Death Bear
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I also want both your thoughts on bardull right now but that can be secondary
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Respond sufficiently to what I've asked and we can go somewhere. Don't take anything I say as personal. That's my golden rule and I don't have a problem with you outside of the game. Right now I want to ring your neck however.See this is why I can't give you an inch Soup, you always make posts like that offering a handshake and a white flag: then tagging on some remark like you've predicted scum behavior if who you're talking to complies. I just came back from getting dinner ready to say maybe I'd been being too harsh on you and I should cool it, but now if I do that I'll seem like an ****** scumbag no matter what.
There's never any middle ground with you.
Bardull, that's a simple question that won't net anything outside from the common line of thinking.
I'm not too sure how much thought you put into this.
Being King makes you immune to a day lynch and gives you the ability to lynch another person. That's it. A temporary gain of status that can (and most likely) be transferred to another person the next day.
Theoretically speaking all of us can do whatever we want. That doesn't mean we can be any less accountable for own actions and responsible for deciphering other player's actions.
Your logic + odd usage of the term "town" in your statement makes me lean airhead town. Doubt scum would be that wreckless this early into the game.
Vote: Dabuz
How do you feel about my read on you and the reasoning behind it?
Sup. Could I get examples? Bardull's a curious case for me.
Examples of what, sir?
Why Bardull is airhead town compared to scum.
I was referring to Dabuz in those posts. Are you referring to Dabuz or Bardull?
It was about Bardull. I'm not sure why you got mixed up about it in the first place.
[/collapse]Soup, please re-read what I said earlier. I had a single line directed toward, Bardull, but the rest of my post(s) were aimed directly at Dabuz. Thus, I am having a hard time understanding why you quoted a line (that was directed at Dabuz) and you're asking me how this applies to Bardull (which it doesn't).
Don't like any of his posts, really. This might be a personal dislike (not personal personal) but what I feel is scummy is that I don't feel he has direction and he's just posting to post. You might say it's the same as bardull but only that bardull has made definitive stances even if the reasoning behind them is poor. Dabuz has not even done that and would rather play around with the king from what I've observed.
You also ignored this post by me.Soup, again. This is when you were mentioning why you were fine with Dabuz's lynch
Where are you getting stances from? All I grasped from that is that he wasn't fine with Gheb's play so far.
@BSP
Why does what Kary does reside with you? It's not the same problem. Kary has given out some stances at the time and you heve left me with nothing. I'm fine with your explanation however.
[/collapse]Look closely. I've put every post Kary has made so far into this collapse:
I gathered 1 stance out of that. Bardull is trying to hard. Where did you get some from?
Don't mention votes. Kary has made it clear he thinks this is RVS. Where are his stances at?
I've skimmed Kary's post and if anything looking at it I see where I was wrong on it. I don't see any stances and if anything I'm starting to more lean on scum considering the attitude in them. I'm not sure if he's being stubborn as scum tough, but it feels like Nercomafia Kary to say the least. I'll look into it more after I've caught up again. You guys don't stop posting.
Reading Kary again, he's acting weird. I'm sure I had a meta on him before but what I don't like is what Jerkus already elaborated in his earlier post when he voted with Kary.
Kary, you're on a posting high, I read a lot of your posts and they seem really pointless or just add on an earlier point you made, but the fact remains is that this high isn't just because you're pursuing what you want. If anything, It's you clinging to your read yet not putting any effort to substantiate it OR pursue it. Simply put, A lot of it is filler.
Do you still want Dabuz? Why the switch on Death Bear?
[/COLLAPSE]Okay, step by step. We can do this.
First off, Kary
Okay, this is fair only that posts like you coming into the thread to say something "Hey is Dabuz lynched" is not really helping the point. I wouldn't expect this attitude from you and I feel that even if your playstyle is borderline on silly, you're better than that. I could actually give two instances where you've done this before.
You've given your stance of it from your perspective, what else is there to do but wait it out? This almost feels like you're admitting that you had no reason to push Dabuz in the way you did. I'm really worried about you and I want you to explain if your reasoning is also the same on Bardull, which, by the way, you did also.
