Mafia Royal Sleepover - The Party has been Crashed! Mafia Wins!

[~ Gheb ~]

its a joke, thats what I did in YTMemes and thats the game which Gheb is trying to meta me from

Hey gheb don't try to meta me and if you would, why try comparing to the game when the entirety of D1 and D2 I was claiming to be N0 cop with a guilty

Even if you left out the meta part [which you over-emphasize anyway] all of my issues with you remain. Just because you made that claim in YT memes doesn't mean that I'm going to disregard the fact that you should be more constructive regardless of how you played your other games. The issues I mentioned above all still apply to the way you play and have nothing to do with meta.

 

[X1-12]

Ok gheb. My play so far toDay hasn't been constructive.

Problem?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

If you don't mind me thinking of you as scum it's not a problem.

 

[Overswarm]

note potential distancing between Gheb and X1 upon Gheb's flip

just a note, nothing seriously implicated

 

[X1-12]

I laugh at both of the above two posts.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Well Overswarm's post was worth a laugh, not gonna lie.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I thought the same. If you were scum, it would be with X1. Or would've been prior to that.

Doesn't matter, I've been misreading the game anyway. Gheb is at least more town than I thought. Gova is a better lynch toDay. Mentos still valid as well. Gheb lynch shouldn't happen.

Vote: Gova

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Should say "I thought the same thing as OS" if that wasn't clear.

 

[X1-12]

reasoning on gova lynch please

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

He hasn't posted at all and has generally seemed to be avoiding the thread.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Nabe, how exactly is Gova more guilty of this than other players? He may not contribute to the biggest issues at hand but at least he responds and can be talked to.

How is that any worse than OS sounding like a broken record [but playing the wrong tune], Zen playing toDay like a poor man's KevinM, X1 being evasive to almost every serious post, DH / Swiss / Mentos hardly existing and J being just flat-out scummy? Hard to believe for me you find him the biggest evil.

 

[Overswarm]

Better question:

Why can Gheb make a post attacking a multitude of players, but defend only Gova?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Because Gova was the only player being attacked, even though lots of other players deserve more scrutiny.

Duh.

 

[Overswarm]

FoS: Nabe

Also, Gheb is still the play for toDay.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb is still the play for toDay.

OS sounding like a broken record [but playing the wrong tune]

Hey, look what I found!

Upon OS scum flip everybody should note his weak distancing from Nabe btw. Looks a~wfully like a bus.

 

[Overswarm]

I'll flip town, so I can ignore that except for the fact you called FoSing someone with no statement prior or after about it a bus, which is pretty weak.

You seem desperate, Gheb.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm not desperate in the slightest. I'm obviously mocking your desperate attempts to turn each- and everything against me. Consider it a wake-up call but if you want to you can actually take my post serious because if I weren't so sure you were failTown that'd be a pretty obvious bus. Why else would you feel the need to FoS him [weak + distancing] out of nowhere, without even providing a reason other than the implication that people start to find him scummy [which is the whole purpose of busing]?

 

[Gova]

K, so here they are.

J - So my biggest problem with you is your town read on Kuz. It makes no sense to me because your logic is self-fulfilling imo. Kuz is himself and anything he does is something that he would do so it has no affect on his alignment and it bugs me how you could see him town for that espically since he was prod-dodging/coasting/inactive or whatever you want to call it and not really adding content till the wagon built up against him. It just feels to me like you might have known Kuz's alignment before hand. The way you came into the game didn't sit well with me either. Also, again, why did you want me to talk about you? Other than that I really have nothing agianst you which why I had you at null.

OS -

I get the feeling Gova is scum based off of J's play assuming a J scumflip, but Gova is actually playing very well as scum if he is. Completely unsure.

Lol, you think I'm scum based on someone else's play? You don't sound as confident when it comes to me. Surely if you think I'm scum there must be some reason for it, instead you just tried to justify it by calling me scum based on someone else's play. I still think you're town for now but your case just isn't that convincing.

Mentos - You haven't taken a stance yet this game have you? Can't say there's much to talk about with regards to you because you're sorta non-existant but you're falling into the prod-dodging and stancless pattern Kuz did yesterDay imo. I would be fine with your lynch.

Nabe - Lol, I don't really have anything to say about you either considering you're inactive. All you've done is openly admit to parroting Swiss and then kinda disappeared. Would be ok with your lynch too.

Gova is town.

You might as well explain your 180. What made you think I was town originally?

Gheb - Well, most of my read is kinda based on meta, from YT, where he was indy so he could actually scum hunt, but his posts were rather shallow in that game after a re-read of it and basically consisted of buddying an obv-town and suggesting things town should do but never actually follow up on his own suggestion, which I said earlier that I would be watching him for and, I don't feel he has done that. I guess I might be wrong but I'm still going to consider him town at least for the time being.

X1 - Like I said earlier, I didn't like how you called Kuz out as town for no reason and then flipped on him later in the day though, I can't tell if you were just being antagonistic to OS and didn't take your read seriously but that has been bugging me. I'm also having trouble finding reasoning for your stances. Null as well.

Swiss - You're still null to me. I don't have a strong feeling one way or the other for your alignment.

DH - He's town to me for his claim still.

Chibo - Lol, I forgot you were in the game. I can't remember who you think is scum at all. I had you at null originally and your mason claim hasn't done much to change it.

Zen - I don't know what to think of you now. I guess town still since I agree with some of your stances. Kinda confused on why you think Gheb is scum. Do you just agree with OS' case or is there something else?

