Marth

[Pacack]

I would think she would be more like an Assist trophy or something rather than an actual fighter.

I'd be thrilled to see her as an assist trophy, but I'd honestly much rather see Tiki. I mean, Tiki transforming into a dragon and just annihilating everything is too good to pass up (plus, I want to see Tiki and Marth together in HD).

 

[Jackson]

I'd be thrilled to see her as an assist trophy, but I'd honestly much rather see Tiki. I mean, Tiki transforming into a dragon and just annihilating everything is too good to pass up (plus, I want to see Tiki and Marth together in HD).

Yes! Lol I married Tiki on my 2nd Awakening play through. It would be great to see her.

 

[WPHP]

Anyone else think that Marth's character design in Smash 4 looks like the best in the series so far? I haven't really liked the way he looked in Melee and Brawl, but he looks dope in Smash 4.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Anyone else think that Marth's character design in Smash 4 looks like the best in the series so far? I haven't really liked the way he looked in Melee and Brawl, but he looks dope in Smash 4.

Yes by faaaar

 

[WPHP]

Cool. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Cool. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.

I think everyone agree's, I mean look at his hair, soooo pretty

 

[Oblivion129]

Anyone else think that Marth's character design in Smash 4 looks like the best in the series so far? I haven't really liked the way he looked in Melee and Brawl, but he looks dope in Smash 4.

I like how he looks in every game but I agree that he looks great in Smash 4. Not sure if I like him more than Melee but definitely up there.

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

My theory for Marth's redesign is that before he was Prince Marth, but now he's King Marth.

 

[Jackson]

My theory for Marth's redesign is that before he was Prince Marth, but now he's King Marth.

True. I think this design is based on his FE 12 look, where he is a king, so you're right.

 

[Rich Homie Quan]

I liked his Melee design. Not a fan of the Brawl design where his hair is straighter. Something about the Brawld design makes it feel like he lacks personality.

The SSB4 design is nice tho.

 

[Fumevapor]

I'd be thrilled if they gave him this appearance:

Looks like you're thrilled? xD

 

[Jackson]

Looks like you're thrilled? xD

Yeah I'm pretty sure that pic and his actual design are from FE12.

 

[DMurr]

Looks like you're thrilled? xD

Haha yeah I guess I got what I wanted.

 

[Pacack]

Why's this subforum so dead?

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

Why's this subforum so dead?

Because Ike.

 

[Raziek]

Because it's for a character who already exists in Brawl, for a game which isn't out yet.

Like, what is there to discuss, really?

 

[Pacack]

Because Ike.

Nah, it was dead before Ike.

 

[Shaya]

All true Marth mains communicate telepathically. You newgens will learn the skills if you sign the blood pact.

 

[Raziek]

So Shaya, I'll be sure to let you know how nair feels when I get my hands on the demo.

 

[Shaya]

I'm looking forward to hearing about it :D

 

[Raziek]

I'll be camping the demo for all 10 hours it's available here, so I'll be taking tons of notes.

 

[Shaya]

I think the main questions are going to be

Dash dancing? Dash cancelling, all that jazz.
Aerial landing lag?
Comparative range?
Dancing Blade?
Dolphin slash landings? can we edge cancel? Stuff like that
shieldbreaker? sped up? actually insta pops shields?
Check dtilt for IASAs, can you shield out of it or do we need to do attacks.
What's his jab finisher?

 

[Raziek]

Make a list of stuff for me to check, and I will do my best to check as much as I can.

The station is gonna be on 4-player, so I'm gonna have to stomp the randoms and then evade the last one while testing stuff lol.

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

Nah, it was dead before Ike.

Let's bring in a new thing to discuss, do you think that Marth's moveset should represent fire emblem more? Or is it fine the way it is.

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

I am sure Marth will be one of the best charcters in the game due to having better range in this game

 

[Pacack]

Let's bring in a new thing to discuss, do you think that Marth's moveset should represent fire emblem more? Or is it fine the way it is.