I think Dabuz even as scum would be aware that you want him if you made it clear. Don't like the bolded, don't understand your need to push something so hard if you weren't ready to the end the day, looking at your early posts I could have sworn you'd be okay with Dabuz getting lynched. Why not?
But they don't deserve the same treatment you gave Bardull and Dabuz? You could say 'oh well he's active' but that's a load of crap if I look at it considering everything that I've said. Your actions don't justify your explanations Kary, I wouldn't have a problem if I didn't think you were lying through your teeth and trying to come with an excuse for your play.
Do you feel your actions had an effect? I certainly didn't. I don't understand how you screaming for a lynch is going to get action out of people, if anything, they'd look at you and why you're hollering and ranting about in the first place. Now tell me what you got out of this since it was more important. You haven't really given me a clear answer compared to earlier how you felt, did something change? Or are you just scum and can't explain yourself willingly? Maybe that's why you try to shut off Bardull so easily, I don't think you'd be one to be that stubborn.
Now this is your proposed scum team. In following, posts, you claim that it all makes sense and that Kary and Dabuz are really obvious. You then tell me that you have this scum team thought out, but your only flip ideas are: scumDabuz, go Kary; scumKary, go Dabuz; if they flip town, I don’t know. I think you’re just looking for the easiest lynch to swing at this point.Vote: Kary
Vote: JDietz43
Vote: Dabuz
Up to that point, No Hetero had done nothing that game besides come in and try to push a Dabuz lynch, yet you find Jdietz more scummy that NH for some reason. This is also a time to point out that you’ve been largely ignoring NH for the most part outside of buddying attempts.I thought Dabuz was scum for the longest time and now I just caught Kary in a bunch of ****
how does it not make sense for one and two how is me not caring about No Hetero suspicious to you
Soup, this simply makes no sense. You’re telling me that Kary is more scummy than Dabuz, but he’s less of a priority. Also, if you really started reading this game, why haven’t you questioned NH about a single meaningful thing? In your big post on Dabuz, you claim that not committing is a big deal of his. Why aren’t you getting on NH about it?Above Dabuz for the moment but not enough where I would put him ahead of priority. Dabuz needs to respond to things and so does Kary, simply put as that. I didn't really notice his play because I was bluntly skimming and that's just really poor on my part. After sitting down and looking at it I was more certain and more aware of my read on Kary for an example. I've had Dabuz scum for a long time.
Now this is important. If you respond/look at anything, look at this.I don't even understand JDietz' reasoning to be so against Dabuz, his reasoning is simply "I don't see it" and it's a load of bull**** because half of this day you've got obvtown hardbodying Dabuz' scum *** into the ground and the other bickering about useless ****.
Lot of profanity in that, did I make my point clear? Why are you asking me about Kary if you're leaning on him right now? Where does it come from? You out three reads that literally have no substantiation and nothing that points towards you leaning towards that logic. You need to be more willing to explain things.
"Even if he isn't scum"? I thought you said it was obvious? Again, you've said Kary is more scummy, but you're going to go with Dabuz first?We get scum and even if he isn't scum Kary becomes more transparent with his contradicting statements towards Dabuz already pointed out by a plethora of people. Why are you being stubborn? A Dabuz lynch is turning into the only thing I would consider, even past Kary. I would settle for Kary still if I had to, however.
And yet, you still ignore No Hetero 100% when you cite non clarified reads and no intent to post anything of merit to look at Dabuz as scum. I’ve taken a look at NH’s game. Outside of claiming that Dabuz needs to die (scum), and having a null on Hando, NH hasn’t put out any stances at the point of time in this post. Other than that, I’ve just seen him attack posts against other players. Yet you were confused when I asked you why he isn’t a scum choice. How is that not a contradiction?Terrible reactions to the wagons, non clarified reads, and no intent to post anything of merit (see: his filler in the beginning of the day) that on top of me thinking he's scum with Kary considering the glaring contradictions towards another I think we pretty much have Game/Set/Match but you keep thinking you need to be above everyone else for some reason
How about you give a reason for why you think Dabuz is town
I think you’re OMGUS’ing JD at this point.This is a J post. How the **** is Bardull the one with his head straight and Gheb is a loon right now. JDietz hasn't even done anything. How are they the ones with their head straight? I'm serious about an answer to that because if you asked me JDietz is out of whack this game and can't even bother to keep up with the game, his attitude towards Dabuz is crap because even if he were against it I would be fine with it until that he has explictly stated that he just think he's null more than anything. I think I remember JDietz leaving a question to someone (I believe Kary or Dabuz) which he didn't even follow up on. Apparently that's sanity now? Are you serious about Bardull? Basically the same thing with JDietz only if you added in a unjustified attitude and unwillingness to listen to others because he sets his own standards so high he just scoffs at the idea of someone not having the same read as him.
