Lucina Thread [Closing]

[Robertman2]

I'm going to be the very best with Lucina, like no one ever was.

 

[Spartiatis]

Hello Lucina thread. As a person new to smashboards. I know it's a bit late, but I just wanted to say congratulations for getting the character you guys desired to see in smash bros. 4! I'm glad to see her in the game too.

I just knew she would be in the game. Many thought it wouldn't happen, but I called it! I was so happy when I saw her revealed in the trailer. I bet a lot of you guys were excited as well. I know I was and still am! Her and Robin's trailer was the best one in my eyes. (Sorry Palutena and Little Mac)

I'm glad both Robin and Lucina are in the game. I think they're very worthy additions and have every right being playable. I honestly don't get all the whining about her inclusion to be honest. I am ignoring it and it has died down a lot to it seems. I just don't get why smash bros. fans seem to get the most whiny over similar characters. I honestly don't think it was lazy in the case of Luigi, Toon Link, Lucas, and Lucina. It was intentional as they were put in early in development. And for characters such as Falco, Ganondorf, and Roy, it was because they were put in late as they had an extra month left to pad up the roster a bit more. One thing that baffles me that smash bros. fans don't seem to realize or maybe they do, they just don't bring it up.

EVERY FIGHTING GAME HAS SIMILAR CHARACTERS!! I'll give you examples. Ryu, Ken, Akuma. Very identical to each other and the equivalent to a Mario, Dr. Mario, and Luigi from Melee. Sakura and Dan Hibiki are essentially Luigified versions of said three. Yun and Yang are identical to each other. Scorpion, Sub-zero, and reptile in the first three mortal kombat games were similar outside of the specials just like Kitana and Mileena and were essentially color swaps slightly different poses. Jotaro and dio brando were similar in terms of fighting style in Jojo's bizarre adventure for Playstation with some Luigified elements. Casandra and Sophia in Soul Calibur 2 are very similar to each other. Morigan and Lilith are very identical. Of course in the marvel vs. capcom games, X-23 and Wolverine were very similar, as is Roll and Megaman to each other. In fact, they share similar hyper attacks in marvel vs. capcom 2.

I know it seems off topic, but I sympathize with Lucina supporters just like I do with the Ridley, K.rool, and Ghiraham supporters due to the lame excuses by detractors that don't want those characters in the game for lame reasons they make up (Too big, Rare owns the rights to him, one time character, etc.). And wanted to prove that smash isn't the only game to have similar characters and that it isn't a bad thing. Is it nice to see ground breaking new characters with unseen fighting styles? Of course, but similar characters have always been part of fighting games. Sometimes it can be lazy, but I think its done because it makes sense and to give that character a different gameplay style from the others that they like better. For instance, people preferred Roy's fire and slower speed and lack of tip mechanic. Or Lucas's easier to handle gameplay and controls (He's very unique and different when it comes to moves that are not special attacks by the way.) I prefer Falco to Fox in Brawl and I main him, I prefer playing as Luigi to Mario and Ness to Lucas. The similar characters are like that in their respective games, which makes sense for them to be similar. The only time I didn't like it was when it came to Ganondorf to Captain Falcon because Ganondorf has completely different abilities.

Honestly, it makes sense she's similar to Marth since fights similarly to him in awakening from all the research I've done. Just like it does for Luigi to Mario, Falco to Fox, Toon Link to Link. Which was a reason Sakurai considered making her a costume swap for Marth, but then thought it would be better that Lucina be a playable character (I'm glad he went that way myself. Expanding on an old idea you have which is the beauty of game design.) Just like how Toon link is a descendant of the Hero of time and that there is more than one Link and Zelda within the Zelda universe. I kind of expected her to be similar to him. After seeing CrazyhandMasterHand's psa of her in brawl (The 1.5 version) I really liked it a lot and made me want to see her in the game and I pictured she would play and fight similar to that version. I see people wanting Roy back and wanting Black Shadow to be playable with Ganondorf's old moveset. So seeing the fans complain about so called clones when they want those two things makes them a bit hypocritical in my eyes... (I wouldn't mind those two things happening by the way)

Of course, when new games that she would possibly star in and for the next smash bros. They would no doubt Luigify her a bit similar to how Luigi slowly changed within each smash bros. It honestly reminds me of that situation where Luigi was extremely similar to Mario, but started to differentiate himself when he started getting more games. I think the same will happen. I think of her as an equivalent to a new generation Marth. Where Marth was the one old fire emblem fans were first introduced to, Lucina carries that baton to carry the legacy a newer generation of fire emblem fans. And in a way, could be that mascot that represents a new bright future for the series and for new generations of kids and fans to come.

