Mass Effect (King Maker) - Glorious Way to End the Day. Mafia Wins!

[Jdietz43]

JD has a town read on a hydra involving J ?

This is more interesting than most of D1

Lol. It probably helps a ton that J has so far only posted a picture to my knowledge, I like Circus.

Catching up on my reading now.

 

[Jdietz43]

I'll reserve passing judgement on the latest Soup v Jerkus contributions until Jerkus follows up going "HAM" so I can see if it's solid or not. (Though at this point if it was purely between Jerkus and Soup I'd still honestly prefer Soup went if this is going to be a thing every day from now on)

 

[Jdietz43]

In the meantime: DB how do you feel about both Gheb and Bardull's position on Soup?

 

[Handorin]

The Soup in my stomach still isn't sitting right. I'll tell you why right after our brief message, brought to you by Soup himself!

Why are you taking AtE into a huge factor instead of looking at the substance of the posts? I will not stand for getting called for AtE without someone actually looking at the arguments I've presented.

This is a down right lie. The general substance of all his posts today doesn't exist. It's all hot air AtE, useless fluff, or whatever you want to call it. And generally, when he starts to say something half way decent, he follows it with another batch of crap. I can make the most delicious Coconut cake in the world (and it is indeed most delicious, Soup. Don't be a hater. That was a horrible analogy), and it can look beautiful and delicious, but if it has scum in it, it's still scum and horrible. All soup is doing is flailing around and distracting us from his scum buddies. Where are these posts, you might ask? Well, I've categorized them all for you, nice and neat. I even counted them up! I gave partial credit (putting them in both categories), signified by .1 increments when he mixed his posts up with some garbage.

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Refer to my recent post and my ramblings in the prior day. I still feel Kary is the right decision and I'm willing to back Hando into that along with Bardull based on how he's treated me and this game so far. What sterns from legitimate laziness and tatical lurking on his part is beyond me, but he's clearly here to rant and rave about me all he wants. I don't even care what it is at this point. His attitude bothers me.



Going to have to disagree as I'm patiently waiting for Bardull to give some legitimate regarding his read on me and most importantly I think he's blowing smoke about it. I've already covered JD.



Don't care about them. Talk to me later in the game about it, what's bothering you so much about their play that you would go for them over Kary/Hando?

Not much to detail about as he's been huffing and puffing about me being scum yet he hasn't given the goods to say and he certainly hasn't read the thread. A bit more of a explanation in my prior post.

In a perfect world, everyone plays the same and nobody ever disagrees. I don't understand why i'm a 'liability' or anyone else for that matter is and why you're so adamant about lynching them despite not having a factual argument.

Bardull is a liability. He hasn't posted or stayed on topic with the game. His activity is sparse as is his reads. Do you want to lynch him?
Hando is being a liability. He hasn't posted or stayed on topic with the game. His activity is sparse as is his reads. Do you want to lynch him?
Kary is being a liability. He hasn't posted or stayed on topic with the game. His activity is sparse as is his reads. Do you want to lynch him?

What's the argument on why lynching a liability is better than lynching a scumread? Don't snuff your nose at me either.

'less influence'

Glad you popped up to show your ugly head because not only is your statement wrong but it's also baseless and pulled right out of your ***. If you read yesterday (you still haven't read anything!) then you would realize that I put way more meat to who I want and secondly you're assuming that every player that falls under your category of 'less influence' is town. What is your read on Kary? What is your read on Hando? Why does it matter how much influence they have to the game? Why is this a defining argument against me? You're going to have to try better than this because I'm not dealing with you coming in here and trying to pretend you have something on me. I gave Jerkus a longer leash about it as I felt it wasn't the same instance as you because guess what? not all players are the same. Don't come in here and say you define what is scummy and what isn't because if you're going to set down a law you have to give a reasoning behind it.

Dismissed.

You sure proved me wrong

Let me know when you want to play mafia instead of making idle comments and trying to base my intentions on poor meta which you haven't even elaborated on. Let me know when 'being too aggressive' is a defining argument and AtE is a hyperbole of scum achievement. I'm literally just trying to get you to play the game at this point and all you do is try and pretend that my arguments aren't worth delving into and you can write them off with technological mafia terms and shallow level feelings. You're in D2 of a 1000+ game with plenty of posts by me. It's time to ****ing step up or get shot down.

I will go off on you like I went off on JDietz so think about what you respond with.