Funny how you sight a negligent view on Dabuz from the get go as something bad, even in your case on Dabuz later, you admit that having a null on him from the beginning is not unreasonable.Negligent view on Dabuz from the get-go. Even after a couple of pages he's still pretty confused about it and would rather keep it as null.
Lol, not ready to call the team on D1. Why did you tell me you were confident in your team then? Where are you pulling all of this from?I might look at things a bit differently and go from there. I'm not really out to call the team on D1 but if I do then that's fine with me.
Soup: I'm reading the thread right now and rofl'ing hard at your "callout", I'll respond shortly, but needless to say you need to learn how to read.
PS: I'd give any money Soup and Kary are scumbuddies, you don't flip from not noticing anything wrong with Kary's play, to saying it's suspicious when it starts looking like Kary might be the play, back to chainsaw defense mode when Dabuz is back in session for no reason.
Because literally the only reason to be hardbodying Dabuz (especially at that point of the game) was if you were smoking extra crack or had an ulterior motive to quick lynch him. Your "obvtown" (NH, yourself, Kary, Omni) was literally my scum-list and largely still is. How about backing up some of those "obvtown" claims first before you start preaching.
@Bold: Because he IS null. He's still done nothing but get yelled at by people who are apparently out of their minds for reasons no one can adequately explain. Especially not you.
Link the question.
My posts that soup quoted in blue:
You're still acting like Dabuz has actually DONE something to have an opinion about. The only reason anyone is even talking about him is because Kary decided it was his mission in life to form a vote-conga line on the slot. My opinion here of asking wtf people are talking about is entirely warranted.
Iirc that was pretty much my first bouts of posts in the game, I shortly follow up with Kary on my return as he continues to act strangely despite my leaving of the thread after voting the first time. Which you'll quote below but ignore for some reason.
And why wouldn't I pursue answers from the slots I see pushing hard for no discernible reason, many acting like they actually did (and still do) want a lynch on a null?
As for why there aren't solid conclusions written up to the T, maybe you just conveniently skipped the part where I tell everyone I'm summarizing before I hit the sack and will hope to be back after work tomorrow (aka: right now).
As for why I picked who I picked it shouldn't be hard for anyone to understand: Kary is acting crazy, you're acting crazy about Kary, and NH is just plain being crazy. I didn't have time for a play by play, but it shouldn't have been that hard to figure out from my comment:
why I felt suspicious of both you and NH. Kary should have been common knowledge ever since what you're about to quote and completely refuse to attempt to understand:
...wait for it...
The thing to understand here is: I still wasn't ok with Kary. For a brief moment I thought maybe if I played it off like I was satisfied with what he had said I could glean some beneficial information from it to see into his intent further, but upon further inspection and the realization the only apparent reason he even wanted my friendship in the first place was for another vote on Dabuz I had to cut that short. Especially after he insta-turned on Deathbear just for not going along with the vote, a slot I thought had been doing just fine. It made no sense as town and still doesn't.
Soup: Dabuz doesn't even freaking matter in this equation anymore, he never did as far as I can tell, because no one can give me a reason to actually care about him. What I do care about, and have never stopped caring about, is people who start wagons for no reason and stick to them even after RVS is long long gone, asking for recruits and not substantiating why. (especially when they actually start getting some takers)
I find the fact you're claiming my play is Kary-centric hilarious in light of your fixation with him. First you don't care about him, then you hate him, then you claim to hate him yet are... saving him from me by lynching me instead? It doesn't make any sense and just makes me think you've really gone downhill in your scum game. (or off your rocker as town)
Look Soup: if this is the height of your game, to insinuate that me and Kary are partners because I talked some and then left, and that Dabuz still needs to die anyways, then to hope that this case against me makes some sense to anyone then I hate to tell you: but the soup went cold days ago.
