MDL0 files from Non-Brawl games

[b2j135]

Sad news guys it looks like Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing doesn't use MDL0...the chracters are located in Resources/Racers/*charactersnamehere*.sif and *charactersnamehere*.sig (probably the all star mode models and effects). Well I guess we can work with what we have in M&S@tOWG for now until Kryal finishes the importer. I'll upload a picture of WiiScrubber in a sec.

Edit: uhh what's the best screen capture software?

 

[AMKalmar]

Well, I didn't know bitmaps could do that.

png vs bmp with alpha channel deleted. Very sneaky.

YOU WIIIIIN!!

 

[piggybank67]

Sad news guys it looks like Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing doesn't use MDL0...the chracters are located in Resources/Racers/*charactersnamehere*.sif and *charactersnamehere*.sig (probably the all star mode models and effects). Well I guess we can work with what we have in M&S@tOWG for now until Kryal finishes the importer. I'll upload a picture of WiiScrubber in a sec.

Edit: uhh what's the best screen capture software?

could u PM me a link for the "U KNOW" :D

 

[Segtendo]

Sad news guys it looks like Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing doesn't use MDL0...the chracters are located in Resources/Racers/*charactersnamehere*.sif and *charactersnamehere*.sig (probably the all star mode models and effects). Well I guess we can work with what we have in M&S@tOWG for now until Kryal finishes the importer. I'll upload a picture of WiiScrubber in a sec.

Edit: uhh what's the best screen capture software?

A picture of your computer desktop? Just Print Screen it.

 

[b2j135]

So yeah...gotta wait now I guess, man I really wanted to view that Super Shadow model

 

[joshl94]

i need help
i used fortwaffles mdl0 poly,mat,header,resizer fixer programs so i can make ryu
all of the programs worked fine except the resizer. when ever i use it its just a small black box and then it says not responding.
then i tried a naruto model and it worked fine.
Does the mdl0 resizer just not work on tatsunoko vs capcom models?

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

Apparently not, joshl94. Sucks.

 

[Wacka Alpaca]

Hey again everyone!
I made a video tutorial for the auto hexer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv_iGKCcbYo

please add it to the OP so people who might have troubles can visually see what to do.

Also, when i try to run the RESIZER, it freezes or something and goes to "Not responding"
whats up?

 

[kangaroogreen]

GAH! how come when I do the alpha layer BMP thing on bowser jr it works but when I save it and look at it again it goes back to normal. Please help

 

[Smash Bro]

Alright, Wacka! Thanks for making another one of your excellent tutorials. I'll be checking that out soon.

Now...Blaziken's SpecularDh texture's pretty...interesting. This texture affects the model's darkness level. I've been trying to lighten it ever so slightly, and I think I finally found a good level of darkness...for most stages. It looks fine on Pokemon Stadium 2 and almost all other stages, but it's too dark on Pirate Ship and wayy too light on Battlefield.

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

I figured out how to hex the headers of M&SatOWG's CHR0's. This makes the animations show up in BrawlBox when used with the model previewer.

Whee!

There's probably other stuff that needs to be done before the animations are fully Brawl-compatible, but so far my process seems to work. The resulting animations work with all three model sizes, except for the facial animations -- they don't work with the Small models because their faces don't have any bones to animate.

amy! omg Amy Rose was win in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, I call her to be banned cause of time stop and the AoE :D

I never pick check points, kill Opponent and time stop them she is pure win

also...

Can you pm me the instructions on how you made the animation in that picture, I mean, the picture is moving!!! I need to know how to do that for future stuff I would like to post

plz send me a pm stoney

 

[InTrepidCognito]

GAH! Even with this new fancy way of importing Brawl models, I just CANNOT get my Balloon Fighter to work. It comes in one BRRES with the rest of the data for the microgame for it on WarioWare: Smooth Moves, which is Balloon Trip (I think it's a minigame you unlock and try to get a high score on, if you've ever played WW:SM). I tried removing all models except for BalloonFight_Char_Model.mdl0 and doing the automated hex fixer by FortWaffles, and... nothing. I can open it up and view the Materials, Bones, etc. but it still just shows the bones on model viewer. If someone can help me, please PM me, and sorry for the wall.

 

[Leo Kitsune]

*die image die*

So yeah...gotta wait now I guess, man I really wanted to view that Super Shadow model

Did you check and see if they weren't just compressed files with MDL0 within or some crazy stuff like that?

 

[Shadowbolt]

^
Would you really want to use the Balloon Fighter model from Smooth Moves, though?

 

[InTrepidCognito]

^
Would you really want to use the Balloon Fighter model from Smooth Moves, though?

What else would I use? :-/

 

[L-a-t-e-r-a-l-u-s]

Is there any .lz converter or something to get models from it? I'm trying to extract the models from Final Fantasy III DS for papercrafting purposes...

 

[DahremRuhar]

Yeah, use gbalzss. I think thats what its called. Its a little difficult to get models from Final Fantasy 3 though. If you can't figure it out, pm me.

 

[L-a-t-e-r-a-l-u-s]

Yeah, use gbalzss. I think thats what its called. Its a little difficult to get models from Final Fantasy 3 though. If you can't figure it out, pm me.

I'll give it a shot.

Spoiler

If I successfully obtain the models, would you like them?

I'll probably try this out tomorrow. TF2 is calling.

 

[Shadowbolt]

What else would I use? :-/

Aside from editing the Smooth Moves model to look more like we'd expect, I have no idea. By that point, you might as well just edit Mario.

 

[InTrepidCognito]

The WarioWare model actually looks pretty nice. Very polished and 3D, which is weird. I'd just have to work on the texture, but that's mah specialty.

