Mass Effect (King Maker) - Glorious Way to End the Day. Mafia Wins!

[Dabuz]

"Kary is null-leaning town IMO. He/ she is almost certainly pressuring me for the sake of pressuring me and generating discussion. As a result the logic is a bit lacking. It's like what the slot was doing to you, Bardull."

"I think No Hetero is scum or dumb. He hopped onto my case with no reasoning, is purposely being anti-town and arguing for the sake of arguing and not having to find justification to jump on my case."

I can see Soup's play atm in one of two ways: He's town who is very confident about his read, but being extremely bat**** ******** about pushing like this. Or, and what I think ATM, he's scum and pushing to end the day early, maybe to protect one of his scumbuddies (who would most likely be NH), or maybe since he just wants a quick end to D1 while he can get it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

so your townread isn't even substantiated and you're just blowing hot air

ok

 

[No Hetero]

This is looking pretty good so far, everybody keep doing what they're doing.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

last post was to bardull

dabuz if you flip town i might cry, but get over because it's one person gone and not the end of the world, i'm not gonna admit i'm always right but i am going to advocate to lynch people who i think are scum

win/win for me

 

[Dabuz]

Omni's play is kinda armchair critic. He's pushing my lynch without actually doing much, and besides that, he seems content on commenting about the meta of mafiascum as a game or it's players. In his response to me (517), he says he has made stances and points, but I don't remember seeing those besides wanting me dead. Besides that, he's basically calling me a **** player. I don't have any read on him though, I just get the sense he wants to be lazy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Kary is null-leaning town IMO. He/ she is almost certainly pressuring me for the sake of pressuring me and generating discussion. As a result the logic is a bit lacking. It's like what the slot was doing to you, Bardull.

and what do you think about the cases made against him, like mine

think No Hetero is scum or dumb. He hopped onto my case with no reasoning, is purposely being anti-town and arguing for the sake of arguing and not having to find justification to jump on my case.

ok so would you bet he's scum over dumb or other way around gun's pointed to your head speak fast

he's scum and pushing to end the day early, maybe to protect one of his scumbuddies (who would most likely be NH), or maybe since he just wants a quick end to D1 while he can get it.

**** outta hear with this **** *** logic lmao why would i be trying to protect NH fypov, you're still not telling me a direct stance either way, hell, you didn't even give a direct stance on kary either

 

[No Hetero]

No Hetero, look at what you said regarding Jerkus' post on Kary:

You defend Kary here for some reason by attacking Jerkus' post. Instead actually looking into the slot that is actually quite suspicious, you just attack the post against it. Note: attack, not even refute. You're just attacking it for some reason while trying to push the Dabuz lynch.

What are you trying to do?

This isn't an attack. You've read out of context. It's a post to Gheb, talking about frustration over Gheb taking Jerkus seriously.

 

[Dabuz]

so your townread isn't even substantiated and you're just blowing hot air

ok

Townlean. Secondly, never heard the phrase "blowing hot air", what do you mean?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

that post was to bardull not you dabuz

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

dabuz you made a post about someone but you still don't give a direct read only NH so far is a scumread for you and everyone else is up in the air

why is NH so important and why are you having such an issue, i looked at your response and your attitude towards things definitely didn't seem like you weren't certain about things, you overreacted in the greatest sense of the word

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

actually not even NH is concrete he's just dumb or scum like me

seems like you've met your wits

 

[Omni]

watching the debate.
your guess is my answer, Dbear @ your question

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i guess you could say im

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leading a mutiny

 

[No Hetero]

ok let's end this on Dabuz or Kary BSP I have to see a flip on one of them.

 

[No Hetero]

i guess you could say im

leading a mutiny

 

[#HBC | marshy]

i hope you make a good decision bsp

word I the street is you only

lynch once

 

[Dabuz]

and what do you think about the cases made against him, like mine

A lot of the cases, like him not having substantial reasoning, talking a lot without saying much, trying to target a weak player are all pretty accurate. However, I don't think it's scum play in this because a lot of his play supports my theory that he is trying to pressure for the sake of pressuring and open up D1 discussion.

ok so would you bet he's scum over dumb or other way around gun's pointed to your head speak fast

You don't hold the gun here, so don't act like you do. Scum > dumb.

**** outta hear with this **** *** logic lmao why would i be trying to protect NH fypov, you're still not telling me a direct stance either way, hell, you didn't even give a direct stance on kary either

Re-thinking about it, you are probably dumbtown. I can't see why scum would try to protect NH here, my scum read on you is out of frustration since it's stupid to end the day this early, and I missed watching some good Starcract 2 matches to respond to this thread >_>;;. HOWEVER, I still want someone to summarize the reason for suspicion on you being scum since I haven't read that.

 

[No Hetero]

i hope you make a good decision bsp

word I the street is you only

lynch once

quotey quote

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

why are we still in dayphase

 

[No Hetero]

I'll read and comment on this later, just skimming for now. But WTF, I've never seen Soup this desperate in mafiascum.

This sentence is where death lives. Call it down and yea, so shall it be.

 

[Dabuz]

actually not even NH is concrete he's just dumb or scum like me

seems like you've met your wits

I think he's scum. He still hasn't given substantial reasoning for jumping on my "wagon" and his strategy has been to attack people not for my wagon instead of support his reason to be on my wagon. Also, being up for ending the day phase this early never looks good IMO.

 

[No Hetero]

Soup, chill a bit as atm you're in 100% murder mode rather than like 72%

 

[BSP]

Soup, I already asked you this, so don't answer.