[/collapse]Because he went on to make that hilarious case on me around it as well, it doesn't make any sense otherwise. When things seem like they don't make sense in mafia I usually assume there's a scum involved.
The way I see it, first Soup ignored Kary (which I find was difficult), then had a revelation and denounced his obvious scum when the issue looked like it was going to be pushed, then backed off like it wasn't on his priories in favor of Dabuz when it lifted, then back to... I'm not even sure what to call his latest play. There's a major discrepency between his play and the response he gave to me when I asked how I felt about him of:
Attacking Jdietz. Flat out wrong because remember Soup, you said that obvtown was trying to body Dabuz. Omni was fine with Dabuz going back then. Notice how you didn’t substantiate your obvtowns.Let's read JDietz response and catch how many times he's lying through his teeth.
Where did Omni come into this now? You're already off to a bad start!
Alright, you’re just OMGUS’ing at this point. This is also very hypocritical coming from the person that hasn’t paid NH any mind.If that is Circus please tell me what J is thinking trying to say that JDietz has his head screwed on tight. Please tell me what in world of mafia that it's Protown to ignore someone who has been given chase all goddamn day just because he's null from a uninformed perspective. Please tell me how you think I'm full of hot air and where J (or you) have seen Pro town intention on JDietz post. Please tell me what world of mafia players can give away with being inconsistent.
The .gifnot sure if reaction to mini-wall or funniest ****ing dancing gif I've ever found
Quote.i have issues believing EE wrote any of that
its 100% eei have issues believing EE wrote any of that
I do love my hot chocolate.Omni and NH caressing each others penisses
gorf dammit.RykEEr can be null-town as long as EE gets in one post a day phase.
otherwise it's back to rue number one scum lean
Just doing homework and looking at the thread when I need a break. I've really only read this last page. I still have 6 or so pages before it to read. Like I said earlier, I won't really be able to post anything of substance (if I ever do post anything of substance, I guess relevance is a better word. I'm not very long winded, am I?).gorf dammit.
I see hando viewing, wondering whats going to happen.
BSP, i read your wall, tell me how soup flipping scum would effect your bardull read, taking into consideration his posts from the other day.
So EE, you think Hando is scum because of one untypical reaction? I mean, I can see where you're coming from but it's one ****ing point. That's a thin basis for an execution - somewhere on the backburner or as a missing link or something. It's not a bad read at all, I'll give you that but I think by now your playerslot should have a lot more to offer than that.
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pretty sure that was an icing to the cake to solidify their scumread, gheb.So Ryker and I were talking through the roster and Hando had a lot of... well, as Ryker put it, "this is bad, and this is bad, and this isn't too bad but when you look at it this way..."
More like a mixture of my dyslexia and blunt skimming which I already admitted to. Why is this so important to you in the first place?BSP said:Soup, literally 1 line in Omni’s post was directed at Bardull, yet you took the whole thing to be about him. This is the first case of you not reading closely.
Again, skimming. I will however stand my ground and say that Bardull did have stances just not as much as clarified. Pretty confident in this based on my own memory. I'm not going to appeal to re-reading because you've already done your homework. This is telling to you and important to you for what reason? I admitted what I did wrong and corrected my mistakes, clearly in your world there's no room for error.Now here’s strike 2. Soup, when providing your reasoning for a scum read on Dabuz, you incorrectly stated that Bardull had multiple stances put out at the time. This was false, and further shows me that you weren’t paying attention.
Yeah, I bul****ted there and bluntly skimmed things. Seemed like Kary was doing things at the time but you are forgetting what happened afterwards. I corrected myself. I corrected my mistakes. and I lead on things that I missed in the past. Even before I was doing things but it did take you to you to point them out for me to care, but that's when I realized it. Your problem resides with this why?Now for strike 3. Here, you make your 3rd oversight of this Day and you incorrectly state quite confidently that Kary has multiple stances put out when you start pressuring me.
