AB's color fiasco:

1. Inferno3044 (1) Circus
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (2) Rajam, Boat
4. Red Ryu ()
5. Circus ()
6. Analytical Buttheads (5) OS, Nich, RR, Raziek, FF
7. Rajam (1) Xatres
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres ()
10. Terywj ()
11. Raziek ()
12. Boatchouli (1) Inferno vote on Boat o_O
13. Frozenflame751 (1) AB

Not voting - JTB, Tery

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is September 20th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

Immediately after (added Inferno and Raziek's votes that were immediately after this post)

1. Inferno3044 ()
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (2) Rajam, Boat
4. Red Ryu ()
5. Circus ()
6. Analytical Buttheads (3) Nich, Raziek, FF
7. Rajam (1) Xatres
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres ()
10. Terywj ()
11. Raziek ()
12. Boatchouli (1) Inferno
13. Frozenflame751 (5) OS, RR, Circus, Inferno, Raziek

Not voting - JTB, AB, Tery

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is September 20th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

Immediately after the FF defense, Red Ryu switches off. FF and Red Ryu are both town.

1. Inferno3044 ()
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (2) Rajam, Boat
4. Red Ryu ()
5. Circus (1) FF
6. Analytical Buttheads (1) Nich
7. Rajam (1) Xatres
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres ()
10. Terywj ()
11. Raziek ()
12. Boatchouli (1) RR
13. Frozenflame751 (3) OS, Inferno, Raziek

Not voting - JTB, Circus, AB, Tery

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is September 20th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

Inferno then immdiately switches his vote back to Boat and Xatres suggests a No Lynch, and Raziek follows immediately.

After everyone's switched to new people (I'm at the movies with my lady :B):

1. Inferno3044 ()
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (2) Rajam, Boat
4. Red Ryu ()
5. Circus ()
6. Analytical Buttheads (1) Nich
7. Rajam ()
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres ()
10. Terywj (2) Circus, FF
11. Raziek ()
12. Boatchouli (1) RR, Inferno
13. Frozenflame751 (1) OS,
No Lynch (1) Xatres

Not voting - JTB, AB, Tery

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is September 20th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

There were 5 hours left until deadline. They were going for a No Lynch.

Inferno and Raziek both go for a Boat lynch on multiple occasions.

After FF brings up Circus, Nich comes in with the wagon starter:

Not counting AB who couldn't vote, there were 5 people on Frozen's wagon before he even had a chance to respond.

Those 5 people are OS, Red Ryu, Circus, Inferno, and Raziek.

OS is OS, I had a town read on him beforehand (even if his actions in this regard have shaken it), and it'd take a minor miracle to get him lynched today even if I was super-confident in him being scum.

Red Ryu, Inferno, and Raziek are all closer to the new/bad player end of the scale, and therefore are likelier to sheep when the wagon is led by OS and AB. (Not that I don't plan to confront them over their actions, but they're not my target just now.)

Who's that leave? Circus. Who is one of the players in this game you would NOT expect to sheep. Let's take a close look at his actions, starting with OS's case (when he actually posted it) on AB.

What Nich didn't do was think a step farther; Circus wouldn't have acted on his own. Red Ryu was one of the first people OFF the FF lynch, and prior to that and post that, Inferno, Raziek, and Circus moved together.



What is the response immediately after Nich's post?

@Nich - My vote was based on him not doing much until 12 hours before the lynch and his very opportunistic vote on AB. The people on the wagon don't look too scummy either. Especially with a confirmed town on it.

The vote has come down to Boat and Tery. There are 10 people in here atm. All of you should vote.

I really don't agree with Red Ryu and Inferno saying "Boat or Tery".

Yeah, Boat is fine, but why exactly is Tery a guaranteed lynch choice over someone like Circus or OS? If anything I'd say stronger cases have been made against those two players than against Tery

Raziek, join the Circus wagon and tell me why you were on Frozenflame ASAP.

