Mega Man's Super Glide Toss

[MastaEddieV]

Link has one( though it doesnt go as far), as well as mewtwo which goes even farther than megaman's

 

[dettadeus]

As a game, Smash 4 has introduced a few new advanced techniques. One, called the "Jump Cancel Glide Toss," is a tech that acts similarly to Brawl's glide toss.

the jump cancel glide toss was in brawl. it worked exactly the same as it does in smash4. many characters even had better jump cancel tosses than glide tosses, especially those whose glide toss effectively didn't go anywhere. and on top of that, as many people have already said, the inputs in the video show that this isn't even a jump cancel item toss, lol.

 

[Marigi174]

the jump cancel glide toss was in brawl. it worked exactly the same as it does in smash4. many characters even had better jump cancel tosses than glide tosses, especially those whose glide toss effectively didn't go anywhere. and on top of that, as many people have already said, the inputs in the video show that this isn't even a jump cancel item toss, lol.

It is. Its just that you need the jump mapped to one of the shoulder buttons to do it reliably.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

You people wanted wavedashing....

You got something better.

Megaman is moving on up

 

[Ookami Hajime]

This does not help Megaman that much.

I wish it did, but MM is still just a beautiful mid-tier.

This helps MM a lot and he's high tier lol

 

[Siledh]

This helps MM a lot and he's high tier lol

It really does. It allows for tilts and smashes whilst approaching. No need to worry about dash attacks. It is a really strong movement option for anyone who can use it.


Anyone know how Mewtwo has it? He has no holdable projectiles or does his Shadowball count?

 

[Jon_14]

It really does. It allows for tilts and smashes whilst approaching. No need to worry about dash attacks. It is a really strong movement option for anyone who can use it.


Anyone know how Mewtwo has it? He has no holdable projectiles or does his Shadowball count?

For some characters it doesn't matter if they have a holdable projectile or not. Characters like Ike and Greninja can pull off this tech as well.

 

[extremechiton]

Thats more like a grab cancel glide toss.
Or perhaps a toss cancel glide toss.

 

[Protom]

He slid like half of FD.. Damn..

 

[Deckete]

Can anyone tell me if the Peach can do that too?

 

[TGT | Ghosty]

Too late, Ike and Shulk do it better. =P

Just, situational for them xD

Ike's timing is crazy easy.

It requires the use of items thought, right? Megaman, and Diddy can create items and that's why it's useful. For other characters, they'd need to steal items from the rest of the cast

 

[Dumbfire]

There are numerous possible imputs -- you cancel a dash throw with an uthrow, that's all. The old DACUS input is the most commonly used but you can do it with all kinds of buttons and control schemes.

 

[Crawfish]

You people wanted wavedashing....

You got something better.

this isn't better. it's something that can only be done while holding an item and you can only move forward with it. and from the looks of it, it helps certain characters far more than others.
it's cool, for sure, but it is not better than wavedashing at all imo

 

[Siledh]

For some characters it doesn't matter if they have a holdable projectile or not. Characters like Ike and Greninja can pull off this tech as well.

Really? Is it the same input though as this tech requires an item toss input? I mean, the effect might be the same, even if the input isn't. I'm just curious as to how it works.

 

[Iceweasel]

... ScAtt's gonna **** me with this at the next monthly, isn't he?

 

[busken]

No, it's not.


This isn't a "jc glidetoss" (which isnt even a thing since you can't jc a glidetoss). It is a dashing item toss cancelled item toss.

Glidetoss: Cancelling a roll into a standing item toss in any direction

JC item toss: Cancelling your dash/run into a jump, then cancelling the jump with a standing item toss in any direction

DACIT: Cancelling a dash attack into an item toss

DACUS (I cant believe I have to clarify this): Cancelling a dash attack into an USmash

This: cancelling a dashing item toss into a standing item toss upwards

Get it right people.

Which one has the most range? Can you DACIT in smash 4?

 

[Starlightstream]

This is actually pretty interesting. I can see this going into a player's play style easily. Great follow ups and movement.

 

[FooltheFlames]

It's hard to say who's better, Megaman or Pacman?

 

[Deleted member]

You people wanted wavedashing....

You got something better.