That's not true. I skimmed some of it but I didn't just look at it as nothing. I only skimmed the walls and things that didn't interest me, and I do it all the time. How is this scummy again? I don't care if someone skims an argument but something I do care is if I present one and they just blow it off completely. The fact remains that you're implying that I should be treated special about it but excuse me If I'm wrong but what about everyone else and their stance towards Kary? Have you looked at that? You're only giving me special attention because of your gut, and that's fine and dandy but all I'm telling you is that a lot of your reasoning falls flat from being legitimate. I don't think you're scum wasting my time with these walls, I just think you're wrong on the logic of things behind them.Soup, there is no doubt in my mind that you weren’t paying attention to the thread and you were just pulling stuff from nowhere. Seriously, 3 oversights in the same Day? If you’re really a townie who doesn’t know anything, you don’t give anyone anything for granted without making sure about it. You did it twice, and I’m not just going to let that fly.
You got me. You caught me being lazy and unmotivated. Just kidding, you didn't catch anything and you're taking this issue and trying to make into a bigger one. What's your problem with me correcting what I missed and realizing my own mistakes? You want me to be ignorant to what's going on? This is rhetorical, and I'm not trying to say that's how I feel, it's just that your strikes on me are just boiled down into poor play on my part. How is poor definitively scummy to you? Your opposition against me is that a townie wouldn't skim or not pay attention as much as I have. That's wrong and you could probably ask everyone who has played mafia and they will tell you that they've skimmed before. You're looking at the act of skimming, and not the intention. Even then, skimming isn't something I don't really call people out on, I might just smack them and say 'stop skimming' but you've literally condensed a wall into one sore act of skimming and trying to turn into a defining piece of evidence why I'm scum. I'm going to tell you now that as either alignment that I'm going to skim. I've skimmed this page already like twice now. I've skimmed Gheb's and Omni's arguments, and I've skimmed stuff about NH. I know you're getting to that next into this behemoth, but I wanted to clarify. It caught my eye and after you showed it to me, I jumped onto it. Your issue seems to reside and you think that I'm just jumping on for the 'ez wagon' or whatever your gut is telling you. That's not even true for one and two I'll push on whatever I damn please if I think it's scummy enough, regardless of the situation or the instance behind it. Moving on.BSP said:First off, everything you question Kary about has been on the table the whole time. It's weird how you just completely miss all of it, and now suddenly, Kary's largely one of your scum picks.
Easy =/= Bad. An Easy lynch is not going to be something that is always town. Scum is very easy to lynch, it's just that town makes themselves believe that they aren't so they let them get away with murder. An easy lynch does not define what I choose, I pick players I think are scummy. I could care less if you're easy and I've proven why deciding lynches and a scale factor of difficulty is wrong. Remember Kary's newbie? Yeah, me too. I pushed Monstrmrna for the scum he was in D3 and that goddamn game to victory. Was he an easy lynch? Absolutely! Scum will work with whatever they're given, and they will change how they play depending on the situation. I hate this mindset that the guy lurking or the guy not contributing is just null, **** that **** he's probably a terrible townie or scum and even then a terrible townie has defining qualities. A townie wants to find scum, even if they're bad. Dabuz didn't show any effort to scumhunt at that point and nothing he did made me say to myself 'this is a guy who wants to find scum.' It instead told me 'this is a guy who rather lurk his *** of and be non-committal to the thread than try to find scum. Red flag.' That's my basis on Dabuz for one and two Kary was elaborated already on that post you quoted. You gonna lynch me for acting out on my impulses and trying to scumhunt? JDietz was only a feeling and I literally had a moment where everything made sense to me. I acted on it and elaborated on it. Look where we are now. You want to say I'm just going for the easy again to me without looking at that?Now this is your proposed scum team. In following, posts, you claim that it all makes sense and that Kary and Dabuz are really obvious. You then tell me that you have this scum team thought out, but your only flip ideas are: scumDabuz, go Kary; scumKary, go Dabuz; if they flip town, I don’t know. I think you’re just looking for the easiest lynch to swing at this point.