They're not legitimate at all and you need to understand that i'm trying to get you to respond to me sufficiently instead of playing this stupid game with you. You can act all you want about my attitude but that won't change a damn thing. You cannot just treat me as someone you don't have to respond to and play it off like I'm trying to undermine you. I have nothing to undermine as you're still playing shallow with me, you haven't made a presentable argument yet. Am I a newbie game? You gonna keep doing this because maybe I should just start reading you like I read players like Badwolf.

Let me show you it's done.



Why are you avoiding my confrontation? I am trying to progress a read on you and I would believe that gauging a read on me as well would be important to you. Instead you're trying to push me aside and hope your arguments stick. I'm right here! Enlighten me!



Actually I'm pretty sure I've considered you being Dumbtown on multiple occasions but I won't stand for what you're giving me right now. You're clearly here and clearly responding. I've pointed out why your current basis on me is wrong and you have done nothing to prove me otherwise. You haven't even responded to me! You keep building yourself up by trying to think you can just deteroriate what I've said and literally go "idk guys you guys decide im not sure on my own scumread anymore whoops wheres my townlogic haha forgot that at home."



Pretty sure I've beaten you down on multiple occasions and you're struggling to keep what you say legitimate by trying to ignore my points in the first place. You can't do this and you can't do it with me. I don't care who you are but the least you can do is try and pretend that you're competent enough to read words. Yeah. I am undermining you, but do you know why? possibly? maybe? No? Then allow me to contain my frustration and just laugh at the fact you think what you're doing is legitimate or even substantial. Need I go on? Need I continue this slaughter for all to see? I don't want to and frankly It's not my goddamn job either. I really hope I don't have to do this again with you.

Another stupid ****ing wall to reply to regarding me. What is it going to take to show you people I'm town? Getting ****ing tired of this.

Maybe I'm someone who likes being town and lynching scum. If I'm dead I clearly can't do anything so frankly I'm not going to just roll over and die. The point regarding flailing is laughable and you can pretend all you want that I'm flailing but an act of flailing requires an intention. I'm trying to get it through your thick ****ing skulls that I'm town so frankly yes I am put my hands up in the air just asking to be read correctly. I'm not Dabuz.

Lmao really I haven't even stated poor me I've had my attitude on proving everyone wrong and on top of the fact you weren't active and here I am just willing to pile out ****

My Body tells me no...But I won't quit.

Let's get back into this damn game once more.



I am tired of this argument and I am tired of having to respond to this. There is no definitive stance here. Why are you taking AtE into a huge factor instead of looking at the substance of the posts? I will not stand for getting called for AtE without someone actually looking at the arguments I've presented. I'm literally seething at the point where trying to keep a cool head seems like an impossible alternative.



No. I don't buy this and I'm going to be intervening here looking at this. You had an obvious opposition to Dabuz and you explained your logic about it, but you just let it happen. You let him get pushed and you had all the free time in the world to push me as much as you wanted. This is not about influence, because if you want to be influental you make yourself heard. My influence is clearly shown and I feel like I'm being thrown a surprise birthday party, and the cake is coconut flavored. You are that person who came into my party and gave me coconut flavored cake. You could have got something else but of course you had to suffice on the worst flavor and you're just expecting me to eat up this putrid ****. That's quite the figure of speech if you think about it but the point I'm trying to get at you're trying to present something against me, make it seem pretty yet you come with nothing. Your arguments are literally at the level of Bardull right now. I don't recall me being your hugest scumread either to be honest and you're playing this love-hate thing with me right now. Am I flailing town? Am I flailing scum? One of your arguments prior was that I was too charismatic to be scum. Does that stick? What changed? You're not telling me anything in this post other than you want to make excuses why you haven't acted on things. I am literally treating you like Bardull right now. Your argument on nobody explaining why is also complete **** because the guy you're suspecting right now was the only one to step up and give some meat to the argument. There's something about you that I haven't disliked this game and I think I have found it. I don't think either of you are blind on details like this and you're going to have to back your claims on why you believe nobody was explaining why they were on Dabuz.



Why did you feel that this was satisfactory? I don't understand your need to let Dabuz roll over and die if you had obvious problems with his execution in the first place. Even then, you still show this attitude towards me that goes from 'well I want to like Soup but...' to 'I don't like Soup but...' Which is it?