Oh boy just you wait. Nintendo be rollin' out dem patches

 

[Siledh]

Why is everyone assuming it will be patched out when it's been in the game since Brawl and has been well known amongst Link players for a while now? It's not like this tech is new. I'm sure Nintendo have known about it for a long time.

 

[Darklink401]

It requires the use of items thought, right? Megaman, and Diddy can create items and that's why it's useful. For other characters, they'd need to steal items from the rest of the cast

Good in those MUs tho~

 

[Jmcpappy]

You people wanted wavedashing....

You got something better.

I assume you're joking, because this is obviously a terrible substitute to wavedash, and had few real applications. After all, it's easy to evade, and cannot be used in a true combo...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I assume you're joking, because this is obviously a terrible substitute to wavedash, and had few real applications. After all, it's easy to evade, and cannot be used in a true combo...

I said I was joking earlier...

 

[TheMisterManGuy]

As Nintendo patches this out because they don't like advanced techniques.

Seriously though, this is pretty huge.

Care to name some AT that were patched?

 

[Claire Diviner]

Care to name some AT that were patched?

Wasn't there that lag canceling with item throws that Link could benefit from?

 

[infiniteV115]

This is not 'new', and it wasn't 'introduced' by S4. Roll-cancelling glide tosses, jump-cancelling glide tosses and dash attack-cancelling item tosses were all in Brawl.

 

[Team Plasma N]

Using a 3DS XL, tried it with Megaman, got no results. Tried it with Link, and success! The Link gods have blessed us with another AT :D! Inb4 patch .

 

[SchAlternate]

Further proof that Metal Blades are still awesome after over two decades.

 

[Camalange]

As a game, Smash 4 has introduced a few new advanced techniques. One, called the "Jump Cancel Glide Toss," is a tech that acts similarly to Brawl's glide toss. Both can make characters slide by inputting an action while throwing an item, but as opposed to Brawl where a roll was canceled into an item throw, it's instead canceled from a jump.

We all know this was in Brawl too, right?

… Right?

Brawl had Glide Tossing and Jump Canceled Item Toss.

 

[Pabmyster]

You people wanted wavedashing....

You got something better.

Uhhh... You have to have a throwable item and can only go in one direction, plus it's not even incremental, and it's utility varies depending on character.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Uhhh... You have to have a throwable item and can only go in one direction, plus it's not even incremental, and it's utility varies depending on character.

I said I was joking earlier...

Read the whole gosh darn thread please.

 

[epic11]

megaman has glide toss? better nerf greninja

 

[Maple42]

Is there a way to do this without a c-stick? ; w ;
EDIT: Whoops, nevermind!

 

[Solutionme]

If only it was easier to pull off. MM definitely benefits the most, but I severally doubt this will be a game changer towards his viability.



Mega Man gets the best names on everything. I love not having to use the terms N/B/S/D/U Smash/Air/Tilt/Grab all the time.

Also Boost Bomb. lol

You're not wrong there, boosting with his absurd bomb that never seems to actually go off, but imo this is probably gonna help link the most since he could just set up stage control with bombs that bounce off the shield so it becomes either an approach option of a defense option, which through conditioning with projectiles would not be surprising.

 

[MarioMeteor]

This + Hyper Bombs = Mayhem

 

[~Burst~]

Wish you guys wouldn't pick and choose tech to display as the new flavor of the month. Get ready for everyone to use megaman for this only.
Not only that but since its going to be main stream it will most definitely be patched by nintendo when lucas is released.
Thanks SB!

 

[HyLeN]

Reminiscent of metaknights glide tossing in brawl... megaman definitely gains a lot from this.

 

[Blue24]

To give an example of its situational uses. Zucco uses it to gimp DK at 0:16 Mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAWMv4UwMTY&feature=youtu.be

 

[Siledh]

Care to name some AT that were patched?

They've removed the DACUS and Link's Jab Cancel in various patches, so many of us feel the DACIT or JCT will get patched out if Sakurai gets wind of it. Which might be likely now that every Mega Man under the sun is going to to attempt it.

Uhhh... You have to have a throwable item and can only go in one direction, plus it's not even incremental, and it's utility varies depending on character.

Perhaps, but you can turn around and carry on the glide in one direction whilst facing the other. So it does have some defensive properties as well. Not that that makes it anything like wavedashing, but at least you can defend or attack with it.