And then you said this
That's normal for marshy for one and two It's a lynch I agree with. I'm not going to question the motives of the guy pushing the lynch I think is scum, I'm going to let him help me lynch this scumbag and then after that's said and done figure it out later if he was just bussing or the alike. It's all very situational. Refer to my paragraph I wrote above you because a lot of it meshes into why I really ignored NH. He's not a terrible townie, but he's scumhunting. I see NH doing things, I see NH pushing who he thinks is scum. I'm perfectly fine with this for the moment being and I don't feel the need to repeat myself in the same goddamn paragraph.Up to that point, No Hetero had done nothing that game besides come in and try to push a Dabuz lynch, yet you find Jdietz more scummy that NH for some reason. This is also a time to point out that you’ve been largely ignoring NH for the most part outside of buddying attempts.
After this, I’m not going to show all the posts because it’s a lot, you just start going hard on anything Dabuz throws at you.
Kary is more scummy than Dabuz, but Dabuz has more priority. Dabuz is more likely to get lynched (reality check! difficulty of a lynch isn't a factor unless situational!) and easier to prod and push. You can call it what you want but I already had enough on Dabuz and enough support to get it done today. Kary will always be an option as will JDietz. I want JDietz more based on the last interaction I had with him. Priority changes all the time. Refer to my last paragraph as to why it's different with NH.Soup, this simply makes no sense. You’re telling me that Kary is more scummy than Dabuz, but he’s less of a priority. Also, if you really started reading this game, why haven’t you questioned NH about a single meaningful thing? In your big post on Dabuz, you claim that not committing is a big deal of his. Why aren’t you getting on NH about it?
Cross out Kary and yeah I'd be pretty confident in those town reads for the moment being. Not going to explain why I feel this way (hint, I've said it plenty of times in this response) but I am going to appeal to reason. Omni leans town. He's been active enough and I feel he's hunting scum. A lot of what he does is shoddy to me but in the end the genuineness might just come from his playstyle. I didn't like his read on me but I feel like he is trying to discern my alignment in his own way. I think that will change as the game gets farther however and I'll have a better feeling about how Omni operates which is why he's just a lean besides the fact of (Gasp! pushing someone I think is scum!). I feel like Omni is a player that gets **** done and doesn't really care about the trivial details. NH gives me good vibes. I've been pretty accurate on reading marshy for the most part and I don't feel my aim is off either. Nabe head is the problem for me but that's just picking sides. He's pushing who I want. He's with my cause. Good enough for me.Now this is important. If you respond/look at anything, look at this.
Obvtown bodying Dabuz? The people that want Dabuz gone to your knowledge at that point are Kary, Omni, yourself, and No Hetero.
You're giving Omni, NH, and Kary town reads? And claim they're obvious ones at that?. Would you care explaining this?
I'm not perfect. I get things wrong. I'm prepared to be wrong. I'm also very prepared to be right on the money and ride that feeling all the way home. Either way, I have to consider the alternative. If Dabuz flips scum like I think he does, then I go hardbody on the others. If he doesn't, then I need to think about things a little bit more and look at things that I might have missed. It's all a procedural process that doesn't reach a final conclusion until I'm either dead or I've lynched all the scum. If I trip or make a mistake in my process, I correct it and find what I did wrong. I'm not a player who comes into games saying "I'm going to lynch all the scum day one." If I get all the scum day one, then great! I was accurate on my reads and I played well this game. If I fall completely flat on my face and get everything absolutely wrong, then I get back up and try again. Mafia is a game of trial and error."Even if he isn't scum"? I thought you said it was obvious? Again, you've said Kary is more scummy, but you're going to go with Dabuz first?
Elaborated on previous paragraphs. I'm not repeating myself.And yet, you still ignore No Hetero 100% when you cite non clarified reads and no intent to post anything of merit to look at Dabuz as scum. I’ve taken a look at NH’s game. Outside of claiming that Dabuz needs to die (scum), and having a null on Hando, NH hasn’t put out any stances at the point of time in this post. Other than that, I’ve just seen him attack posts against other players. Yet you were confused when I asked you why he isn’t a scum choice. How is that not a contradiction?
