@Nabe: I posted like two posts above yours that I think J would be your scumbuddy.
That's cool. I didn't ask you that.
If Nabe is scum then J is his scumbuddy. If Nabe is town, then Swiss and Gova are the scum team.
This is a very awkward setup. If I flip scum, J is scum, but if I flip town, J is absolved. Why is this true? In extension, is the opposite true? Am I town if J flips town, and scum if J flips scum? Why or why not?
Then, after we get a possible confirmation that J and I can be treated equally in this logic, why does a town flip from one of us make scum Swiss and Gova? Why is Circus left out in your eyes? If you've said this prior, quote it.
This all needs to be explained before my lynch. Do not pull a Fire Emblem, back up your ****.
The thing is though, Kuz is known to gambit as scum and as town, which is why I said it was a null tell on Kuz's part. If J knew that Kuz would do something like this, I don't think he would find him town for it which was my main concern at the time.
This is a good point. Is this the first time you've voiced this, or have I been skimming you?
Oh, also, @Nabe, I didn't say I wanted you to half-*** an answer. I just wanted an answer, and I would expect that answer to be half-***** if you're scum. You say you want people to build frameworks and post cases on you so that your flip will mean something. Contrastingly, I want you to do this, so that your flip means something. I want your opinions to be laid out on the table so that we can base connections on them from your flip. If you are town, this should not be something you want to avoid doing.
But see, this isn't my job, to make a case on myself. My vote would be on me if that were the case.
My flip is going to be meaningless by nature of the thing. My opinions are useless as well -- I have no insights to give, and I'm not a role with any info to crumb for my demise. There is nothing important for me to say, aside from what I'm already doing to souse out other people. It is not
my job to lynch me. It's the town's job, and other players should be encouraging those people who think I'm scum to make cases so that
their cards are out on the table.
I've asked you this before, Nabe, but have not gotten an answer—what is your read on Swiss? I would like to know because you might not be the lynch right now if we were able to get something going on Swiss, but you don't seem interested in him at all. Is that just because of how super townie you think he is? You would rather be lynched than go after him because you think he's just as likely to be a mislynch as you are?
I don't have a read on Swiss. I could tell you all about his playstyle and how it's similar and how it's different from previous games, but that would all be completely unhelpful. I don't think he's scum
with Gheb -- prior to Gheb's flip he looked a bit dirtier. Town if you want to put a name on it, and I would be unhappy with a Swiss lynch, yes, unless someone has something compelling to say.
Regardless of what your reasons are for getting a scum read on Gova, who is his scumbuddy? If you can decide on Gova with your gut, then you should be able to do the same for his buddy.
Prior to the mason claim I'd have said Glyph. A read between Gheb and Gova might not be amiss but it's quite possible there's nothing to see there. Two-scum team could be possible, except that we've seen some good PRs including a cop. Might be worth dropping the Gova issue.
Nabe first. If he flips scum, then we're in great shape because we'll have two mislynches and three suspects: Swiss, J and Gova.
Sidenote for post-game -- if Circus and Zen are a scumteam, you're doing a damn good job of it.