Tell J to get the paper bag off of his head and give me a reason why he thinks I'm being dumb. I honestly don't feel my play is something I would call dumb. I sit here and appease to all these people and write all these goddamn walls and I do all this ****ing effort to get shot down with petty ****ing arguments such as "You're AtEing." You want to talk about dumb? That's ****ing dumb. You're gonna come in here on D2 and try and make a scumread based on one intention of AtE? Get the **** out. It's not even about defending myself anymore, and I don't even feel on the defense at this point. I keep putting people into their place and literally it's like everyone collectively rolls their eyes at me. This is tiring as hell but go ahead and show the town why I'm a babbling idiot over your master scum theory on me.

This game is going to break me. I feel like EE right now.

Why do people keep saying I only have AtE? Go look at my substance. Go get a real case. Then let me know when you want to play mafia.

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If you want my post to look more like a usual wall, just keep both of these uncollapsed. If you're going to ignore me anyways, you don't have to look at the comparison.

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I feel even on a Townbuz flip that a Kary execute is just as legitimate as ever. I really want to like JDietz but Kary is going to decide where I truly lean on him. Right now I'm in Agreement of Hando/Kary but I want Kary over hando. I trust that Omni will get **** done and not make this day last 1000 posts again.

I'm literally torn that marshy is dead so early in the game, this scum team is ****ing whack as hell

Refer to my recent post and my ramblings in the prior day. I still feel Kary is the right decision and I'm willing to back Hando into that along with Bardull based on how he's treated me and this game so far. What sterns from legitimate laziness and tatical lurking on his part is beyond me, but he's clearly here to rant and rave about me all he wants. I don't even care what it is at this point. His attitude bothers me.



Going to have to disagree as I'm patiently waiting for Bardull to give some legitimate regarding his read on me and most importantly I think he's blowing smoke about it. I've already covered JD.



Don't care about them. Talk to me later in the game about it, what's bothering you so much about their play that you would go for them over Kary/Hando?

Omni what makes you lean on lurker scum compared to busy town like I would believe he would follow up on his claims eventually even if he's busy. I just find myself in disbelief about it and this isn't about what's genuine and what isn't. I don't buy Bardull's commitment to this game and maybe that's my fault for not giving people enough benefit of the doubt. I still believe I have legitimate points and legitimate concerns just aching to be answered.

What kind of question is this? You made one quick case on Omni and before you know it Omni is king and you haven't lead up on it. What's your thought process this game?

I would love to play it as much as you would. Could always hbc and shoot your scumread. I wouldn't call harm on it as long as the logic is sound.

My Body tells me no...But I won't quit.

Let's get back into this damn game once more.



I am tired of this argument and I am tired of having to respond to this. There is no definitive stance here. Why are you taking AtE into a huge factor instead of looking at the substance of the posts? I will not stand for getting called for AtE without someone actually looking at the arguments I've presented. I'm literally seething at the point where trying to keep a cool head seems like an impossible alternative.



No. I don't buy this and I'm going to be intervening here looking at this. You had an obvious opposition to Dabuz and you explained your logic about it, but you just let it happen. You let him get pushed and you had all the free time in the world to push me as much as you wanted. This is not about influence, because if you want to be influental you make yourself heard. My influence is clearly shown and I feel like I'm being thrown a surprise birthday party, and the cake is coconut flavored. You are that person who came into my party and gave me coconut flavored cake. You could have got something else but of course you had to suffice on the worst flavor and you're just expecting me to eat up this putrid ****. That's quite the figure of speech if you think about it but the point I'm trying to get at you're trying to present something against me, make it seem pretty yet you come with nothing. Your arguments are literally at the level of Bardull right now. I don't recall me being your hugest scumread either to be honest and you're playing this love-hate thing with me right now. Am I flailing town? Am I flailing scum? One of your arguments prior was that I was too charismatic to be scum. Does that stick? What changed? You're not telling me anything in this post other than you want to make excuses why you haven't acted on things. I am literally treating you like Bardull right now. Your argument on nobody explaining why is also complete **** because the guy you're suspecting right now was the only one to step up and give some meat to the argument. There's something about you that I haven't disliked this game and I think I have found it. I don't think either of you are blind on details like this and you're going to have to back your claims on why you believe nobody was explaining why they were on Dabuz.



Why did you feel that this was satisfactory? I don't understand your need to let Dabuz roll over and die if you had obvious problems with his execution in the first place. Even then, you still show this attitude towards me that goes from 'well I want to like Soup but...' to 'I don't like Soup but...' Which is it?