Raziek's response? WHY NOT BOAT GUYS?

I was on the Frozenflame wagon because I believed the color thing sufficiently cleared AB, and I didn't want to see a NL. Yeah, there's the possibility it was a given safeclaim, but we're not even really supposed to discuss it anymore.

I'll admit I'm kinda just hopping my vote around here, but we need to get SOMETHING together.

Nich, given that Boat has yet to post anything of substance, and it's entirely possible that we may not get a claim out of either player, do you still feel better lynching Circus than Boat?

@Raziek
Boat I feel much better about as a vigilante choice due to connections. We push a lynch on Boat, there's more or less no connections from the wagon, simply because there's no big argument in favor of him being townie. We push a lynch on Circus, there's PLENTY of connections from the wagon (Me/Frozen for starters). I wouldn't complain if Boat was the play today, but he's a reserve lynch, not an ideal one.

Alright Nich, I'll buy that.

unvote; vote: Circus

1. Inferno3044 ()
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (3) Rajam, Boat, Xatres [THIS ENTIRE WAGON IS GOING NOWHERE AND NO ONE HAS JOINED OR LEFT IT. IT IS STALE. SCUM DO NOT DO STALE WAGONS]
4. Red Ryu ()
5. Circus (2) Nich, Raziek
6. Analytical Buttheads ()
7. Rajam ()
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres ()
10. Terywj (2) Circus, FF
11. Raziek ()
12. Boatchouli (1) RR, Inferno
13. Frozenflame751 (1) OS,


Not voting - JTB, AB, Tery

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is September 20th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

There was no cohesive push at the end against a townie because scum were going for a No Lynch

At this point there was no evidence whatsoever that town was going to get a lynch on Circus, and Raziek's vote was NOT a "Yeah, let's get Circus" vote. It was a vote he was badgered into giving onto Circus mere hours prior to deadline, and he was only the second vote of seven. Putting your scummate at L-5 with 4 hours left is hardly daring.

Public Mental Note: Rajam now viewing the thread.

Wow, I see 9 different players in this game viewing the thread right now. If people cooperate we can get the lynch in no time. (And is anyone else amused that OS of all people has the most votes right now?)

Not really, two of the votes are from people who haven't been around the thread for days... :-/

I know, but it's amusing to see.

In more important news:

Xatres, your opinion on Circus?

Rereading, thoughts on Circus impending...

Unvote
Vote: Circus

Circus is being very Opportunistic, I agree with this.

After this is Tery's list of reads which seems really scummy, but I'm ignoring him for now. Just use Tery as a bomb later when you want to kill someone else. Tery can take out someone else for us to give us two in one go, helps lower the numbers so we can see clearer. So ignoring for now.

Can we actually get our options narrowed down?

Cause Tery, I wouldn't mind per say, I'd much prefer Boat and Circus honestly.

Then narrow it to Tery, Boat, or Circus.

I personally agree with the point Nich made regarding actual connections from a Circus lynch. I'm hoping he has a post coming (Circus), since he hasn't exactly defended himself yet.

Lol, I don't know why I keep thinking you're mafia, but when I read this I went back and checked EVERY vote looking for a pattern of you riding a wagon. Couldn't find it. In fact, you've been very unopporunistic, which is great considering how many bad wagons we've had.

I'm thinking you are town, RR, despite what my stupid guts keep saying.

Unvote.

Vote: Circus

I'm going out to dinner with some friends, but I should be back for the final hour. Putting my vote on Circus in the meantime, because I trust Nich and RR right now.

AB, in case you haven't noticed, Circus has 4 votes already, me/Raziek/Red Ryu/Xatres. That's over half what we need to lynch.

I'd rather it be 2 choices, but if we have to do it with 3 then let it be.

Anybody not on Boat, Tery, or Circus move now.

?!

He's STILL on about this?

@Tery - Xatres is not getting lynched today and you having your vote on him is not helping the town at all. I suggest you switch. Same goes with Rajam's vote on OS and OS's vote on Frozen. I see you online Rajam. Stop lurking.

