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Mafia Royal Sleepover - The Party has been Crashed! Mafia Wins!

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I'm Princess Elincia, Vanilla Townie.

Zen, what was your logic for thinking that whoever didn't claim mason out of the two of us was scum?
... o.O

...My reasoning is that you guys are both so scummy but as a mason you obviously wouldn't be scum...


J hurry up pleases. And Nabe is the play for today. Unless no one is Chibo's partner. Then we can lynch him instead.


Circus & Glyph next.
 

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Nabe no need to explain the "which means he is probably town". I get that part. And yes you are right.


I'm bored.

-Glyph needs to answer my 3 simple questions.
-Gova needs to actually play the game for once.
-Swiss needs to stop buddying me, post some content, and stop coasting.
-J needs to stop disappearing, post some useful content, and stop coasting.

It saddens me that at least two of you are actually town (One being Glyph which is ok because of laptop issues).

Circus can you give an overview of your thoughts for d2/d3 and the bit you read of d1? And your thoughts on Gova & Nabe?


Me, Circus, Glyph.

Chibo

J, Swiss, Gova, Nabe


Hmm mm mm. The question is, is Circus really town 0.o? Who thinks Circus is town?

Thinks Circus is town: Zen
Thinks Circus is scum: Nabe


Gova: What was your strategy coming into this game? Have you played a mafia game in which you stuck with participating in before? What Kirby game are you currently playing? I forgot who you think scum is. Can you tell me? Have you been reading the flavor? Yes, that's an important question, as is the Kirby one.
 

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Yea, I was right as to whom I thought was the one who did what I thought w.r.t. yesterDay.

vote: Gheb

Easiest day ever, though why the hell wouldn't OS claim when things started going downhill yesterDay?
Unvote Vote Gheb

:059:
These two posts are 3 minutes apart and also Glyph comes out of NO WHERE to vote Gheb in which to put him into self-hammer range. Not even a couple of minutes later, as soon as he gets the chance, Gheb self-votes. Glyph "hops" on the Gheb wagon and causes us to end the day extremely prematurely.

'Hat' means I hate you but not really. But I'm sure you were able to deduce that and simply felt that you should respond to my post, yes?
What?

I was promised we could mass claim on d3. It's d4.

We need to know who Chibo's partner is. Who ever it isn't out of Nabe and Gova is scum and needs to claim. Swiss needs to claim. Everyone might as well.
What are you thinking now?

Neither Swiss nor Nabe is obv scum to me. Nor are you anymore.

As for why I'm not voting, I feel that d4 is no time to be throwing votes around unless I know who scum is.

Why I asked why you felt the need to vote is because you had no reason other than you want to lynch Glyph/Circus. You are not attempting to gain anything from the vote. You simply layed it there because you were here, just like you did with Nabe d2. Get serious and use your head. We aren't losing this game.
Not that I have expressed concern on both X1-12(Glyph) or Mentos(Circus) in the past or anything and actually provided reason to which I find them scummy unlike EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER BEEN ON ME. Seriously I am getting tired of coming into this game, getting ignored, called scum, and almost being lynched over the basis of nothing but that everyone agrees I am scum. Zen, you have yet to prove why I am scum and therefore and you have been vote hopping to what seems just to vote hop toDay. Maybe it isn't me who should be explaining my vote, but YOU who should be doing the explaining. What have you been gaining by voting Nabe/Swiss/Glyph all in a single IRL day? Get serious and use my head.....? What are you even talking about? Losing this game? What does that have to do with me besides you implying that I am going to be the demise of town?

And please actually answer when you get the chance.
Patience, good god.

Still want J dead.
Why?

Why exactly are people slipping away from J? We all found him scummy, and there has been no serviceable change in his play. Why do you feel I should produce reasoning to show my stance hasn't changed? The burden is on those who found him scummy but now don't, even though our cop was going to investigate him. Provide a sufficient case to change my view on J, and I will. But you won't. Try anyway, or convince another player to do so.
"Come on guuuuuys! We all found J scummy so why not go back to him!?"
"He hasn't been busy or not have the day quick ended or anything of that sort!"
"He hasn't been defending his *** all D2 or anything."

How do you even know OS was even going to investigate me?

How about YOU present a case why I am scummy because again NO ONE HAS YET! It's infuriating.

I'm fine with claiming so Switz can go ahead. Queen Bean, VT. Crumbed vig every Day of the game.