She's a very popular character, especially in Japan (Key word JAPAN!) Had a lot going for her that made her deserve to be in the game which many of you have said perfectly (The dlc, a female character, her huge role in the story, most popular female character in awakening, the advertisements, etc.) I'm sure there were other reasons for Lucina being in the game besides the difference in characteristics in attacks and abilities. I honestly think Intelligent systems played a big role in Lucina's inclusion. I know Sakurai decided Greninja before X and Y came out based on concept designs, but of course directors or some people aren't going to go into more personal stuff. I bet game freak had an impact on the decision to as he became one of the most popular 6th gen Pokemon ever and one of the most popular Pokemon ever among design and competitive play (My favorite Kalos Pokemon myself).

There's so much evidence that points to this. Sakurai said Mii's were put in because of the huge requests they got by fans to have them in and the fact they're a mascot and a very important figure to the new generation of Nintendo. And of course Miyamoto wanted to have Pac-man in since Brawl because it was his favorite character and because how he thought it would be cool to see such a historical mascot figure in the game (So glad Pac-man is in by the way). Lucina has huge requests going and Intelligent systems loved the character dearly and I don't blame them. As many have said, She represents a phoenix or butterfly. Awakening saved an entire franchise from hiatus or near death just like how R.O.B. saved the entire gaming industry and Video game history itself. Which is HUGE. That means a lot and you guys all know it. I didn't even know Awakening would have been the last game if it didn't sell over 250,000 copies until I read posts here. Thank goodness it did phenomenal. Perhaps it's too early, but I feel Lucina represents the impact Awakening had on the series.

SPOILER ALERT: When Reggie showed that concept image of the amiibo for different franchise it could possibly work with. Which fire emblem character was on their? Lucina! I honestly think that means something.

Marth represents the first lord ever made. Ike represents the first lord that introduced fire emblem into the 3d world. Lucina represents that butterfly of hope and that when fire emblems future seemed bleak and hopeless, the hope didn't die. It lived on! Heck relevancy doesn't mean anything for characters getting in either. Sheik is still in the game despite lack of relevancy. Heck Lyndis and Midna are assist trophies which says a lot for how popular they are, particularily among the western fanbase. Lyndis was that first lord outside of Super Smash Bros. that was introduced to the fans who played Fire Emblem 7. Robin represents the custom avatar feature which was a groundbreaking feature introduced in the previous fire emblem game for the ds (Japan only) that was expanded on in Awakening. As cool as Roy is, didn't have that same impact the other 4 playable lords had on the franchise and Nintendo as a whole.

While I think Chrom would have been cool and I feel bad for Chrom supporters, I think the reason Lucina was chosen over him because of the LONG TERM impact she has had so far on the franchise. I think that's a reason why they went with Rosalina instead of someone like toad or Bowser jr. Rosalina is starting to become a mainstay to the Mario series and Super Mario Galaxy had a huge impact on Nintendo and the Mario franchise as a whole. Look at how many recent Mario games have some of those elements that the galaxy games had with the space and star themes and some gameplay elements. I notice this with every newcomer so far, how they each made impacts on Nintendo and the respective franchises they come from in the long term. While Chrom is very popular to, the priority I feel Lucina had besides the whole Chrom not being unique enough was because I feel he's more along the lines of a Roy, Hector, Micaiah, or Leaf. Characters people really like and think would be cool, but didn't have the same impact a Marth, Ike, Lyndis, Robin, and Lucina had. It's too early, but if this keeps up which I believe it will, I wouldn't be surprised to see Lucina return in the next smash installment. Honestly, I believe they would bring back every newcomer from SSB4 as like many of the fans, they don't want to see any cuts and try to bring everyone back. I can already see the impact Lucina has had on the entire franchise itself and among Intelligent Systems. On Lucina's character bio, it provides a link to the official site for Fire Emblem Awakening.