Tell J to get the paper bag off of his head and give me a reason why he thinks I'm being dumb. I honestly don't feel my play is something I would call dumb. I sit here and appease to all these people and write all these goddamn walls and I do all this ****ing effort to get shot down with petty ****ing arguments such as "You're AtEing." You want to talk about dumb? That's ****ing dumb. You're gonna come in here on D2 and try and make a scumread based on one intention of AtE? Get the **** out. It's not even about defending myself anymore, and I don't even feel on the defense at this point. I keep putting people into their place and literally it's like everyone collectively rolls their eyes at me. This is tiring as hell but go ahead and show the town why I'm a babbling idiot over your master scum theory on me.

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So, as you can see, the actually somewhat useful posts toDay are about half of his other posts. I can't bring myself to believe that any townie would resort to such measures to defend themselves or get any case anywhere. It doesn't fit. Someone tell me how Soup is town.


And not that Omni is concerned with this part of the post at all, I'm putting this out there for the rest of you and all future generations:
I disagree with Jerkus. I think Soup is Scum. Omni is his scum buddy. Soup was his biggest scum read yesterDay, never really pushed it despite that, and now he is still not pushing it, even though he has a gun. His play in the area of the play pin has done a 180 with no explanation.


Also, I'm wanting to do a Marshy kill and dabuz wagon analysis, but I'm running out of time now. Hopefully I can get that up by the weekend.

 

[Omni]

hi, hando-who-doesnt-read. i stated specifically that i'd have to reread D1 to see if my thoughts on Soup strengthened or weakened. no action has been taken because i specifically said i wouldnt take action until i was done. actually, i've finished re-rereading the marshy kill dabuz wagon analysis. my lynch pool is pretty solid and im pretty sure im going to shoot scum toDay.

now the people i want to kill i need you guys to actually give me an analysis on what ur thoughts are on the dabuz/marshy flips. because so far no one has dived into this yet and it's a shame that i somehow find time to do it (with the lack of time that i already have) and no one else has yet

to answer your question, Gheb/Hando: definitely not shooting Soup toDay.

 

[Death Bear]

who are your targets Omni ?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

If you're not shooting soup then shoot Kary or yourself.

.059:

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Noooooooooo~, Arcanine

 

[Handorin]

hi, hando-who-doesnt-read. i stated specifically that i'd have to reread D1 to see if my thoughts on Soup strengthened or weakened. no action has been taken because i specifically said i wouldnt take action until i was done. actually, i've finished re-rereading the marshy kill dabuz wagon analysis. my lynch pool is pretty solid and im pretty sure im going to shoot scum toDay.

now the people i want to kill i need you guys to actually give me an analysis on what ur thoughts are on the dabuz/marshy flips. because so far no one has dived into this yet and it's a shame that i somehow find time to do it (with the lack of time that i already have) and no one else has yet

to answer your question, Gheb/Hando: definitely not shooting Soup toDay.

I have read. That doesn't mean you can't pressure him toDay to validate/dismiss any thoughts that come up while you reread.

Also, +1 toward whom are your reads? Only then can we give you our opinions.

 

[Omni]

are you people crazy?

i'll give my reads last; not for you dissect and then establish your own. as far as i know, im the only one that's completely caught up on the events that surrounding Dabuz/Marshy and how their flips affect toDay's decisions based off yesterDay's events

you dont need nothing from me until i've established every else's stance on the game thus far.

LEGIT QUESTION: how many of you actually did the reread of yesterDay's events after Dabuz/Marshy flipped town?

 

[Omni]

you've got backbone to be suggesting that u need someone else's position before you can voice your own, Hando. you've been so parked in the rear of this game it's been criminal.

topic of the day: who u want dead based on marshy/dabuz flip and why

 

[Omni]

not answering or dancing around the question will just move you up my "needs to die in this order" list

 

[~ Gheb ~]

LEGIT QUESTION: how many of you actually did the reread of yesterDay's events after Dabuz/Marshy flipped town?

<- this guy did

 

[Jerkus]

Why do you not agree? Do you realize that Bardull disappeared throughout most of Day 1? The beginning consisted mainly of him randomly complaining about stuff and when he came back out of nowhere he was suddenly throwing dirt at me for not "protecting dabuz strongly enough" as if it was within my power or responsibility to do that [not to mention that dabuz' death doesn't bother me and I've made that clear a couple of times]. I also wonder what happened to his push against soup - now that he's no longer under pressure Bardull is nowhere to be seen to push him. I think that's pretty fishy, especially coupled with the fact that Bardull has placed this entire Day phase on his backburner and reduces his input to random claims that BSP is pro-town based on meta. If that's not the kind of case you people want from me then I can't do much more for you.

