Mass Effect (King Maker) - Glorious Way to End the Day. Mafia Wins!

[Dabuz]

dabuz, read over my play. i've stated several reasons why i've been uncomfortable with Soup. comment on it if u want, but the content is there for u to read

Ok, cool. 10char.


@NH: post 133: "I'm fine with the king running things however he wants. BSP, if you want to run toDay like a standard D1, go ahead. If you don't want to, I'm also fine with that." What you quoted comes a little after that, go read the page if you want.

 

[Omni]

you're flipflopping a lot with me, dbear. get the facts straight and then come at me with some real points. it's not good for my public image if u say if u start voting me and thinking that im rubbing you the wrong way. one thing leading to another and i'm fish food.

and i dont want that. you dont want that. i dont taste good.

 

[Death Bear]

i cant remember where you did it is why lol

 

[Omni]

oh, in that case, lol. stop being lazy and find it. im too lazy to dig up my own information to verify for other people and then use it as a counterargument to paint you as scum so people will think im awesome and you're not

 

[Death Bear]

fine >.>
making me work hard.

what is this.

 

[Omni]

but seriously lay it on me. do you still have an issue with me? if not, then go back to holding my hand so we can ride this Dabuz train to the moon

 

[Death Bear]

i think my issue was i couldn't remember when / if you ever actually voted on soup, which would be telling if you were saying that he was scummier than dabuz, because , why would you not "vote " / apply pressure or w/e you wanna call it on someone who you found more scummy than another one of your scum reads ?

 

[Death Bear]

^rhetorical question

 

[Omni]

ah, okay. you straight then

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

="Dabuz"]I also didn't mention the reasons he says I'm scum supposedly for sure maybe not (since IDK what he's actually thinking) would also apply to Jdietz at the time since Jdietz stated he has the same philosophy wrt king as I do. Still think he's just pressuring for the sake of pressure and getting discussion in the game.

That didn't really tell me anything. Did you read it or not? I want you to read it before you respond to me again.

Wait what? I haven't read any posts between my last response to Kary and before my 573, only skimmed. Besides that, I still don't know what the scum case on you is, I've only brought up my thoughts on based on recent events.

Fair. You should get to that.

I got frustrated as mentioned and jumped to the conclusion that you must be scum without actually thinking out my reasons well. Those reasons were you protecting NH, which when I re-read it, is a terribly dumb reason. The other reason, wanting to end the day early, has no weight on it's own in a scumread. When I re-evaluated them, neither reason made sense.

So you were just frustrated at that moment? ._. Can't say I haven't been there but I would appreciate everything I've already asked of you to be clarified more.

 

[Handorin]

Guys, chill. I'm on vacation. I'm flying back tomorrow night. Then... I have a German paper due Thursday and an economics essay due Friday. Anyways.

In my general skim of the last few pages, I have to admit that lynching either dabuz or Kary will net the most information. It doesn't sit with me well that so many are jumping on the dabuz wagon, but that's something to look at later.

And I'd love to see some posts from mastermind. Even I have managed to post a few times within my schedule, and there are two of them.

 

[Jdietz43]

Skimmed up to the last few pages,

Would be fine seeing a Kary/Soup/No Hetero kill, I feel they're the most suspicious atm.

Still don't really see merit in a a Dabuz kill past what Omni stipulates in his "scummy players are dead weight" theory.

I'm currently wondering why Soup flip-flopped his stance on Kary so suddenly (will get around to quoting), as well as why NH is bashing his head against Jerkus (who I feel is on point).

 

[Jdietz43]

EBWOP: It should be noted I still find Dabuz mostly null (the way I quoted Omni's feelings makes it sound like I agree with his assessment Dabuz is scum)

 

[Jdietz43]

I've skimmed Kary's post and if anything looking at it I see where I was wrong on it. I don't see any stances and if anything I'm starting to more lean on scum considering the attitude in them. I'm not sure if he's being stubborn as scum tough, but it feels like Nercomafia Kary to say the least. I'll look into it more after I've caught up again. You guys don't stop posting.

Reading Kary again, he's acting weird. I'm sure I had a meta on him before but what I don't like is what Jerkus already elaborated in his earlier post when he voted with Kary.

Kary, you're on a posting high, I read a lot of your posts and they seem really pointless or just add on an earlier point you made, but the fact remains is that this high isn't just because you're pursuing what you want. If anything, It's you clinging to your read yet not putting any effort to substantiate it OR pursue it. Simply put, A lot of it is filler.

Do you still want Dabuz? Why the switch on Death Bear?