I'm inclined to think that Zen is scum because of his sudden jump to action around Gheb's lynch. Which probably means he's town, knowing my reads. I kind of think one of Zen or Circus is scum, based on attempts to take over the Day -- p.s. that's not a tell at all, just irks me.

Swiss deserves an honest looking at and should give an evaluation of the thread when he has time. Glyph replaced X1, yeah? Makes a good play imo. Did anyone reread OS yet? Best do that. Gova should do that.

I'm still semi-v/la but I'll be checking in all week. Things seem to be on a good track.
What? I mean seriously, what at this entire paragraph.

Unvote; Vote: Nabe

lol. Axel J, get on this. Swiss you too.
You.....are.....such......a......hypocrite.......

It's your mission this game to drive me up a wall isn't it?

I'm Princess Elincia, Vanilla Townie.

Zen, what was your logic for thinking that whoever didn't claim mason out of the two of us was scum?
I mean really Gova? Honestly? This is it? Not that you missed an entire day or anything and decide not to comment. Not to bring up the fact that you were one of the two people who didn't place a vote at all on D2 and helped cause the NL. Not that we lynched Mafia, had NKs of the Cop and Watcher. Not that there is ANYTHING to comment on besides claiming and asking a question that looks as if to CYA. Please become useful. Give us your town list and explain who specifically you find is scum and I swear if I see another fence sitting shrugging contest or you hopping on the nearest wagon, your butt is going to be lynched so quick it isn't even funny.

J hurry up pleases. And Nabe is the play for today. Unless no one is Chibo's partner. Then we can lynch him instead.
Hurry up with what?
Why Nabe? I want Glyph.

btw my character is like the duku princess or something if anyone cares. Need to check.
Yeah that's right.
No, if we are all claiming full characters and wanting to get facts right, you are going to do a proper claim since you had been craving one since yesterDay.

Zen, why in god's name is Glyph on your town list? Glyph's current play with X1's play beforehand is in no way a town tell by the least sense of the word.

I like Circus, alot. Idk I need to re-read his slot but from toDay's perspective he can live with Zen at the current time.

-Nabe
-Swiss
-Glyph
-Gova

Good god so many questionable people in this game at this stage in the gamee.

Does anyone know where Chibo is? He needs to tell us his mason buddy if he is telling the truth.

I'm comfortable with my Glyph vote and I'm sticking to it.
 

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-J needs to stop disappearing, post some useful content, and stop coasting.
You have got to be kidding me.....

Disappearing? Explain.
How have I NOT had any content?
Where have I coasted?

I just think you aren't even listening to a word I say.

Is anyone?

Hello?
 

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Yea, I was right as to whom I thought was the one who did what I thought w.r.t. yesterDay.





These two posts are 3 minutes apart and also Glyph comes out of NO WHERE to vote Gheb in which to put him into self-hammer range. Not even a couple of minutes later, as soon as he gets the chance, Gheb self-votes. Glyph "hops" on the Gheb wagon and causes us to end the day extremely prematurely.
I agree, very fishy.



Already explained this, so please go read. I mean you are just asking questions to ask questions at this point towards me because I have answered every question thrown at me and jumped through every single flame engulfed hoop as well.
If you already answered it, it shouldn't be difficult to quote exactly where you did. Please do and stop making this difficult. You're being so anti-town by just arguing with useless back and forths and AtE. Just answer my dang posts and leave out all the bs.

You claimed 3 reasons for not voting Gheb near the deadline. The third was false because you had been online and posting. The 1st one was no excuse not to vote Gheb when it was clear the day was going to end and no one was near voting Nabe. The only reason left was to piss off OS. Was this your reasoning for no lynching or do you have a better answer?

What are you thinking now?
Based on the claims? That Nabe is scum and I'll lol if Chibo doesn't have a mason.

You missed the quote above this. Please answer that.

Not that I have expressed concern on both X1-12(Glyph) or Mentos(Circus) in the past
You mentioned that you disliked them. That's it.