On D1, despite his disappearance through the middle of the Day, I just remember catching things from him that gave me a town meta read, and he was one of the few people with whom I seemed to share a train of thought on D1. With all the other scum in this game, he's not someone worth pursuing in my mind right now. That could change if he doesn't decide to get in or out of this game sometime soon. I do not consider his "buddying" of BSP scummy. I think it's natural to have a town read on BSP after the way BSP handled D1, and if Scumdull were looking to buddy a townie, BSP doesn't seem like the type of player he would want to go for.

Bardull, to me, is like Dabuz in this instance. He's kind of an easy player for scum to try to position for a mislynch because he tends to just repel people in mafia games and he's not really around much to defend himself or take much of a lead in the game. This also applies to Jdietz. The difference between the two of them and Dabuz right now is that I actually have town leans on both of them.

I will respond to Jerkus when I get home.

Why would you do this? My post wasn't directed toward you. I have not made a case with anything for you to respond to yet. My post was just a response to things DBear seemed to take issue with in regards to me. I was not listing your AtE as a specific reason for why you're scum. My only point on the matter was that I shouldn't have allowed your AtE to sway me away from your lynch on its own. You're being overly defensive. If you're really so exhausted from defending yourself so much, it seems strange that you would go out of your way to basically do nothing but that.

Soup, you know what I've seen you do since D2 started?

-attack everyone who has expressed even mild dislike of your slot as if you think that makes them scum
-boo-hoo over NH's death. My, aren't you a compassionate townie. You and Omni should go hold a candlelit vigil.

What I have not seen you do since D2 started:

-pursue the scumreads you mentioned having at the beginning of the Day. You've cocked your eyebrow at Hando once or twice now, but you haven't given him nearly the tongue lashing that you've already given people like Bardull and Gheb and myself, and he's actually supposed to be scum in your mind.

@Omni: I did, but I think I'll need to do it again. Luckily, I'll get a chance to do that since my afternoon and evening has opened up in a way I didn't expect toDay. Was planning on going back over D1 Soup anyway.

@Mod: Can we get something more specific in regards to what's happening with Kary? Like an estimated time of return or if a replacement is more likely? Indefinite V/LA is a really ****ty thing to deal with because we have nothing to hold Kary to.

Questioning whether or not I actually want to make a proper move on Soup right now or not. The more I think about it, the more lurking Ryker bugs the **** out of me. I'll have a better idea of what I want to do after some more reading, but this is a fair warning that I might totally decide to go back on my promise to rail on Soup if I feel it's not the best use of my time.

 

[Omni]

<- this guy did

The flips don't really change my reads. Soup can die, Kary can die and I think you're scummy too. The only thing that really changed from yesterDay was me becoming more wary of BarDull. The whole SIFOM BS you pulled off against dabuz D1 applies to BarDull as much, easily.

But there are a lot of players I have issues with - the whole Hando vs Mastermind thing is shady because neither slot is leaving a good impression and there's still BSP whom I can't get a town read on. It's all very mucky and I think these players should have a lot more explaining to do for you than I do. I've told you almost everything there is to tell right now, those people haven't taken relevant stances like all game.

ok, this is good stuff. let me ask you some questions based on your kill choice:

1.) what did you think of late D1 Soup and his change in character?
2.) why does Dabuz/Marshy's flip not change your stance? does it do anything to your stance?
3.) Soup jumped on the Dabuz wagon hardcore after me/kary/marshy (4th on the wagon). furthermore, he labeled Soup clearly as scum as his stance. how do you interpret this now that Dabuz has flipped town?
4.) if you still think town is scum, can you please give me a very clear reason as to why yo think this is so

Ok. Vote: Handorin

Never trust doctor doom.

dat breadcrumb.
sry dabuzie bro.
should've spotted this.

 

[Omni]

@Omni: I did, but I think I'll need to do it again. Luckily, I'll get a chance to do that since my afternoon and evening has opened up in a way I didn't expect toDay. Was planning on going back over D1 Soup anyway.

please do. i have several questions to ask of you as well once you're through

 

[BarDulL]

IDK why kingmaker made omni king, but the very fact that omni's not shooting soup irritates me and i don't really understand why he isn't seeing soupascum.