I don't even get why you were pushing Bardull the way you were, I'm kinda shaking my head at this moment for bluntly skimming it but your means don't meet the end. I can understand pressure but the only sort of pressure I seen is that you came back once or twice to call for votes on Bardull, without leaving a specific reason. It's the same avenue as Dabuz too. I'm bothered by it now that I think of it.

Soup do you still feel Kary is scummy now, and if so do you rate him above Dabuz?

There seems to be an awful lot of things you were just then claiming to notice. Was there any particular reason you didn't notice Kary's play before?

 

[Jdietz43]

That's about all I've got for now in the quick time I've got before I have to sleep. I'll try to get more in after work tomorrow.

 

[Omni]

Still don't really see merit in a a Dabuz kill past what Omni stipulates in his "scummy players are dead weight" theory

that wasn't my theory at all.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Omni, your "questions" are crap. Both contain very whack points that I don't see the need to really respond to. You're simply making an incorrect statement if you say that only scum benefits from not following a voting system.

also, gheb. u should want dabuz dead. there's no reason why he should be kept alive. give me one reason why we shouldn't lynch dabuz today

Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I just took a look at it.

There's one thing in that post that bothers me but it's something I'd really rather keep in my backpocket for now [The one my hydra partner doesn't have his hand in].

Why not lynch him? Don't wanna see your scumbuddy go on Day 1 or what?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

In my general skim of the last few pages, I have to admit that lynching either dabuz or Kary will net the most information.

What info do we get from lynching dabuz? If he's town we now that 75% of the town were being ******** and the other 25% get to learn nothing from it. We'd be back to zero and get to watch marshy doing to same garbage he's pulling off toDay with somebody else.

Let's push Marshy and Omni, already.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@BSP

Do you consider Omni and NH potential lynch candidates for toDay? If not you really should start doing so. Read my interactions with them [there are plenty] and tell me you're OK with them gone.

 

[Omni]

gheb, when did u get so bad at this game

 

[No Hetero]

gheb, when did u get so bad at this game

 

[Omni]

Why not lynch him? Don't wanna see your scumbuddy go on Day 1 or what?

also, LMFAO.

yes, gheb. because marshy would completely buddy his scumbuddy Omni day 1. you're starting to sound full of it. anyone with half a brain knows Marshy would bus the **** out of me D1 and never look back if we were scummates. it's not even meta; it's a fact

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

[quote="JDietz43]Soup do you still feel Kary is scummy now, and if so do you rate him above Dabuz?

There seems to be an awful lot of things you were just then claiming to notice. Was there any particular reason you didn't notice Kary's play before?[/quote]

Above Dabuz for the moment but not enough where I would put him ahead of priority. Dabuz needs to respond to things and so does Kary, simply put as that. I didn't really notice his play because I was bluntly skimming and that's just really poor on my part. After sitting down and looking at it I was more certain and more aware of my read on Kary for an example. I've had Dabuz scum for a long time.

 

[Omni]

@Rockin/Mod: wtf @ Mastermind. it's two people and it's been 4 days.

 

[No Hetero]

Why not lynch him [Omni]? Don't wanna see your scumbuddy go on Day 1 or what?

Because dabuz is the play and the problem you have with that post don't change that. Not that I'm surprised to see your complete ineptitude of correctly reading my slot.

Speaking of which.

http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=177754

PLEASE?

 

[BSP]

Gheb, I've considered it, but where would we go if no Herero flipped town?

I'll get to Omni when I'm at a computer, there's something I need to ask him

 

[BSP]

Wait, that was stupid. We look at Soup and Kary regardless.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Omni you are not even close to get buddied by marshy. Nor are you considered scum by a lot of people either so there's no need for a bus here. Rather than trying to ridicule my person for making a point you can't seem to deal with you should try to actually take it serious and be cooperative - one of the main points of your town-self ... which I really doubt you are right now.

 

[Omni]

you're trying to meta me from years ago. and you're doing an awful job. "wow, this isn't the omni i know. he's got to be scum." marshy is agreeing with many of points. he's normally the one to start busses on me, actually. i'm ridiculing your person because you are nullifying other people's questions and only validating your own.

just because im having fun with this game doesn't mean im taking it serious

and ive been much more cooperative than you've been with your self-righteous 'imma single black female who dont need no man' rambo attitude. it's gross; never seen it before but it's gross

your doubt stems from meta. pure meta. you aren't making good reads and you aren't making logical decisions. dabuz will not be helpful end game and he should die now. you've been ok with him because you agree with his logic that the King should be able to do w/e they want. but that's stupid. and you supporting him and not being on board with pressuring or lynching him is stupid.

im not getting lynched today. marshy isn't getting lynched today. so stop wasting our time and actually decide who you want to lynch out of the potential candidates today i.e. dabuz, soup, you. but mainly dabuz

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb, I've considered it, but where would we go if no Herero flipped town?