"I want Glyph tomorrow"
"Since I'm here I'll vote Glyph"

There is no reasoning. You're simply saying that he is scum and voting him. Just because Swiss is doing it, doesn't give you the excuse to play badly as well.

or anything and actually provided reason to which I find them scummy unlike EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER BEEN ON ME. Seriously I am getting tired of coming into this game, getting ignored, called scum, and blah blah blah Zen, you have yet to prove why I am scum and therefore and you have been vote hopping to what seems just to vote hop toDay. Maybe it isn't me who should be explaining my vote, but YOU who should be doing the explaining. What have you been gaining by voting Nabe/Swiss/Glyph all in a single IRL day? Get serious and use my head.....? What are you even talking about? Losing this game? What does that have to do with me besides you implying that I am going to be the demise of town?
Haha stop being so dramatic. I don't have reason to be voting you at the moment, hence why I am not voting you :D.

-Glyph vote was because there is too much inactivity. I wanted to see if voting him would get him to post more. It didn't and wasn't going to as you can see from his response.
-Swiss vote is because he promised content and gave none and has yet to provide any reason on you. I'd be good with lynching him.
-Nabe vote is because of his non-mason claim and his reasoning for thinking me and Circus to be scum. He didn't even read. He was just posting lol. It's the same as Celeb. I gave reasoning surrounding each of those. You did not. That's the difference.
Patience, good god.
Instead of answering, you just asked me the same questions in a fail attempt to make questions seem dumb so I assumed that you weren't going to answer, like you've done with most of this post. No need to respond to this line btw.



Why?



"Come on guuuuuys! We all found J scummy so why not go back to him!?"
"He hasn't been busy or not have the day quick ended or anything of that sort!"
"He hasn't been defending his *** all D2 or anything."

How do you even know OS was even going to investigate me?

How about YOU present a case why I am scummy because again NO ONE HAS YET! It's infuriating.



OMG really? This is textbook WIFOM and just pure idiocy this entire paragraph.



What? I mean seriously, what at this entire paragraph.
Not at me, but I'm on wiinet and it takes too much time to delete.


You.....are.....such......a......hypocrite.......

It's your mission this game to drive me up a wall isn't it?
As mentioned above. I gave reasoning. You didn't. You just placed a vote.



I mean really Gova? Honestly? This is it? Not that you missed an entire day or anything and decide not to comment. Not to bring up the fact that you were one of the two people who didn't place a vote at all on D2 and helped cause the NL. Not that we lynched Mafia, had NKs of the Cop and Watcher. Not that there is ANYTHING to comment on besides claiming and asking a question that looks as if to CYA. Please become useful. Give us your town list and explain who specifically you find is scum and I swear if I see another fence sitting shrugging contest or you hopping on the nearest wagon, your butt is going to be lynched so quick it isn't even funny.


Hurry up with what?
Why Nabe? I want Glyph.
Posting obviously...
You no lynched for Nabe and now you wont even vote him. Point one for my case that I would make against you that I am not making.


No, if we are all claiming full characters and wanting to get facts right, you are going to do a proper claim since you had been craving one since yesterDay.
Huh? Duku Priness, VT. Not sure what you aren't getting.
Zen, why in god's name is Glyph on your town list? Glyph's current play with X1's play beforehand is in no way a town tell by the least sense of the word.
Other than his post d3, he seems town to me. I think he should be replaced.

@Mod: Request replacement for Glyph.



You have got to be kidding me.....

Disappearing? Explain.
How have I NOT had any content?
Where have I coasted?

I just think you aren't even listening to a word I say.

Is anyone?

Hello?
I said useful content. Your last bit was ok, but I've definitely seen you play much better. I hate your laziness this game.
 

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Circus can you give an overview of your thoughts for d2/d3 and the bit you read of d1? And your thoughts on Gova & Nabe?
For the sake of trying to keep things neat and not getting too bogged down in what I feel is probably needless exposition, I'm going to keep my answer brief. Reading D1, I already knew kuz was dead and flipped doctor; for me it was just a matter of reading and figuring out how. I will tell you that after the point at which kuz claimed, I facepalmed multiple times. J's defense of kuz made me happy. Swiss and X1 telling the "real doc" not to CC did not (maybe my philosophy about CC'ing is different from others, but I think this was hella stupid and I don't know why the town followed it). D2 was a mess. OS turned Gheb into frustrated scum and Gheb tried to steer the wagon toward J. Wish OS would have just claimed if he was going to get on Gheb's case that hard, since we might have actually lynched Gheb on D2 if he had. Instead, we NL'd, and OS got NK'd anyway. D3, we all know what happened. Gheb got lynched (maybe quicker than would have been ideal for town). Scum is most definitely on his wagon, and, frankly, I think it would be smart to work from that pool for deciding the lynch toDay (but that's easy for me to say since I'm not in it, I realize).