Fire emblem to me is where Metroid was at when Metroid Prime came out on the gamecube. Not as big as metroid and granted, the Prime trilogy did better in North America. But still, it made Metroid an even bigger series and one benefit Fire emblem has is how it has done really well worldwide. In fact, the Lucina and Robin trailer was the most watched on the Nintendo Network and their inclusions boosted Awakenings sales. Which is fantastic! (Maybe it isn't right information, but I wouldn't be surprised if this really is true.) We got a Shin Tensei Megami X Fire Emblem crossover on the way as we speak!

I just feel Lucina and Robin are new mascots and represent a franchise reborn. The equivalent to a new generation R.O.B. or Lyndis (Lord of huge importance and impact on the series and someone representing an entire franchise saved) This is great guys, Lucina and Robin are that gateway to new generations of fans. I am aware Chrom had as equal of importance to the plot like Lucina and Robin, but seeing many posts here prove how both Lucina and Robin had the edge from points said about the dlc and other various story elements.
Especially among the Intelligent Systems staff.

Sorry for the extremely long post and if I may have broken any policies regarding this forum, but I really wanted to show my dedication to this thread how proud I am of you guys fighting through the tough times and to prove Lucina is not a waste of a character, but a very deserving and worthy character choice. I actually bought Fire Emblem Awakening a few weeks ago and can't wait to get to playing it when I get the chance due to college getting in the way. Now we just need the Mewtwo, Ridley, King K.rool, and Ghiraham supporters to get the characters they deserve. Especially Ridley and Mewtwo fans and I am a huge advocate for Mewtwo's return, but that's for another thread.

One more thing, another thing that already implies that She's different from Marth even though it could change is what the pro players have said about how Marth plays slower, and is more defensive based and no longer as fast of an aerial fighter. I do notice that in some gameplay vids to actually. Of course, once we play the game, there will no doubt be other difference players will notice when playing as them as well. I can't wait to play as her as she looks like a fun character to use and has that speed element I like in my characters with shades of Roy which my cousin should really like. I never was into Marth's tip blade element either as it's to technical and complex for my liking. Greninja and Pac-man are other newcomers I can't wait to main as well. How about you guys? Sorry if this is off topic...

Welcome to Smashboards.

 

[ihskeyp]

Seriously? No problem at all? I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. She is essentially wearing a skin-tight see-through robe with a bra and belt-skirt. Unless her design was censored to a reasonable degree, her inclusion would be entirely inappropriate.

She wears more than most girls do in the beach. Really, though, what's so scary about the human body lol. Anyway, as long as she only has a minor appearance, I bet they could get away with it.

 

[Reginleif]

Tharja / Owain assist trophy omg .

Owain can do Astra or something
Tharja can do some funky dark magic

 

[Pyra]

Oh, hey. A Marth figure!

 

[DACSHeyes]

Only acceptable choice for assist is Walhart. Or Basilio's arse.

 

[BeatNinja]

I want seven of them.

 

[Hong]

Owain can do Astra or something

I think Owain would be like "... I CAN'T CONTROL IT!" before slashing the enemies five times in succession.

I want to see some non-Awakening Assist Trophies since we got two characters and a game, and the series has so many good characters outside of them.

 

[GOofyGV]

@ Robertman2 sorry pal but I will become the very best like no one ever was!

Hello Lucina thread. As a person new to smashboards. I know it's a bit late, but I just wanted to say congratulations for getting the character you guys desired to see in smash bros. 4! I'm glad to see her in the game too.