@OS - Of all the times to not be online, you choose 2 hours before the deadline with no lynch has been established. Get online and contribute.

Yeah, because I can hear you from the movie theater? You want to get on anybody for not contributing and I'm last in line, buddy.

vote: Circus

Two hours. Prolly won't hear much for me. Voting for most votes atm.

Ugh. Whatever. I'd suggest looking into that at another time. For now, I'll unvote and vote: Circus.

Rajam, you should either post or ask for a replacement ASAP.

There's no reason to put a scummate at L-2. No reason at all.

Raz, I don't even really know what you're saying. I just think it's ridiculous that Tery is actually trying to get another completely new lynch candidate in the mix, and is apparently totally oblivious to why that is the opposite of helpful.

Tery hasn't done anything productive all game. His first several posts included lots of excuses and following stupid reads and fluff. This sums up pretty much everything he has done in this game until he eventually just stopped posting entirely. Then after being absent for four straight days, he comes back to the thread JUST to do this.

He has nothing to say about the validity of OS' case or AB's defense or who was following the wagon or anything like that. He just sees AB make a goof that confirms him as town and then points at it saying "mods, get him!" Now, the fact that AB did in fact apparently break the rules is irrelevant here. The point is to analyze the intent behind something like this. What is more likely? That Tery is chivalrous town, trying to enforce the rules despite the toll it takes on his faction? Or that Tery is scum trying to make sure a townie gets the axe by any means possible?

There's your case. Lynch this scum.

Circus decides to add to Tery's defense. It's possible Circus expected himself to die at this point and let Tery move on, but I doubt it.

Where the **** did everyone go?

Lynch Circus.

Although that comes up right after, so if Raziek flips scum and Tery doesn't die... killing Tery and using Tery's ability to kill Inferno would be a safe bet. Make Inferno hammer.

Bah, circus lynch is dumb, he was far too willing to push against the case on me (who you now know is town). He has issues, but boat would be a much better lynch.

How wrong AB always is

About ****ing time.

LOOK HOW TOWN I AM EVERYONE



Why would Raziek be so gung ho and visible about Circus flipping

What does it say about a townie if you're lynching them and you say "Hell yeah"? You say that knowing their flip.

post to avoid modkill.

I'll be in toMorrow. Sorry for the inactivity.

Final Votecount:

1. Inferno3044 ()
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (1) Boat
4. Red Ryu ()
5. Circus (7) Nich, Raziek, RR, Xatres, Tery, OS, Rajam
6. Analytical Buttheads ()
7. Rajam ()
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres ()
10. Terywj (1) Circus
11. Raziek ()
12. Boatchouli (2) Inferno, FF
13. Frozenflame751 ()

Not voting - JTB, AB

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Circus has been lynched! The game is in twilight until further notice.

To be fair, he was playing Monster Hunter with me. ._.

Raziek can't be lying about this unless he and Boat are scum, btw. Boat actually WAS away from the game.






IN CONCLUSION


Circus, Inferno, and Raziek moved together on the Frozen Wagon, and then after Red Ryu moves off and FF is no longer under heat, they all move out in three separate directions. They remain cautiously separate the entire time, but their posts all point in the same directions.


Raziek and Inferno scum team possible.

It's possible Tery could be one of the other slots, but I'm not sure.



I'm gonna go on this one.


So, Raziek. Want to maek a case on Inferno? Prove yourself to me.

Vote: Raziek

 

[Overswarm]

OS is scum implies:

Scum wins.

Wait, why are you still on Xatres? We've moved on. Get with the program.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Does anyone else find the timing of OS's Raziek case amusing? (As I had JUST called him out on the Raziek wagon being bad?)