Gova and Nabe give me my least town vibes next to Swiss and Glyph. I have found them both difficult to read, largely due to what I perceive to be coastiness and general lack of substance. I will say that I find Gova more likely to be scum than Nabe right now and I disagree with you that Nabe is the play toDay. There are several people I hold more favorably than Nabe, but I definitely want to see either Swiss or Glyph go before Nabe at this point, if not both.

I think it's my turn to claim. Whether it is or not, I don't care because this seems to be about as helpful as I thought it would be. I'm Queen Merelda. VT. To be honest, I thought she was a Kirby character or something, until I google'd her.

Zen, your second to most recent post is pretty much exactly what my scumlist looks like. I'll go back and read the posts I missed after dropping this post.
 

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Sorry guys. I just don't have the time to play this at the moment.

4 days IRL and I should be active again. I'm out all days in interviews or with friends now.

V/LA.

Lynch Chibo if his partner doesn't claim. Will replace out if general consensus prefers, uncertain on long term activity, but it should be OK.
 

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Well, I suppose it's understandable, but kind of inconvenient for me since my top two scum picks are now basically out of commission for a while.

I guess we can turn the focus onto some other players for a minute, but I definitely expect to be able to turn the spotlight back onto Swiss and/or Glyph (or their replacements, whatever) in the relatively near future. You guys aren't weaseling out of this that easy.

But until then, I definitely would like to know who Chibo's mason partner is now. If Glyph doesn't claim it, as I suspect he won't, then that means Chibo doesn't actually have a mason partner or that his partner has claimed VT (I'm guessing the latter). At this point, I think it would be better to just know who it is and I would like Chibo to be the one to tell us. I'm also hoping Chibo follows through on his promise to catch up and posts some general thoughts.

Nabe crumbing vig (assuming he actually did that; I didn't notice) is weird but not necessarily anti-town. Still don't really want him lynched. Kuz was apparently acting weird for no reason on D1, making people think he was fishy based on what is arguably poor town play rather than a scum tell, and we all know how that turned out.
 

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Why do you think the latter? His parter would not claim VT at this time. That would be hella anti-town.

We lynch Chibo if Glyph doesn't claim Mason partner & Chibo doesn't tell us who it is.

How you don't see Nabe as scum is beyond me. Though I should probably read the good half of D2 I had missed.
 

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Why do I feel the need to post here?

Just realized for absent individuals for the next couple of days:

-Nabe
-Swiss
-Glyph

Two people who just don't bother to post at all and expect to skate through all game:

-Chibo
-Gova

That leaves:

-J
-Circus
-Zen

Kay, this is gonna be like pulling teeth trying to get info out of toDay.
 

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Why do you think the latter? His parter would not claim VT at this time. That would be hella anti-town.
Now when do masons lie again? :laugh: /inside joke

Zen said:
We lynch Chibo if Glyph doesn't claim Mason partner & Chibo doesn't tell us who it is.
Now normally I would say not to lynch someone who claimed PRINCESS PEACH but then we just came from a game where the exact same sort of character was mafia (Celebrity for those who are outside the loop)

Zen said:
How you don't see Nabe as scum is beyond me. Though I should probably read the good half of D2 I had missed.
>:[
 

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Why do you think the latter? His parter would not claim VT at this time. That would be hella anti-town.

We lynch Chibo if Glyph doesn't claim Mason partner & Chibo doesn't tell us who it is.

How you don't see Nabe as scum is beyond me. Though I should probably read the good half of D2 I had missed.
I just think we have bigger fish to fry than Chibo and Nabe is all. I don't care if people are reluctant to claim mason or breadcrum roles they don't have for weird reasons. I care about relationships between players.

A mislynch would likely mean 2 scum 4 town tomorrow right?
I believe so, yes. But we're not gonna mislynch because we're gonna bingo some scum toDay.

*about 2 hours later*

Can I just say it?
If by "it" you mean "I am Chibo's mason partner," by all means. Would make my day.
 

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By "it" I am talking about Gova viewing the thread for at least one or two hours without posting a thing but had enough time to not just read/view this game, but other games as well.
 

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It's possible that he's working on some kind of huge post. I'm willing to wait, though I, like you, am not holding my breath.
 