 

[BarDulL]

he's like "defo not shooting soup" but why?????? why even be definite about it when the day isn't over yet? and when soup's massive scum?

sorry omni but we're just never going to be bros this game i guess. the moment soup flips scum is the moment you're going to be executed.

 

[Jerkus]

ok, this is good stuff. let me ask you some questions based on your kill choice:

1.) what did you think of late D1 Soup and his change in character?
2.) why does Dabuz/Marshy's flip not change your stance? does it do anything to your stance?
3.) Soup jumped on the Dabuz wagon hardcore after me/kary/marshy (4th on the wagon). furthermore, he labeled Soup clearly as scum as his stance. how do you interpret this now that Dabuz has flipped town?
4.) if you still think town is scum, can you please give me a very clear reason as to why yo think this is so



dat breadcrumb.
sry dabuzie bro.
should've spotted this.

1.) what did you think of late D1 Soup and his change in character?
2.) why does Dabuz/Marshy's flip not change your stance? does it do anything to your stance?
3.) Soup jumped on the Dabuz wagon hardcore after me/kary/marshy (4th on the wagon). furthermore, he labeled Soup clearly as scum as his stance. how do you interpret this now that Dabuz has flipped town?
4.) if you still think town is scum, can you please give me a very clear reason as to why yo think this is so

4.) if you still think town is scum, can you please give me a very clear reason as to why yo think this is so

4.) if you still think town is scum....

 

[Omni]

Cast list (8 people alive):
BSP
Jdietz
Jerkus
Bardull
Hando
Mastermind
Kary
Soup

BSP you need to speak up immediately. You're not King anymore. I wasn't pleased with your performance yesterDay and I expect much more from you toDay.

Death Bear, I would prefer that you reread D1 and the events that transpired around Dabuz/Marshy and answer my question directed to everyone. You seem to be shooting at the waist at D2 just like you've been kinda' doing at D1. Very aimless and I have a hard time understanding your thoughts on the 1000 questions you pose.

Same applies to JDietz, Bardull, Hando, Jerkus, Soup, and Mastermind.

 

[Omni]

freudian slip. yes, i think soup is town after the reread which is why i said i'm not shooting him. continue on with your business, sweetheart

 

[Omni]

IDK why kingmaker made omni king, but the very fact that omni's not shooting soup irritates me and i don't really understand why he isn't seeing soupascum.

im king cuz king knows im town

he's like "defo not shooting soup" but why?????? why even be definite about it when the day isn't over yet? and when soup's massive scum?

sorry omni but we're just never going to be bros this game i guess. the moment soup flips scum is the moment you're going to be executed.

shut up and go read. i cant be bros with someone who isn't informed with the details of the events that just occurred. you're playing mad lazy. super mad lazy and you know it. step your **** up, read, and then you can come at me with your dislike with clear and detailed facts or points to back it up. no one takes a Bardull threat serious; especially not now

 

[Jerkus]

Sweetheart?

We just stopped being cool.

 

[Death Bear]

read D1 bout 5 times already.
stated opinion

waiting onjerkus ham mode.

not surprised marshy flipped town

 

[Death Bear]

of course im shooting from the hip bcuz so many people are gonzo lol.
we cant just spin a color wheel between Mastermind/kary/BSP or any of the other half inactives and hope to hit scum lol

 

[Omni]

Sweetheart?

We just stopped being cool.

gee golly whiz, look how sad i am.

if u want to push that point as a legit point then tell us now. don't dance around it and see if someone else also wants to take a bite of it before u solidify it. you did a lot of this D1 so i'm not surprised to see it happening toDay.

if u dont, then stop messin around and get up to speed

 

[Omni]

sorry omni but we're just never going to be bros this game i guess. the moment soup flips scum is the moment you're going to be executed.

wifom aside, i would have been bus'd the **** out of Soup if we were scum partners

 

[Jerkus]

Jerkus HAM mode may not be coming. You may have to stick with Canadian bacon, red leaf.

Reading the beginning of D1 and I'm remembering why I didn't mind Soup at first. We'll see how well his schizophrenic switch to Dabuz fairs when I revisit it, but even as I'm going, all I'm thinking is "god, wouldn't it be too ****ing easy if the scum team is RykEEr, Hando and Kary?"

gee golly whiz, look how sad i am.

if u want to push that point as a legit point then tell us now. don't dance around it and see if someone else also wants to take a bite of it before u solidify it. you did a lot of this D1 so i'm not surprised to see it happening toDay.

if u dont, then stop messin around and get up to speed

Nah, you reacted pretty well.