Now I need to reanalyze stuff again and see if this should change my read. :/

 

[Overswarm]

Oh, and for those going for Boat? You do realize there hasn't been a coherent case on Boat all game and that Boat hasn't done anything all game, meaning that at the very best we have a completely non-manipulative scum player or an inactive townie who may or may not be a power role, and someone that we can simply have the mod kill overnight?

Everyone's voting for Boat by saying "But he's USELESS"

Which isn't a reason


or


They vote for him because "he wasn't there for the Circus wagon"

which Raziek defended him from, telling them tehy were playing Monster Hunter together

which they were

unless they're scum together

that is the only way they can lie

in which case a raziek lynch is still fine

vote Raziek







Personally I'd rather see Inferno dead.

But you know what?

I'll go for a Raziek lynch because we don't have as much time. Easier to finish off.

 

[Overswarm]

Does anyone else find the timing of OS's Raziek case amusing? (As I had JUST called him out on the Raziek wagon being bad?)

Now I need to reanalyze stuff again and see if this should change my read. :/

Even when we're both town I'm in your head

Ignore this for this game, but for future reference you're still easy to direct to someone else simply by making a suggestive case. Strong cases work too, but suggestive cases work well not because they make you think you're wrong about your previous case, but that you might have overlooked something so it makes you re-evaluate. Re-evaluate your original case in these situations to determine if it's a good one, THEN potentially move on while keeping it on the back burner rather than changing lanes on the train.

vote Raziek

 

[Nicholas1024]

@OS
By that logic, PLSD-scum would have never gotten lynched in Time Travelers. As I've said before, Boat's not the perfect lynch, but if there's nothing better available I have no qualms in getting rid of that particular borderline-scummy question mark.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

OS, explicitly avoiding contribution while posting (also known as fake contribution), combined with the connections circus made with him makes him plenty scummy. Not every case needs to be 5 pages long.


Raziek saying he was playing monster hunter tri with him is only a scumtell if you can prove he wasn't, but i find their scum connection extremely unlikely which makes me inclined to believe him.

stuff

So why did FF START the no lynch push?

stuff

OS lynch isn't gonna happen, there's no support behind it.


OS is being watched regardless, no worries.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Vote: Raziek

I mean, I wasn't here, and I haven't finished reading. But that's a convincing case, and meshes with what I already thought. Let's see him go.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Overswarm is town.

If we're that unsure of my slot--because I'm been one lazy mother****er, we could lynch me and I could execute Raziek?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Uh, empty post okay then

@Nich: Why is FF cleared?
@Anyone: Why is AB cleared?

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

Vote: Raziek

I mean, I wasn't here, and I haven't finished reading. But that's a convincing case, and meshes with what I already thought. Let's see him go.

Why?

@Anyone: Why is AB cleared?

l'm not, OS and Xatres seem to think I am because of the color shennanigens because of a miscommunication in the rules when I claimed, I included color and people assumed it would be impossible for me to know without being town.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Why?

"that's a convincing case, and meshes with what I already thought"

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

No, i mean what specifically is convincing in the case and meshes with your previous thoughts?

 

[Overswarm]

If I AB was scum I wouldn't even care about losing because it'd mean the mod messed up, not us. AB should have been modkilled for breaking the rules and wasn't; he KNEW the color of "town" was purple, and that town was Maverick. He only knew this because it was in his role PM.

Someone contacted the mod before the game started and AFTER PMs were out to tell him he needed to make a rule about not being able to say colors. Because there wasn't a correct role PM that showed colors. There's no reason for the mod to add that rule unless mafia didn't KNOW the colors, which AB did, thus clearing him.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

OS' case is convincing. The whole thing, in full. OS suggests Circus/Raziek and details Raz' voting patterns and the way Raz seemed to take credit late in the day.

What I already thought:

I originally thought Raz was town, because his summary of the thread came quick and easy -- he didn't take time, he just shot out his interpretation of the events. It suggested to me that Raz was in a town mindset as well, because his summary was of interactions between players, while Inferno's dealt with the big events and things like mod-related stuff, which coupled with his not having any scumreads made me think he didn't have his mind on scumhunting at all.