Yeah I'm OMGUSing a guy who didn't even post about me around that point.I think you’re OMGUS’ing JD at this point.
My mind? My logic? My experience? My gut? A lot of places. Figure it ****ing out. I don't just post because I think it's fun. I've already elaborated on my thought process and I hope you do the same for me. I want you to read this and understand clearly where I'm coming from because one I am town and two I don't want to have to do this again. This is my duty to reply to this ****ing post and just be screaming internally about it. Attacking players who I think are scum is now scummy? Really! God, I had it wrong. Let's just do nothing and question each other all day without coming to an conclusion of anything. I'm not saying it's bad but you're implying that me being hard on JDietz is scummy. It's laughable and god forbid when you get like me and you play 41+ games and you get frustrated at lines like these. It's sad logic and you're trying to make JDietz out as purely innocent. Wrong. Scum wants to be innocent, Scum wants to be the little helpless child. Not all scum are like that, because scum play scum differently. There is not definite black and white in mafia, it's not how it works. You're make this seem like my instance is purely scummy without looking at the basis behind it and why I'm doing it. Maybe you didn't your homework as I thought you did and instead you're just look at the face-value of the attack. Look at my argument instead of why I'm attacking JDietz. Look at JDietz and try to realize why I attacked him in the first place. All of this is elaborated and explained already.Lol, not ready to call the team on D1. Why did you tell me you were confident in your team then? Where are you pulling all of this from?
I agree with all 3 of these posts from JD. Notice how Soup ignores the question of asking to explain his obvtown reads and proceeds to attack Jdietz.
He lied. He added Omni for no transparent reason and didn't gave an explanation to it. He blatantly lied and he got called out for it. Maybe that's why I'm pushing him? Because I think he's a dirty scumbag and a liar? Wow! Did that just catch your mind now? Do you understand now? Do you get why I'm frustrated? Who's townie to you? Is JDietz really townie to you just because he seems like he cares? I'm honestly considered and I want an answer. Before you say 'well u did too' I'm going to tell to you to stop what you're doing. I didn't lie about something or add a factor in without explaining a reason behind it. Maybe it wasn't at first, maybe I even happened to skimmed and missed it for the first part, but I got around to it and here I am just shoveling this **** at you like It's ****ing Christmas Eve. Do you need more? Do you need me to write more paragraphs or have I made myself clear? Oh wait, I'm not even done yet so I have more time to talk. Yay!!!Attacking Jdietz. Flat out wrong because remember Soup, you said that obvtown was trying to body Dabuz. Omni was fine with Dabuz going back then. Notice how you didn’t substantiate your obvtowns.
Got me again BSP. I OMGUSed. I totally just went "**** YOU, JDIETZ!" and guess what? I'll do it again. And you're still not looking at the intention behind rather just the instance how is the OMGUS a defining scum play to you? Town OMGUSes all the goddamn time. You can't just look at things like that and I've screamed this point at you before in this wall. I can't stress that enough and literally anything else is just torn apart. I don't think you have any argument after this and I want you to start taking me seriously from now because I'm not ****ing around and just skimming. You've brought me into this game and now you're either taking me out of it or you're going to shut the **** up and deal with it. This is not about being uncooperative to your will, If anything I am just your ****ing slave mashing on my keyboard to make this post just to appeal to you. I hope I have served you well and you aware of how much effort and time I put into this ****. This is just banter at this point and I want you to feel how I feel. I want you to understand where I come from and I want you to realize how terribly wrong you are. That will be my joy and making it all worth it.Alright, you’re just OMGUS’ing at this point. This is also very hypocritical coming from the person that hasn’t paid NH any mind.
That’s what's on my mind. This isn't even including most of the posts you made trying to rush me to end the Day. How is that pro-town?
I'm not going to deny that Dabuz isn't a bad choice for toDay, but I'm seriously hesitant to be persuaded off of Soup.
Feel free to pick this thing apart, but actually back up your disagreements with actual evidence and don't give me any gutread or meta stuff