Mario's most unhelpful moves

[Judge Judy]

What do you think Mario's most unhelpful moves are?

My top 3 are:

Dtilt–I never use it and seems slower than it should be

Dash attack–I use it sometimes but it doesn't help me too much

Up B–As an attack I almost never use it but it's good for recovery obviously


Notice:

F.L.U.D.D. is GOOD! NOT BAD! Don't you dare say it's one of Mario's unhelpful moves!

 

[A2ZOMG]

I rarely use the D-tilt. It just doesn't have enough range.

Honestly, I think Mario's Up-B is very useful as an attack, if somewhat situational. It's a fast option out of shield (need Tap jump on), and it has very good priority and very safe knockback. If I recall, multihit attacks are good against diminishing returns. The reduced landing lag on this attack is very very nice. If someone isn't expecting it either, I'll also use this as a last ditch effort to juggle someone. I personally think people don't use this attack quite enough.

 

[9crm10]

I disagree, Mario's Up-B is very helpful as an attack and F.L.U.D. isn't that good. Sorry to burst your bubble but loads of people agree.

 

[9crm10]

But I agree that is dash attack isn't that good.

 

[Dragonboy2k4]

I disagree, Mario's Up-B is very helpful as an attack and F.L.U.D. isn't that good. Sorry to burst your bubble but loads of people agree.

Hmm,wanna prove that to me via WiFi? Last person that said that is in practice currently learning/redeeming from what he witnessed..

 

[Death Hunter52]

marios up b is a combo breaker, it was in melee and is in brawl. it has an instant attack and a disjointed hit box. very good way to surprise your opponent. amazing speed, and i think that his most useless move is FLUDD!!!! lol jk (i said jk plz dont hurt me!) ((fludd is one of the things that make mario, if you dont think so then how are you doing in turnaments? and if your doing good then any pointers? fludd > space animals/lucas/ness/ike/lucario/pit(if used right)/and any move that has charging time (DK/ike/others i dont feel like naming) cape>space animals/DK/ROB/mario/toon link/lots of others and his worst move would be f tilt( it has not much range and limits follow up attacks). d tilt has combo potential if the opponent is startaled and dosent konw wtf is going on.

 

[A2ZOMG]

I disagree, Mario's Up-B is very helpful as an attack and F.L.U.D. isn't that good. Sorry to burst your bubble but loads of people agree.

FLUDD >>> Up-B, and I even tried to say Up-B was useful as an attack.

Ridiculous gimping potential is too good. FLUDD prevents people from grabbing the ledge, making them easy to intercept.

Even Boss will tell you that FLUDD is good.

 

[Judge Judy]

F.L.U.D.D. is awesome as a defensive move too.

F.L.U.D.D. = PWNAGE!!!

 

[Mario_ 101]

d tilt is good. you can do d tilt into d smash to rack more damage up before the smash, and they don't have a chance of getting out of it, unlike jab to d smash.

 

[Veggi]

All Mario's moves are pretty useful but my least used would be dtilt. I used think FLUDD was useless, then I noticed I was holding down the whole time every time I used it.

 

[Fatmanonice]

What do you think Mario's most unhelpful moves are?

My top 3 are:

Dtilt–I never use it and seems slower than it should be

Dash attack–I use it sometimes but it doesn't help me too much

Up B–As an attack I almost never use it but it's good for recovery obviously


Notice:

F.L.U.D.D. is GOOD! NOT BAD! Don't you dare say it's one of Mario's unhelpful moves!

I use Mario's Up B against edge guarders if I'm coming from below or when someone tries to crowd me when I shield and they have a decent amount of damage.

I would agree with the Dtilt though as Dsmash is always a better alternative.

 

[Matador]

Dtilt's useless?! Dtilt does 0-40% regardless of DI. Fludd's the most useless attack, all it does is make them wet.

 

[Help!]

i like up b i dislike fludd end of story

i only use fludd to mess around and experiment during tourneys and it actually can do some stuff like getting lucky actually gimping marth. but really you guys treat it like its a god and thats dumb. It does some things that are situational.

 

[9crm10]

i like up b i dislike fludd end of story

i only use fludd to mess around and experiment during tourneys and it actually can do some stuff like getting lucky actually gimping marth. but really you guys treat it like its a god and thats dumb. It does some things that are situational.

THANK YOU!

 

[9crm10]

Hmm,wanna prove that to me via WiFi? Last person that said that is in practice currently learning/redeeming from what he witnessed..

Yeah 1:00 Ill have my FC on my profile by then Ill get yours and PM u if anything changes, alright?

 

[BoTastic!]

FLudd to cape to Fair.

Fludd helps u just don't know how to use it...

 

[Matador]

Dtilt's useless?! Dtilt does 0-40% regardless of DI. Fludd's the most useless attack, all it does is make them wet.

This was a joke. Dtilt is crap. Fludd screws up recovery, spacing, and increases an opponent's airtime after a laggy aerial, giving you time to attack/grab. Fludd is an awesome attack. Those who say otherwise are noobs with it.