As I read through the thread however, I find myself put off by a few of Raz's posts. You could just as easily form an argument where Raz is paying attention because he needs to know interactions so he knows how to play the thread, who to play against who, and so on. And outside of a context where the only choices are Raz and Inferno, contrasting the two falls flat. On its own I can't call Raz's summary a towntell like I thought I could.

So it's pretty easy to see how it meshes with what I already thought.

 

[Overswarm]

Hey dabuz! Join some mafia games! You could even replace in Xatres slot if you wanted.


vote Raziek

Nabe has had experience being scum with me by the way. You guys can feel free to pick his brain tomorrow about me if you want.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

If I AB was scum I wouldn't even care about losing because it'd mean the mod messed up, not us. AB should have been modkilled for breaking the rules and wasn't; he KNEW the color of "town" was purple, and that town was Maverick. He only knew this because it was in his role PM.

Someone contacted the mod before the game started and AFTER PMs were out to tell him he needed to make a rule about not being able to say colors. Because there wasn't a correct role PM that showed colors. There's no reason for the mod to add that rule unless mafia didn't KNOW the colors, which AB did, thus clearing him.

Well, that sounds legit to me.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe has had experience being scum with me by the way. You guys can feel free to pick his brain tomorrow about me if you want.

 

[Overswarm]

@mod request votecount

vote: raziek

 

[Gova]

1. Inferno3044 ()
2. JTB ()
3. Overswarm (2) Xatres, Nich
4. Red Ryu ()
6. Analytical Buttheads ()
7. Rajam ()
8. Nicholas1024
9. Xatres (1) Tery
10. Terywj ()
11. Raziek (5) Boat, JTB, RR, OS, Nabe
12. Boatchouli (2) Raziek, Inferno
13. Frozenflame751 ()

Not voting - AB, FF

With 12 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is September 30th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

 

[Overswarm]

Raziek is at L-1.

Raziek, claim.







Oh wait he did. VT.


Inferno, you'd look pretty town if you hammered. Just saying. Nich could hammer to end the day too.


@mod you have Inferno as voting and not voting.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

If I AB was scum I wouldn't even care about losing because it'd mean the mod messed up, not us. AB should have been modkilled for breaking the rules and wasn't; he KNEW the color of "town" was purple, and that town was Maverick. He only knew this because it was in his role PM.

Someone contacted the mod before the game started and AFTER PMs were out to tell him he needed to make a rule about not being able to say colors. Because there wasn't a correct role PM that showed colors. There's no reason for the mod to add that rule unless mafia didn't KNOW the colors, which AB did, thus clearing him.

The issue with that reason is that J took a similar tact in Resident Evil mafia, granted it was well after most of the day was consumed by the discussion even though colors were included in scum role PMs as well. It could've been pre-emptive in order to quash the discussion before it even happened.


Maverick was in the sample role pm.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

@mod: 5 on raz, not 6.

 

[Overswarm]

Nich vote for Raziek now. vote: raziek


Inferno, hammer.

 

[Overswarm]

@mod request last minute prod on Xatres please. -_-;; hopefully he checks

 

[Gova]

@mod you have Inferno as voting and not voting.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

A little more then 5 hours left


Os your case requires 2 people to change, one of who said they'd never vote for raz. Boat has always been a back-burner scum choice and can be done with an active player to spare.


Boat is the play

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

Or reasonably active in jtb's case.

 

[Gova]

Xatres has been prodded.

 

[Overswarm]

A little more then 5 hours left


Os your case requires 2 people to change, one of who said they'd never vote for raz. Boat has always been a back-burner scum choice and can be done with an active player to spare.


Boat is the play

Use your ****ing head. Is this Gheb or Adumb?

Raziek is the play.

 

[Overswarm]

Nich was viewing, now he's not.

Nich, your vote needs to move on over to Raziek.

 

[Overswarm]