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I wouldn't get my hopes up.

He's done this pri much all game long and has openly admitted to not posting unless asked questions and has not scum-hunted all game.

Circus, you with me on lynching Glyph? =o
 

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Def down with lynching Glyph, though I still think I would kind of prefer Swiss and I wouldn't feel totally comfortable with making a fist-slam decision when he's not really here to defend himself (and that now goes for both of them).
 

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I agree with your sentimentality.

I want Glyph. Could you convince me of Swiss? I'm for him as well but more for Glyph as stated.

Do you think we can show Zen why Glyph isn't town though is the real matter of the situation.

I really need to here from Gova/Nabe/Chibo/Glyph ALOT more.

Circus, why do you make me doubt the scum-read I had on Mentos so heavily?
 

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Really Zen?

Really?

I am coasting on through this game with with the wind blowing through my hair.

*kick*
 

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I agree with your sentimentality.

I want Glyph. Could you convince me of Swiss? I'm for him as well but more for Glyph as stated.
I don't know if I could convince you of Swiss necessarily being more likely to be scum than Glyph; I think they're kind of equally scummy. I would just consider the elimination of Swiss to be a stronger blow to the mafia in general, if he is indeed scum. Like I said, I'm down for Glyph.

Do you think we can show Zen why Glyph isn't town though is the real matter of the situation.
I wouldn't consider Zen to be inflexible. I just think he might be sniffing for scum in the wrong places right now—namely, Nabe. That said, Nabe should start making his presence known a lot more if he's town and wants to reach his wincon.

In fact, while I'm on the subject, I can definitely get behind him, Gova and Chibo needing to get in this game or fail the town hardcore. Glyph has at least given an excuse, and he's probably scum anyway so I can't blame him being too shy to play with us.

Circus, why do you make me doubt the scum-read I had on Mentos so heavily?
Good question. Probably because, like me, you got a scum read on him more for what he didn't do than for what he did. Most of Mentos' posts that I can recall were more about how he wasn't able to commit much to this game, whereas I have forsaken all of my real life demands for this and the new Pokemon Black. Like a boss.
 

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Most of Mentos' posts that I can recall were more about how he wasn't able to commit much to this game, whereas I have forsaken all of my real life demands for this and the new Pokemon Black. Like a boss.
*bro fist to Pokemon Black bros*

Kay thank you for answering.

Nabe or Gova to go first?

I am thinking Nabe, Gova is just useless as hell. Though I feel I have gotten more from Nabe....I'm confused and need to re-read Nabe.
 

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*bro fist to Pokemon Black bros*

Kay thank you for answering.

Nabe or Gova to go first?

I am thinking Nabe, Gova is just useless as hell. Though I feel I have gotten more from Nabe....I'm confused and need to re-read Nabe.
See, I would probably go with Gova for pretty much that exact reason. I feel like Nabe gives a little more. If Gova's going to continue being such a question mark, then I don't really care to keep him around. Do not like the idea of him being a variable in endgame.

Still the only thing that's really going to help me solidify my thoughts for most of the people left in this game is going to be more content from them. It probably wouldn't hurt for me to do a little re-reading either, but I would prefer to make pixelated animals fight each other right now. Will commit to looking over the past Days a little later.
 

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Why Swiss? Why Glyph?

Glyph, can you please explain to circus why you are town?
Because I'm Chibo's mason partner, Princess Daisy, ruler Sarasaland.


Nooo =o

Can you answer:

1. How much of the game you have read.

2. Explain to Circus and the rest of us why you are town.

3. Do you think the day ending early was a bad thing? If not, why not? If so, why so? Do you think scum was on Gheb's wagon? If so how many? Why did you not vote Gheb until others had voted? You came into day asking Gheb how he felt. Which is just weird.
All of it, though I'd be lying if I said I remembered anything at this point.

Just did

I don't really think it was a terrible loss to have the day end as fast as it did yesterday. I asked Gheb how he felt expecting him to try to defend himself, which didn't exactly happen. I didn't vote Gheb right away because, well, it didn't occur to me. I wanted to hear from him first, but when other people started voting I figured we'd just get it out of the way.

I actually have no idea is scum was on his wagon.

As for this whole timing thing with his lynch and my vote, it is nothing more than coincidental. I don't really have a defense against it, but do you really think a scum team would act so closely together? Yes yes WIFOM but I stand by it.