 

[digiholic]

Apparently not, joshl94. Sucks.

I got Volnutt to scale with Fortwaffles' program just fine, so at least some TvC models work.

 

[joshl94]

do you think you could try ryu for me if your not to busy?
i just want to make sure

 

[Stoney]

Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes W says "hi". It's a port of the PS2 version to the Wii, and it has MDL0s. However, I have revised the statement on the first post (and highlighted Pokémon Battle Revolution so that we won't have more people asking if it has MDL0s or not).

Kamen Rider W is the exception, not the rule. I have looked at a LOT of ports, and games that use ported data, over the past month. I did not come to this conclusion lightly.

Ports that DO NOT have MDL0s:
Bully Scholarship Edition
Dead Rising: Chop 'Till You Drop
FFCC Echoes of Time
Okami
Pikmin 1
Pikmin 2
Sam & Max: Season One
Sonic Unleashed
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed

That's just from the OP, there are probably other ports I don't own that would also confirm this. Most developers porting something to the Wii just modify their original files to work on the Wii, rather than rebuild assets using Nintendo's Wii formats. It saves the developers both time and money to do things this way, and it makes even more sense if the port comes years after the original game was made, when original raw data files have been lost or deleted (see: Okami).

...But anyway, thanks for refining the OP. Any changes that prevent more people from asking in this thread about whether games we've covered use MDL0s are good changes in my book.

Amy's missing something, if you know what I mean

I'm afraid I don't. Care to elaborate?

*Wiiscrubber pic*

So yeah...gotta wait now I guess, man I really wanted to view that Super Shadow model

Just because the file has an odd extension on the end doesn't mean it cannot contain MDL0s; there's a small chance it might be a new form of compressed file. Try opening one of the files in a hex editor and searching for the following hex values:

"4D444C30" (MDL0, models)
"43485230" (CHR0, animations)
"54455830" (TEX0, textures)
"504143" (PAC, archives)
"4252524553" (BRRES, archives)

If any of those searches gets a result, we'll know there's something in there we can work with. Then it'll just be a matter of unpacking that file format to get at what's inside.

 

[Emeril127]

has anyone tried to see if that one ninja turtles wii game has MDL0's? Cause i would love to put Raphael on brawl

 

[Senjen]

has anyone tried to see if the WiiWare game that just got released 3 days ago, GhostSlayer is in MDLO format? the stages look interesting, even some of the creepy looking bosses would be cool to put into brawl for lets say Simon Belmont to fight against or Leon Kennedy ...

 

[InTrepidCognito]

has anyone tried to see if that one ninja turtles wii game has MDL0's? Cause i would love to put Raphael on brawl

It doesn't use the same format of MDL0s if I remember correctly.

...Can anyone help me with my problem, please?

 

[-BigSharkZ-]

I give up, WWPacker isn't working. I'll just ask someone to get the files I want for me.

 

[OizenX]

duz pokeymon batle rev hav mdl0's?

 

[InTrepidCognito]

duz pokeymon batle rev hav mdl0's?

That's so not funny it's funny.

 

[b2j135]

Just because the file has an odd extension on the end doesn't mean it cannot contain MDL0s; there's a small chance it might be a new form of compressed file. Try opening one of the files in a hex editor and searching for the following hex values:

"4D444C30" (MDL0, models)
"43485230" (CHR0, animations)
"54455830" (TEX0, textures)
"504143" (PAC, archives)
"4252524553" (BRRES, archives)

If any of those searches gets a result, we'll know there's something in there we can work with. Then it'll just be a matter of unpacking that file format to get at what's inside.

No dice, nothing comes up in Shadow.sif or Shadow.sig, I used HxD if anyone cares.

 

[shock44]

No dice, nothing comes up in Shadow.sif or Shadow.sig, I used HxD if anyone cares.

Well that sucks.

 

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[dxrkn3ss]

... though. I can send you her FPK file (which has all of her resources inside of it for Ice Skating) and show you how I hexed the animations so that anyone in your group can do it.

You know sending me the finished result would be good, but if you're offering to show me how to hex them myself, then that works. It is only me on my team so I guess Ill be doing a lot of hexing myself, but it will be worth it in the end.

 

[InTrepidCognito]

GAH! Even with this new fancy way of importing Brawl models, I just CANNOT get my Balloon Fighter to work. It comes in one BRRES with the rest of the data for the microgame for it on WarioWare: Smooth Moves, which is Balloon Trip (I think it's a minigame you unlock and try to get a high score on, if you've ever played WW:SM). I tried removing all models except for BalloonFight_Char_Model.mdl0 and doing the automated hex fixer by FortWaffles, and... nothing. I can open it up and view the Materials, Bones, etc. but it still just shows the bones on model viewer. If someone can help me, please PM me, and sorry for the wall.

Just reposting this...

 

[OizenX]

Add this to the list of games that do not have mdl0
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (.AAR)

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

reposting since I got ignored

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9664770&postcount=2811

will do again, so plz, answer, anyone can help me with that?

 

[InTrepidCognito]

Google "gif" -_-

 

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[Samemind]

I can confirm Episode 2 does. Now what are the odds of Ep1 having MDL0? Immensely low.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

Alright, Wacka! Thanks for making another one of your excellent tutorials. I'll be checking that out soon.

Now...Blaziken's SpecularDh texture's pretty...interesting. This texture affects the model's darkness level. I've been trying to lighten it ever so slightly, and I think I finally found a good level of darkness...for most stages. It looks fine on Pokemon Stadium 2 and almost all other stages, but it's too dark on Pirate Ship and wayy too light on Battlefield.

Whoa whoa whoa, are those his animations? D:

Let me haaaalp.