1.) We'd be able to actually focus on leads and tells and not on arbitrary decisions that apparently require no explanation whatsoever. We could - 'yknow - start to actually hunt scum. Marshy isn't doing that, nor is Omni. Hando isn't doing it yet but I hope he will start soon. Can't tell if Soup is doing it or not.

2.) If No Hetero flips town he will have nothing left for us that is of any use. Which by itself begs the question why would assume him to be town in the first place? It is a good question and it is a correct question what we will do if marshy flips town. The more he leaves us to work with the less reason we have assume him to be scum and to lynch him. He's doing the complete opposite, therefore a reason to assume him to be town does not exist right now.

3.) What he has left us to work with are his interactions with Jerkus and myself. Neither slot has seen a lot of spotlight so far because people are being idiots about Kary's, Death Bear's idiosyncracy and dabuz' incompetence - that's the kind of stuff we don't wanna see even more about than we already do. Especially you, in your position as King - and as an assumed townie - could give us a lot of insight here because while I disagree with that approach, a lot of people are looking up to your decision. A lynch against Marshy would make it clear where you stand, that you are a king strong enough to take responsibility and not just BSing around.

Lynching Omni though can only be a gain right now. Either decision is fine.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

im not getting lynched today. marshy isn't getting lynched today. so stop wasting our time and actually decide who you want to lynch out of the potential candidates today i.e. dabuz, soup, you. but mainly dabuz

Terrible, disgusting paragraph.

You need to be murdered in the most painful way imagineable.

 

[Omni]

*sits back and watches this unfold*

id actually like to see how this pans out. very interested in people's thoughts on Gheb

 

[No Hetero]

What info do we get from lynching dabuz? If he's town we now that 75% of the town were being ******** and the other 25% get to learn nothing from it. We'd be back to zero and get to watch marshy doing to same garbage he's pulling off toDay with somebody else.

The bolded is bull****. I've already said I'll be 80% less annoying once dabuz is gone. When I feel that someone should die then I hound them til one of us does. Gheb is assuming that I (marshy) will do my tunneling thing all game but fails to consider the Nabe half who actually gives a **** about what Town generally thinks and is willing to play ball with their pointless questions that distract from the proper plays. As for "info", I don't care about lynching for informations' sake and believe the scummiest people should always go.

I don't think Gheb is scummy for saying this, just ******** and has no idea what the **** he's talking about. I wanted to make that clear cuz I dislike this hydras method of play getting written off as "marshy hardbody tunnel" when it's much sexier than that [for real though check out The Wall to see us play in a more traditional sense. The only reason you haven't seen that here is cuz Nabe has been busy and I've been doing most of the posting. Speaking of which, he should have a post up soon.]

 

[Omni]

Terrible, disgusting paragraph.

You need to be murdered in the most painful way imagineable.

do i really? that's exactly what i thought when u said you have nothing to prove to anyone which probably goes down as the worst thing ever said by anyone in the history of mafia.

gheb, make a case against me, bro. i think we all understand that you're butthurt that i'm not "super serious omni" and that this isn't the same play you've seen from me since the last time we played years ago. so... what exactly is your problem? define it and own up to it because when i tear your argument to pieces i don't want any excuses

 

[Omni]

 

[Death Bear]

gheb how can you say innocent until proven guilty and then turn around and swing your hard on for NH's head like it's not a enormous double standard

 

[Omni]

I have nothing to prove to you.

Omni, your "questions" are crap. Both contain very whack points that I don't see the need to really respond to. You're simply making an incorrect statement if you say that only scum benefits from not following a voting system.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Why not lynch him? Don't wanna see your scumbuddy go on Day 1 or what?

Let's push Marshy and Omni, already.

@BSP Do you consider Omni and NH potential lynch candidates for toDay? If not you really should start doing so.

Rather than trying to ridicule my person for making a point you can't seem to deal with you should try to actually take it serious and be cooperative - one of the main points of your town-self ... which I really doubt you are right now.

1.) We'd be able to actually focus on leads and tells and not on arbitrary decisions that apparently require no explanation whatsoever. We could - 'yknow - start to actually hunt scum. Marshy isn't doing that, nor is Omni. Hando isn't doing it yet but I hope he will start soon. Can't tell if Soup is doing it or not.