Sorry for the sporadic posts, I'll be here as often as possible
 

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Thanks Glyph. What all have you/x1 and Chibo talked about?



J please answer why are no longer willing to vote Nabe when he was the only person you would vote for d2. Makes no sense. And now you're saying Swiss is a better lynch?
 

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And by feel I mean fill but with ee's.

CHIBO/GLYPH: Are there any crumbs that you two have been mason partners? X1 seemed to have a different idea.

"Lynch Nabe, but have him claim 48 hours before just in case he is the mason." <--words of x1.
 

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Gova: What was your strategy coming into this game? Have you played a mafia game in which you stuck with participating in before? What Kirby game are you currently playing? I forgot who you think scum is. Can you tell me? Have you been reading the flavor? Yes, that's an important question, as is the Kirby one.
I didn't have a strategy. YT and Newbie 9. KSSU. I keep playing Revenge of Meta Knight as prep for my next small game. Well at first at thought Glyph but he's the only one that hasn't claimed yet which mean he should be the mason. If he's not then Chibo. I'm still fine with J going. I read the flavor but I can't remember it without going back to read it.


I mean really Gova? Honestly? This is it? Not that you missed an entire day or anything and decide not to comment. Not to bring up the fact that you were one of the two people who didn't place a vote at all on D2 and helped cause the NL. Not that we lynched Mafia, had NKs of the Cop and Watcher. Not that there is ANYTHING to comment on besides claiming and asking a question that looks as if to CYA. Please become useful. Give us your town list and explain who specifically you find is scum and I swear if I see another fence sitting shrugging contest or you hopping on the nearest wagon, your butt is going to be lynched so quick it isn't even funny.
Oh you. It was one of three people actually. Remember that time when you were V/LA for a lot of Day 1? Also, you should be glad I wasn't online otherwise you wouldn't be here toDay. Dang, I can't be unsure about someone's alignment?

As for scum picks? You and I guess Nabe. I just don't like the way you react/respond to people and it comes off as really scummy to me. Nabe is more of a suspicion really. D2 he thought Gheb was town and then does a 180 when Gheb claimed FF. He also said Gheb was increasingly scummy with AtE and stuff but when I read through it, the discussion kinda felt more focused on the claim and not the AtE and it just feels off to me.


Kinda skimmed the thread, few things that stick out to me.

How bout we ask his mason partner to convince him to look at others? Lynching because he will tunnel is a terrible idea. How bout we vig zen or something hmm? solves the problem.

Zen its not Nabe because Nabe asked for peach to claim.
Looking back this is probably why I felt X1 knew too much. It was because he is the other mason. This reminds me though, Nabe why did you want Peach to claim?

Skimmed.

OS, if we were to lynch Gheb and he flipped town, would you lynch J regardless?
This is Swiss' reaction to OS' case. This looks like Swiss trying to strike a deal with OS in which he would lynch Gheb in exchange for J the next day to me. Knowing now that Gheb is scum I don't think Swiss as his scum mate would have reacted this way. I feel that Swiss is town.

OS I didn't know you could actually be right ^o^

Doesn't matter who is lynched out of J, Nabe, and Gheb.

Uh I guess we can do Gheb first since the other two aren't as active and Gheb actually has a case on him.

Vote: Gheb
This is Zen's reaction to OS' case. The only thing that bugs me is Zen saying that OS could be right when Zen hadn't provided reasoning for his vote yet. I guess this is really more me and not liking votes before reasonings though. Zen is probably town too.

What are you blithering on about?

Oh right your measely attempt at a "case" (using the term loosely) that cracks the entire scum-team based off of fallicies, baseless conjecture, WIFOM, lies, spider-webbing, and other just blatantly wrongness.

Do you wish for me to destroy your work as well because that would be fun. In fact, I'm gonna grind into that piece of "work" as well.

Have you met Nicholas in here? You two have a similar tunneliness.

One thing I wanna point out, Gova agrees with the entire post by OS besides the fact he called him scum. Why?
This is J's reaction to OS' case. Not much to say other than he pretty much discredited right away. I think Gheb did the same thing too? In retrospect now that Gheb has flipped scum OS' case is pretty solid.
 

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I wouldn't get my hopes up.

He's done this pri much all game long and has openly admitted to not posting unless asked questions and has not scum-hunted all game.