 

[COMMANDLIST]

Now that I think about it yeah I really don't use his down tilt at all but I'm trying to be open minded to it's uses so I won't give up on any of his moves b/c each has their unique purpose.

We all have to pitch in if we're going to make ''Mario the ultimate metagame.''

 

[Kanzaki]

My least used moves in order:

D.tilt - Carried over from Melee, I know Brawl's d.tilt is better than Melee, it's just a habit I carried over myself, never using d.tilt... I just prefer d.smashing as well, only time I ever used a d.tilt is when I accidentally cstick it, trying to d.smash.

F.air - Spike's too slow in my opinion, however, I know I should use it more often. I prefer using b.air, or u.air to edge guard, but I know I should spike as well, but that's just me.

Super Soaker - I use it when I mess around, or against characters it's effective against, such as Ness/Lucas, Ganon, Ike, and so forth... even then, I just use it to mess around. Character with crappy recovery is just too easy to edge guard, no need to use the super soaker when there's other options... however, others could say, "theres no use to use the other options if there's the super soaker", it's just a matter of preference/opinions.

 

[Mr. Escalator]

F.L.U.D.D. is awesome. Dtilt seems to be regarded as the worst, and I have to agree. Dash attack and Fair arent the top of their class, but arent completely worthless.

 

[???????]

Mario's Fair is very useful as a spike but I'd say my uses of the Dtilt and dash attack is minimal.

*Mario's dash attack has IASA frames near the end of the attack*

 

[bluebolt]

is it possible to use fludd to keep enemies away from items?

 

[???????]

I suppose so, but that question seems a bit vague.

 

[BlackBankai23]

I think Mario's dash attack is a great for certain reasons:

1 - even if shielded you get enough distance from your opponent to react (if you use it to fish out tactics)
2 - launching them can be followed up with a short hop + Uair or drop kick. You can even do a rising sex kick out of it depending on DI

 

[devil six 6 six]

up b is useless unless you want to recover!

 

[IR.O.B.edC.Falcon]

*Mario's dash attack has IASA frames near the end of the attack*

Really, into anything?

 

[???????]

Really, into anything?

Yes, but you have to go through most of the attack first; it's good for that reason, but punishable as well.

 

[studly]

d tilt is good. you can do d tilt into d smash to rack more damage up before the smash, and they don't have a chance of getting out of it, unlike jab to d smash.

exactly what i was thinking...i also noticed that in a few situations where i wouldn't have been able to get a hit with the down smash i got the d-tilt and then the down smash

 

[BoTastic!]

exactly what i was thinking...i also noticed that in a few situations where i wouldn't have been able to get a hit with the down smash i got the d-tilt and then the down smash

idk Jab to downsmash works better for me

 

[studly]

idk Jab to downsmash works better for me

jabs probably better i was just pointing out the usefulness of that particular move stead it being useless

the most useless i think is mario's dash...and im not even saying that even its completely useless ...im just saying i use it the least because it offers the least advantages

 

[BoTastic!]

jabs probably better i was just pointing out the usefulness of that particular move stead it being useless

the most useless i think is mario's dash...and im not even saying that even its completely useless ...im just saying i use it the least because it offers the least advantages

i hate mario's dash..

 

[Ori_bro]

dont use mario much but i think its U-air

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I've never used F.L.U.D.D. when I play as Mario. Just can't seem to use it effectively. Apparently it's the same situation with Squirtle too.

 

[BoTastic!]

dont use mario much but i think its U-air

yeah, u really don't use mario if u think his U air is useless

 

[???????]

The Uair is one of Mario's best juggling aerials and is one of his only aerials that can KO under 100%.

*F.L.U.D.D. takes time to learn how to use effectively but it's one of Mario's better moves*

*F.L.U.D.D. gives better pushback than the Water Gun*

 

[studly]

dont use mario much but i think its U-air

hahaha

 

[Messiano]

I disagree, Mario's Up-B is very helpful as an attack and F.L.U.D. isn't that good. Sorry to burst your bubble but loads of people agree.

Then you and those lots of people don't have the slightest clue how to edge guard and probably how to play.

 

[chingy]

fludd sucks i like to play around with it thats pretty much its and up b is good to me one example i find it useful is when a smash ball comes out when opponent in air and close to the smash ball like touching it use up b and the attacks will hit the opponent and the smash ball and most of the time it breaks cuz its like 7 hit if you get all the hits u can get with up on character

 

[BoTastic!]

fludd sucks i like to play around with it thats pretty much its and up b is good to me one example i find it useful is when a smash ball comes out when opponent in air and close to the smash ball like touching it use up b and the attacks will hit the opponent and the smash ball and most of the time it breaks cuz its like 7 hit if you get all the hits u can get with up on character

well u don't main mario so u probably won't see the full extent of fludd...

 

[E-unit]

Mario's up-B IS usefull. I use it as combo-breaking like escaping DDD's f-tilit and end up giving him damage. That pisses my friend off all the time.