Everyone else,

Where do you go on either of Dabuz's flips?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

A lot of the cases, like him not having substantial reasoning, talking a lot without saying much, trying to target a weak player are all pretty accurate. However, I don't think it's scum play in this because a lot of his play supports my theory that he is trying to pressure for the sake of pressuring and open up D1 discussion.

so did you actually read the case or are you just talking out of your *** because it doesn't seem like you have

what about his blatant contradicting wrt your slot? you don't even care that he's being so fickle with you? no go dabuz

You don't hold the gun here, so don't act like you do. Scum > dumb.

enlighten me a couple of pages back and you didn't know why i was being scumread suddenly im scum of the month

Re-thinking about it, you are probably dumbtown. I can't see why scum would try to protect NH here, my scum read on you is out of frustration since it's stupid to end the day this early, and I missed watching some good Starcract 2 matches to respond to this thread >_>;;. HOWEVER, I still want someone to summarize the reason for suspicion on you being scum since I haven't read that.

so if you can't see it why did you bring it up in the first place aren't you contradicting yourself did you have a 180 in your own post or something

 

[No Hetero]

Soup, I already asked you this, so don't answer.

Everyone else,

Where do you go on either of Dabuz's flips?

Nobody answer this.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

sorry i heard the great god of the hammer calling me from above and i just went all hbc

 

[BSP]

Let me get this straight

You want to lynch someone, and you've refused to substantiate this position

And now you don't want to tell me where you go on his flips. How, in any way, is that bad information?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I think he's scum. He still hasn't given substantial reasoning for jumping on my "wagon" and his strategy has been to attack people not for my wagon instead of support his reason to be on my wagon. Also, being up for ending the day phase this early never looks good IMO.

what happened to him just possibly being dumb, why did this change suddenly and why are you certain on scum now compared to dumb, your original reason on NH was that of the same before he jumped on your wagon and he's being anti-town fypov

 

[No Hetero]

Marshy, tell me what you think about Omni's #467.

I just took a look at it.

There's one thing in that post that bothers me but it's something I'd really rather keep in my backpocket for now [The one my hydra partner doesn't have his hand in].

 

[No Hetero]

Hey, Circus

This was the post I meant, my bad as I thought it directly mentioned dabuz. It was actually a post addressed to you, a commentary on an ideology you share with dabuz, hence my confusion when I asked you to look for Gheb's post.

I still don't agree, especially the idea that holding him accountable for something he does wrong having to lead to his execution 'naturally'. I think what we we can all agree with though is that BSP should start to take his own stances asap and not just ask questions.

You got angry at me for asking you not to step on my toes, but you ended up leaving the thread long enough for it not to matter, so thanks.

 

[BSP]

Are you going to answer my question?

 

[Omni]

Re-thinking about it, you are probably dumbtown. I can't see why scum would try to protect NH here, my scum read on you is out of frustration since it's stupid to end the day this early, and I missed watching some good Starcract 2 matches to respond to this thread >_>;;. HOWEVER, I still want someone to summarize the reason for suspicion on you being scum since I haven't read that.

lol

dabuz, read over my play. i've stated several reasons why i've been uncomfortable with Soup. comment on it if u want, but the content is there for u to read

 

[No Hetero]

Let me get this straight

You want to lynch someone, and you've refused to substantiate this position

And now you don't want to tell me where you go on his flips. How, in any way, is that bad information?

In all fairness to you, your timing is only off by about 12 hours. Ask again tomorrow.

 

[Death Bear]

romNomi , you said before you didnt find dabuz as scummy as soup but where a-ok with dabuz going.

so where was you soup vote if you thought he was scummy and where di you get those feelings initially ?

 

[No Hetero]

sorry i heard the great god of the hammer calling me from above and i just went all hbc

That's fine, I understand my better self can make people feel steamy. Just, give him breathing room so that he actually posts.

 

[Dabuz]

so did you actually read the case or are you just talking out of your *** because it doesn't seem like you have

what about his blatant contradicting wrt your slot? you don't even care that he's being so fickle with you? no go dabuz

I also didn't mention the reasons he says I'm scum supposedly for sure maybe not (since IDK what he's actually thinking) would also apply to Jdietz at the time since Jdietz stated he has the same philosophy wrt king as I do. Still think he's just pressuring for the sake of pressure and getting discussion in the game.

enlighten me a couple of pages back and you didn't know why i was being scumread suddenly im scum of the month

Wait what? I haven't read any posts between my last response to Kary and before my 573, only skimmed. Besides that, I still don't know what the scum case on you is, I've only brought up my thoughts on based on recent events.

so if you can't see it why did you bring it up in the first place aren't you contradicting yourself did you have a 180 in your own post or something

I got frustrated as mentioned and jumped to the conclusion that you must be scum without actually thinking out my reasons well. Those reasons were you protecting NH, which when I re-read it, is a terribly dumb reason. The other reason, wanting to end the day early, has no weight on it's own in a scumread. When I re-evaluated them, neither reason made sense.

 

[No Hetero]

I'm fine with the king running the Day however he wants because even if town wants to tell him what to do, he can do W/E he wants.

dabuz, could you expand a bit on what you meant by this?

 

[Omni]

romNomi , you said before you didnt find dabuz as scummy as soup but where a-ok with dabuz going.

so where was you soup vote if you thought he was scummy and where di you get those feelings initially ?

where was my soup vote? you tell, dbear.

<this is where i actually quote the post where i vote soup and i then quote several more posts that explain why i voted soup and why i started smelling something fishy>

are you tossing these questions at me without doing any research? not only did i place a vote on soup i explained where i got those feelings exactly.

 

[Omni]

dabuz, could you expand a bit on what you meant by this?

damnit, nabe! that was like... 1st page ****.

 

[No Hetero]

I'd like to make sure I'm putting the right words into his mouth.
Cheers.