But don't patronize me just because you feel big now.

 

[Death Bear]

as for marhsy / dabuz jerkus involved wit both of em and i aint moving my vote till he makes his "move on soup" as for the rest of the wgon we got v/la kary who we aint getting nothing outta and are better off shooting sooner rather then later cuz no one's gunna replace in with a 40 page D1.

then we got flippy floppy sou who i been half whiteknithing since early D1 , then we got the great disappearing act of mastermind, the curious case of BSP.

the list goes on lol.

 

[Jerkus]

Early D1 also boosts my townread on B-dull like whoa, for the record.

 

[Omni]

Nah, you reacted pretty well.

But don't patronize me just because you feel big now.

what do you expect? i'm channeling the spirit of marshy. you and i? no... there can be no you and i...

 

[Death Bear]

all im left with here is hando who i still dislike but for diff reasons then mastermind that i stated eariler.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

1.) what did you think of late D1 Soup and his change in character?
2.) why does Dabuz/Marshy's flip not change your stance? does it do anything to your stance?
3.) Soup jumped on the Dabuz wagon hardcore after me/kary/marshy (4th on the wagon). furthermore, he labeled Soup clearly as scum as his stance. how do you interpret this now that Dabuz has flipped town?
4.) if you still think town is scum, can you please give me a very clear reason as to why yo think this is so.

1.) It's actually part of why I think he's scum. He's been flailing badly and it's out of character. Furthermore it reminds me of my own scumplay in Disney Singalong mafia and I can see hardly and pro-town intent behind any of that.

2.) Because all it did to me was to confirm that the people on the dabuz wagon didn't truly care about whether he's actually scum or not and just dicked him out on principle. It confirmed to me that marshy was being ******** and his whole "I have a reason to believe he's scum but I won't tell" you was just the kind of BS that I've though it was. I just couldn't tell whether it's dumbtown marshy or scum marshy hiding behind his dumbtown marshy mask. Either way I am glad he's dead because it's ******** to deal with. Dabuz was an expandable townie, which is nothing one could not have expected before his flip and marshy was being dumb which was glaringly obvious to me during all of D1. Why should those flips change my mind more than confirm what I thought to begin with?

3.) I think at that point soup got pretty much tangled up in his spiderweb of lies, contradictions and inconsistent behavior already and tried to break free with insults and AtE nonsense. I think going after dabuz hardbody was his last resort and with you, marshy and others playing like tools he got away with it unfortunately [this is something I still hold against you btw because there was more than enough reason to lynch soup and you yourself said he was scummy. Idgaf if dabuz was expandable or not, when there's a blatant scumbag around you can't pick out the weakling].

4.) Jdietz's case on the whole soup - Kary connection was rather convincing already but the fact that soup suddenly turned around to attack Kary and lump him into a hypothetical scumteam with JD himself made it rather clear to me that soup has to be scum. It just makes so little sense to agree with JD by attacking Kary [after being rather indifferent/friendly to some of Kary's BS] and then act as if JD was trying to build a fake connection between then - soup is doing just the same, after all but a lot less credible. I think soup himself realized soon enough that the way he tried to deflect the entire case back onto JD was too easy to see through so he decided to add dabuz into the equation as a safety net. Especially now that dabuz flipped town it looks so terrible on soup in retrospect. Like, did anybody seriously buy how soup came up with his Kary / JD / dabuz team and think he was *not* full of crap? Dabuz is a confirmed townie, JD essentially exposed soup as scumbag and Kary is his scumbuddy from whom soup is trying to distance himself.

I'm not sure who the third scumbag is but I'm leaning towards you atm.

 

[Death Bear]

gonna pop in here, perfectly fine having Omni shoot kary, kary flips scum we get irrefutable evidence of connections. Kary flips town we learn that Kary plays terrible D1 which i already know is a kary tell.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Meh, some bad wording in that post. Tell me if you don't understand everything, Omni.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Tried do avoid this but by now I seriously feel the need to point out the fact that both of DB's heads are notoriously scatterbrained when it comes to hunt scum. I really don't think any of their opinions should be taken into consideration that much until they prove themselves to actually be of any worth via results. I think their push against Jerkus is meh and not really productive right now and the last sentence of their justification to get Kary shot is dumb and opportunistic - those are the words of a tool.