Definitely fine the way it is. Marth's moves already represent Fire Emblem surprisingly well.

Things this guy missed were:
Side Smash: FE1 Attack
Side A: (if I'm remembering correctly) Marth attack FE3
Fair: Mercenary attack FE3

 

[Raziek]

I am sure Marth will be one of the best charcters in the game due to having better range in this game

I..... what?

His range looks identical from all the screens I've seen so far.

 

[The Curious Volnutt]

Definitely fine the way it is. Marth's moves already represent Fire Emblem surprisingly well.

Things this guy missed were:
Side Smash: FE1 Attack
Side A: (if I'm remembering correctly) Marth attack FE3
Fair: Mercenary attack FE3

Wow, the dev team really does think of everything. Even the most obscure of things are referenced.

 

[Pacack]

Wow, the dev team really does think of everything. Even the most obscure of things are referenced.

No kidding. I respect Sakurai so much just for the references he puts into the games.

I mean, he's not the best at balancing, but I'd like to see someone try to put more references into a moveset that works.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

No kidding. I respect Sakurai so much just for the references he puts into the games.

I mean, he's not the best at balancing, but I'd like to see someone try to put more references into a moveset that works.

The P:M devs do a much better job. Let me qualify that statement by adding that isn't a fair comparison at all: Due to the nature of the PMBR's work they are in a much better position to properly iron out a character's moveset to be both referential and competitive, since they don't work with Sakurai's responsibilities and time constraints. See: Wario in PM v/s Wario in Brawl.

Anyway, a new topic to discuss: Marth's viability! It seems to have gone down the crapper. Best Buy players, prove me wrong.

 

[Shaya]

P:M devs do a much better job is an opinion. No reason to try and word yours as fact ~_~

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

P:M devs do a much better job is an opinion. No reason to try and word yours as fact ~_~

Fine. They do include many more than the official games, whether through movesets, taunts, costumes or even stages and other feature, factually speaking. As I said though, they have the luxury of time and YMMV with regards to quantity being 'better'.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Wario in Brawl and in PM are waaaaaaaaaaaay different to even be compared lol

 

[Moon Monkey]

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I hope Marth's not trash now due apparent nerfs. I don't wanna lose one of my mains.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

I hope Marth's not trash now due apparent nerfs. I don't wanna lose one of my mains.

As I said in another thread, regardless if he is nerfed to hell or not. I'm still using him

Even if Marth isn't as good as before. I'm still using him, I'm just so familiar with his style by this point, I started the style with Roy for crying out loud and the two are the reason I got into Fire Emblem.

Plus this Marth design is my favorite by far. He may not be that high on my favorite fire emblem lord list but in smash his style is just so fun to me along with many others styles.

I don't use him because he is high tier I use him because he is fun and that Fire Emblem has become my favorite Nintendo franchise since Melee

 

[Shun_one]

Did Marth perform a taunt that was not present in the demo in today's trailer? Right after Lucina's game-play sectionthey show Marth and Ike, Marth does an animation I have never seen before. I presume it is a taunt if only because Ike enters and taunts right after him.

 

[Shaya]

Aight, Sakurai confirmed Marth's viability being in the dumpsters by showing Lucina with a Melee/Brawl speed moveset. TIME TO ABANDON SHIP BOYS! We can either accept our slightly more manly Marth, or we can accept the Marth we've always been used to that's a clone of the Marth we know and love and isn't bad!

THIS IS ALL A DEGREE OF THE EXTREME MIXTURE OF SALT, SARCASM AND SALT.

 

[LordShade67]

So, apparently Sakurai mentioned in an interview that he made Marth and Lucina nearly identical in strength, speed, and special attacks(Not that that wasn't obvious). Assuming this is holding up(Remember. This is is SAKURAI we're talking about), a sigh of relief, or should we remain skeptical? or both, even?

 

[Shaya]

Keen to know there's a good chance Marth got some unnerfs.