Circus, you with me on lynching Glyph? =o
Wow, you are such a liar. Back this up with a quote. I doubt you'll be able to. Also what is scum-hunting to you?

Gova you feel me with rage.
Why is that? And you should have just spelled it correctly the first time.
 

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Swiss needs to die toDay. Or Glyph. But preferably Swiss first.
Making comments like this is really awkward coming from someone who just replaced in that we know nothing about...

Mass claim order should be:

Nabe
Swiss
J
Gova
Circus
Glyph

Reason why Swiss before the others is because he is very unknown right now and has been far too inactive. But really I don't care if J goes before him. Either or. Is everyone fine with this order? This doesn't need to be too complicated.

Circus, out curiousity, what made you decide to replace into this game? What alignment were you hoping to get and did you get it? Also had you already been reading the game before Rockin needed a replacement?
It's funny that you would suggest the mass claim -_-

Even though you're already claimed and such, and so am I, I feel like focus on this shifts some off of us since afterall, neither of us are confirmed yet.

Are we even at lylo anymore? I don't think so. Should we wait another day for this?

Regardless, Only 4 people voted for Gheb that Day (other than Gheb himself), and I highly, highly doubt Gheb would have hammered himself without making sure at least one of his scummates was on his wagon. That pretty much puts the list at Swiss, Glyph, you and Chibo. And I get more townie vibes from you and Chibo.
This is a really good line of thought, and makes sense. There are two main things with the lynch... His lynch was clearly some sort of plan since he self voted and ended it quickly, meaning his scummates likely knew about it. And if it weren't a plan, it's a tad too coincidental to happen to have 4 townies all vote him so fast. I wouldn't be surprised if another scum was on there. However you say you got town vibes from Zen, and I really didn't get town vibes from him throughout the game, especially day 1. Since you initially suspected 4 players among all others for this (which is fine imo), but since Zen is one of them, can you please comment on Zen's day 1 play?

I was promised we could mass claim on d3. It's d4.

We need to know who Chibo's partner is. Who ever it isn't out of Nabe and Gova is scum and needs to claim. Swiss needs to claim. Everyone might as well.
WHY ARE YOU SO CLAIM HUNGRY UUHHGGGG

WHOEVER ISNT OUT OF THESE 2 IS TOWN NEEDS TO CLAIM WHAT IS THAT UHG
perfect cover up for scum, an absolute metric ton of wifom, it's like you can't play a game without knowing everyone's role which is what the game is all about

I guess we have to lynch Glyph since he's going to be inactive.
Wow really? Everything is wrong with this. This is more like something you do day 1, not day freicken 4.

"Lynch Nabe, but have him claim 48 hours before just in case he is the mason." <--words of x1.
To throw people off? Same reason why Nabe (I think it was) crumbed vig but wasn't one, to throw off scum.

Glyph is my mason partner, Princess Peach and Princess Daisy.

Since Glyph has replaced in there has practically been 0 discussion between us in the QT. Between X1 and I there hasn't been too much, but some of the topics are first determining if we are both town and can trust each other (which Rockin was able to confirm because we are a town mason, not neighbors), he (X1) though DH was scum based on meta experience between the two of them and DH being more agreeable with ppl this game, he questions Nabe's alignment since Nabe asked for Peach to claim (and X1 knew I was Peach), us talking a little bit about Zen - me thinking he's a tad more scum and X1 thinking he was more town.

My two picks for the day are Zen and Nabe. While re-reading that QT just now it reminded me about Nabe asking for Peach to claim. That is really awkward. In any normal game I wouldn't expect a character from the flavor like this (Peach) to end up being a role. Why did Nabe ask for Peach to claim? Outside of it being a bad idea since Peach is likely to be town, why would "Queen Bean, Vanilla Townie" know about Peach? Makes no sense.

Further investigation: Check out http://www.mariowiki.com/Queen_Bean
Queen Bean is a freicken enemy from the Mario series lol, being a tough brute enemy from Mario, I have trouble believing that she is both vanilla, and a townie.

Vote Nabe

So Circus, what's your opinion on Zen's day 1 play? I still think Zen might be the other scum we're looking for, and if he isn't, then he played one of the worst townie games I've ever seen. The motive behind most of his actions can only be seen as him being scum. Also, he fits in line with your theory of some scum being on the Gheb wagon of the 4 of us (me, zen, glyph, and swiss).
 
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