 

[Death Bear]

and yet, in the end gheb, i was right about you in Disney, i was right about all the scum in utrik'd , i was right about all the scum in BAM.

so my scatterbrainedness is clearly more effective than you give me credit for

 

[Omni]

1.) It's actually part of why I think he's scum. He's been flailing badly and it's out of character. Furthermore it reminds me of my own scumplay in Disney Singalong mafia and I can see hardly and pro-town intent behind any of that.

i see. i know nothing of soup's character or that game, but i'd like to know if anyone else in this game can confirm that Gheb's point is accurate (including you, Soup)

2.) Because all it did to me was to confirm that the people on the dabuz wagon didn't truly care about whether he's actually scum or not and just dicked him out on principle. It confirmed to me that marshy was being ******** and his whole "I have a reason to believe he's scum but I won't tell" you was just the kind of BS that I've though it was. I just couldn't tell whether it's dumbtown marshy or scum marshy hiding behind his dumbtown marshy mask. Either way I am glad he's dead because it's ******** to deal with. Dabuz was an expandable townie, which is nothing one could not have expected before his flip and marshy was being dumb which was glaringly obvious to me during all of D1. Why should those flips change my mind more than confirm what I thought to begin with?

because the premise of marshy/omni/kary scum was that we were on Dabuz hard from the get go. notice how you just told me that you couldn't tell if it was "dumbTown marshy" or "scum marshy hiding"? that is the EXACT reason why i had my vote on Dabuz. and im pretty sure it was marshy's as well. my point here is not to knock down your argument toward me being scummy because i've restated it before but i want u to be aware of how this comes off and why i have a hard time understanding you.

regardless, marshy and dabuz' death should affect your stance more IMO. ill read more to your next answer

3.) I think at that point soup got pretty much tangled up in his spiderweb of lies, contradictions and inconsistent behavior already and tried to break free with insults and AtE nonsense. I think going after dabuz hardbody was his last resort and with you, marshy and others playing like tools he got away with it unfortunately [this is something I still hold against you btw because there was more than enough reason to lynch soup and you yourself said he was scummy. Idgaf if dabuz was expandable or not, when there's a blatant scumbag around you can't pick out the weakling].

before we start, my read wasn't as solid as yours. i thought he smelled a bit, but it was nothing that i'd lynch anyone over. a FoS IGMEOY (which i did both). can you expound more on the tangled up contradictions and lies? i assume you're referring to Soup's back and forth with Kary/Bardull with a side of Jerkus/Jdietz?

4.) Jdietz's case on the whole soup - Kary connection was rather convincing already but the fact that soup suddenly turned around to attack Kary and lump him into a hypothetical scumteam with JD himself made it rather clear to me that soup has to be scum. It just makes so little sense to agree with JD by attacking Kary [after being rather indifferent/friendly to some of Kary's BS] and then act as if JD was trying to build a fake connection between then - soup is doing just the same, after all but a lot less credible. I think soup himself realized soon enough that the way he tried to deflect the entire case back onto JD was too easy to see through so he decided to add dabuz into the equation as a safety net. Especially now that dabuz flipped town it looks so terrible on soup in retrospect. Like, did anybody seriously buy how soup came up with his Kary / JD / dabuz team and think he was *not* full of crap? Dabuz is a confirmed townie, JD essentially exposed soup as scumbag and Kary is his scumbuddy from whom soup is trying to distance himself.

no, i thought he was full of crap early game as well which is why i told him that he smelt funny. hm. okay at the rest of your posts.

I'm not sure who the third scumbag is but I'm leaning towards you atm.

that's fine.

 

[Omni]

gonna pop in here, perfectly fine having Omni shoot kary, kary flips scum we get irrefutable evidence of connections. Kary flips town we learn that Kary plays terrible D1 which i already know is a kary tell.

we're not working with ifs toDay, dbear. scum or bust; no more flips based off information.

Tried do avoid this but by now I seriously feel the need to point out the fact that both of DB's heads are notoriously scatterbrained when it comes to hunt scum. I really don't think any of their opinions should be taken into consideration that much until they prove themselves to actually be of any worth via results. I think their push against Jerkus is meh and not really productive right now and the last sentence of their justification to get Kary shot is dumb and opportunistic - those are the words of a tool.

i dont like how their slot is all over the place either. but i do like his push on Jerkus especially since Marshy is gone. someone needs to be in that ***.

 

[Jerkus]

but i do like his push on Jerkus especially since Marshy is gone. someone needs to be in that ***.

In hindsight (ha), I do wish it were NH. He at least knows how to legitimately get me hot and bothered.