2.) If No Hetero flips town he will have nothing left for us that is of any use. Which by itself begs the question why would assume him to be town in the first place? It is a good question and it is a correct question what we will do if marshy flips town. The more he leaves us to work with the less reason we have assume him to be scum and to lynch him. He's doing the complete opposite, therefore a reason to assume him to be town does not exist right now.

3.) What he has left us to work with are his interactions with Jerkus and myself. Neither slot has seen a lot of spotlight so far because people are being idiots about Kary's, Death Bear's idiosyncracy and dabuz' incompetence - that's the kind of stuff we don't wanna see even more about than we already do. Especially you, in your position as King - and as an assumed townie - could give us a lot of insight here because while I disagree with that approach, a lot of people are looking up to your decision. A lynch against Marshy would make it clear where you stand, that you are a king strong enough to take responsibility and not just BSing around.

and as an assumed townie

Lynching Omni though can only be a gain right now.

 

[No Hetero]

1a.) We'd be able to actually focus on leads and tells and not on arbitrary decisions that apparently require no explanation whatsoever. We could - 'yknow - start to actually hunt scum. Marshy isn't doing that, nor is Omni. Hando isn't doing it yet but I hope he will start soon. Can't tell if Soup is doing it or not.

2a.) If No Hetero flips town he will have nothing left for us that is of any use. 2b.) Which by itself begs the question why would assume him to be town in the first place? It is a good question and it is a correct question what we will do if marshy flips town. The more he leaves us to work with the less reason we have assume him to be scum and to lynch him. He's doing the complete opposite, therefore a reason to assume him to be town does not exist right now.

3a.) What he has left us to work with are his interactions with Jerkus and myself. Neither slot has seen a lot of spotlight so far because people are being idiots about Kary's, Death Bear's idiosyncracy and dabuz' incompetence - that's the kind of stuff we don't wanna see even more about than we already do. 3b.) Especially you, in your position as King - and as an assumed townie - could give us a lot of insight here because while I disagree with that approach, a lot of people are looking up to your decision. A lynch against Marshy would make it clear where you stand, that you are a king strong enough to take responsibility and not just BSing around.

Lynching Omni though can only be a gain right now. Either decision is fine.

Line-by-line it is. You don't get to go over my head and try to appeal to the king with ****tyass arguments leading to wrong decisions.

1.) Not explicitly stated != arbitrary. No one is stopping you from pushing through these "leads" and "tells" you're so concerned about either; you're just using favorable language to coerce BSP into playing into your wrong read. Again, the game isn't going how you want it to go since you're not getting a lot of attention on me/Omni and instead I want to go dabuz. It's complete ****ing garbage that you're coming at me with an attitude that suggests, "marshy isn't explicitly stating his reasons for going dabuz and thus isn't scum hunting" when you YOURSELF have failed to present what was wrong with Omni's earlier post and just asked me to look at it where he interacts with you and I didn't publicly state what could be seen as grimy with it. Obviously, you wanted me to hop onto some Omni hate and/or gauge my language in talking about him for your scumteam that already has a 50% failure rate. But you don't see me *****ing about your lack of detail with that post because I can deduce what's wrong with it by looking at it myself and thus understand where you're coming from, even if it's not top priority for me. Hypocritical bull****.

2a.) Nope, you have my hate of dabuz. That alone is of use knowing that it's coming from a 100% protown player who isn't manipulating town.

2b.) Gheb, you JUST SAID "innocent until proven guilty" and then come in here and say "why would we assume No Hetero to be town in the first place?" are you serious dude? Instead of destroying this point and thus everything afterwards due to it being based on it, I'm just going to let your own continued hypocrisy do it for me.

3a.) I actually don't mind this. dabuz should die and you're just wrong about that though.

3b.) What the ****? If you don't agree with it, suggesting it is publicly acknowledging that ****ty method is justified. Bad leeway. BSP's job as a king is to lynch scum, not make some half-***** point on a power that he probably can only use ONCE during the course of the game. As for "taking responsibility" BSP will have to do just that REGARDLESS of his execution because he doesn't just get to make a game altering decision and walk away with it [not that it's scummy, just the nature of executions often leads to justified scrutiny].

ITT Gheb shoves hypocritical bull**** down people's throats. Still want dabuz tho. **** outta hear.

 

[No Hetero]

Man, this is almost as bad as when I had to spend most of a dayphase playing tug of war and fighting off OS and KevinM/Ryker for being wrong about everything in Paper Mario 64 and The Wall respectively. *****s and their terrible lynches and cockblocking good plays by use of ****ty and tiresome arguments that look impressive only a shallow level these days man.