 

[CT Chia]

These deadlines are freicken killing me
I can't believe there are still 9 more days -_-

 

[Overswarm]

Group of people discuss scum reads

Chibo complains about having too much time to discuss things

 

[~ Gheb ~]

J, DH, Mentos and Zen all haven't posted within at least 2 days even though J is clearly the play toDay, Zen / Mentos have both posted in BIM and DH had lots of time to fool around with his Domo avatar in the social thread.
@mod; can you please prod these people? I know for a fact that Mentosman, Dark Horse and Zen are not V/LA.

Mentos / Chibo / DH, what's your guys' scumlists like? Chibo, you should mention more than Zen and should do so before you leave for Pound V, please. Reasoning would be nice too. Same goes for DH. You two are riding your claims way too hard atm. Being "clear" by claim doesn't make bad play any less bad. Mentos, you only mentioned that the play is neither OS nor me. Well imo, that's hardly a stance at all because it really doesn't give us anything new to work with; not to mention that it doesn't take a genius to realize that.

 

[Overswarm]

We coudl kill Gheb and get rid of scum. That'd be cool.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Gheb isn't scum.
Lynch Gova, that kid is someone's scummate. J can be vigged. Or vice versa idrc.

 

[Overswarm]

Nope.

J and Gova are only implicated no Gheb's flip.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I disagree, obviously.
Implying I've paid enough attention to make that judgment, lol. But Gheb really just isn't scum.
Vigs need to get viggin'.

 

[Overswarm]

I don't know who the vig should kill.

But not Gheb. He should be lynched.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb isn't scum.
Lynch Gova, that kid is someone's scummate. J can be vigged. Or vice versa idrc.

No wtf, J dies toDay. You're only stalling the process if there's no vig in the game. Gova is not a play.

 

[Overswarm]

oooooooor Gheb.

Swiss you're reading. You want to lynch Gheb. I know you do.

 

[Swiss]

Hahaha.

Give me like an hour more to lurk then I'll whack in some psuedo content.

OS - which was scummier Gheb's reaction to the case on him, or his previous play? Would you lynch J and investigate Gheb?

 

[CT Chia]

J, DH, Mentos and Zen all haven't posted within at least 2 days even though J is clearly the play toDay, Zen / Mentos have both posted in BIM and DH had lots of time to fool around with his Domo avatar in the social thread.
@mod; can you please prod these people? I know for a fact that Mentosman, Dark Horse and Zen are not V/LA.

Mentos / Chibo / DH, what's your guys' scumlists like? Chibo, you should mention more than Zen and should do so before you leave for Pound V, please. Reasoning would be nice too. Same goes for DH. You two are riding your claims way too hard atm. Being "clear" by claim doesn't make bad play any less bad. Mentos, you only mentioned that the play is neither OS nor me. Well imo, that's hardly a stance at all because it really doesn't give us anything new to work with; not to mention that it doesn't take a genius to realize that.

Overswarm is annoying me the most by far and it almost makes me want to lynch him, but it's more of a null tell not a scum tell so I wouldn't lynch him. I don't really get the case on you Gheb.

Everything I said about Zen from day 1 still stands. Last time I had a growing case on someone and dropped it the next day they ended up not being lynched and going to end game and were scum, gotta keep on the cases.

I'm confused and irritated about J's town read on Zen - I know you've talked about it before, but can you talk a bit more about it plz?

Can someone please remind me of DH's claim? I'm sorry I forget it -_- I should have taken notes for this game. I'd like to do a recent ISO of him when I remember what it is.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

DH claimed watcher + roleblocked N1

I made a couple of posts on J where I tackled the issues with his conflicting stances on you / Zen if that's what you're asking about. Actually I even summarized them in one post, I can dig it out if you wait a sec.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

998 and 1012 are probably the posts that will interest you most in regards to J [especially 1012 if you wanna get more info on his relationship to Zen].

 

[Overswarm]

Hahaha.

Give me like an hour more to lurk then I'll whack in some psuedo content.

OS - which was scummier Gheb's reaction to the case on him, or his previous play? Would you lynch J and investigate Gheb?

His initial scumminess was enough to catch my attention, his further scumminess solidified it. I'd lynch Gheb today, then look into J and Gova.

 

[Xivii]

I'm not up for a prod.

 

[Xivii]

Can we mass claim yet?

 

[CT Chia]

Can we mass claim yet?

ok for real can we please lynch zen?

 

[Xivii]

It would make things so much easier. Like we would know who is scum between Nabe and Gova.

 

[Xivii]

Or you can just tell us.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Well Swiss, there's X1 and zen from yesterday.

However, there might be scum between OS and Gheb, while I don't like some of OS's reasons (Eg: How FF being Nk'd n1 points to Gheb. Frozen's rep alone is enough for anyone to nk him [This bit is also kind of like OS in community mafia iirc, not exactly best reasonings for attacking someone {Didn't he attack Swiss for not being serious during the beginning of the game}])

However, Gheb, your reaction was awful. You AtE, thenrequest an OS replacement or personal attacks? And then you say that you'll ignore him until he gets copped or lyncher? I'm not getting a town vibe from either of these.

As for why they're not budding buddies, iirc Swiss was town in community and,
More simply, I've found 2 other scum, and I think 4 scum would be too unbalanced.

 

[CT Chia]

Zen, you will never learn to become a good player as long as you continue to rely on claims, or you will never cease to be scum.