I just knew she would be in the game. Many thought it wouldn't happen, but I called it! I was so happy when I saw her revealed in the trailer. I bet a lot of you guys were excited as well. I know I was and still am! Her and Robin's trailer was the best one in my eyes. (Sorry Palutena and Little Mac)

I'm glad both Robin and Lucina are in the game. I think they're very worthy additions and have every right being playable. I honestly don't get all the whining about her inclusion to be honest. I am ignoring it and it has died down a lot to it seems. I just don't get why smash bros. fans seem to get the most whiny over similar characters. I honestly don't think it was lazy in the case of Luigi, Toon Link, Lucas, and Lucina. It was intentional as they were put in early in development. And for characters such as Falco, Ganondorf, and Roy, it was because they were put in late as they had an extra month left to pad up the roster a bit more. One thing that baffles me that smash bros. fans don't seem to realize or maybe they do, they just don't bring it up.

EVERY FIGHTING GAME HAS SIMILAR CHARACTERS!! I'll give you examples. Ryu, Ken, Akuma. Very identical to each other and the equivalent to a Mario, Dr. Mario, and Luigi from Melee. Sakura and Dan Hibiki are essentially Luigified versions of said three. Yun and Yang are identical to each other. Scorpion, Sub-zero, and reptile in the first three mortal kombat games were similar outside of the specials just like Kitana and Mileena and were essentially color swaps slightly different poses. Jotaro and dio brando were similar in terms of fighting style in Jojo's bizarre adventure for Playstation with some Luigified elements. Casandra and Sophia in Soul Calibur 2 are very similar to each other. Morigan and Lilith are very identical. Of course in the marvel vs. capcom games, X-23 and Wolverine were very similar, as is Roll and Megaman to each other. In fact, they share similar hyper attacks in marvel vs. capcom 2.

I know it seems off topic, but I sympathize with Lucina supporters just like I do with the Ridley, K.rool, and Ghiraham supporters due to the lame excuses by detractors that don't want those characters in the game for lame reasons they make up (Too big, Rare owns the rights to him, one time character, etc.). And wanted to prove that smash isn't the only game to have similar characters and that it isn't a bad thing. Is it nice to see ground breaking new characters with unseen fighting styles? Of course, but similar characters have always been part of fighting games. Sometimes it can be lazy, but I think its done because it makes sense and to give that character a different gameplay style from the others that they like better. For instance, people preferred Roy's fire and slower speed and lack of tip mechanic. Or Lucas's easier to handle gameplay and controls (He's very unique and different when it comes to moves that are not special attacks by the way.) I prefer Falco to Fox in Brawl and I main him, I prefer playing as Luigi to Mario and Ness to Lucas. The similar characters are like that in their respective games, which makes sense for them to be similar. The only time I didn't like it was when it came to Ganondorf to Captain Falcon because Ganondorf has completely different abilities.

Honestly, it makes sense she's similar to Marth since fights similarly to him in awakening from all the research I've done. Just like it does for Luigi to Mario, Falco to Fox, Toon Link to Link. Which was a reason Sakurai considered making her a costume swap for Marth, but then thought it would be better that Lucina be a playable character (I'm glad he went that way myself. Expanding on an old idea you have which is the beauty of game design.) Just like how Toon link is a descendant of the Hero of time and that there is more than one Link and Zelda within the Zelda universe. I kind of expected her to be similar to him. After seeing CrazyhandMasterHand's psa of her in brawl (The 1.5 version) I really liked it a lot and made me want to see her in the game and I pictured she would play and fight similar to that version. I see people wanting Roy back and wanting Black Shadow to be playable with Ganondorf's old moveset. So seeing the fans complain about so called clones when they want those two things makes them a bit hypocritical in my eyes... (I wouldn't mind those two things happening by the way)

Of course, when new games that she would possibly star in and for the next smash bros. They would no doubt Luigify her a bit similar to how Luigi slowly changed within each smash bros. It honestly reminds me of that situation where Luigi was extremely similar to Mario, but started to differentiate himself when he started getting more games. I think the same will happen. I think of her as an equivalent to a new generation Marth. Where Marth was the one old fire emblem fans were first introduced to, Lucina carries that baton to carry the legacy a newer generation of fire emblem fans. And in a way, could be that mascot that represents a new bright future for the series and for new generations of kids and fans to come.

She's a very popular character, especially in Japan (Key word JAPAN!) Had a lot going for her that made her deserve to be in the game which many of you have said perfectly (The dlc, a female character, her huge role in the story, most popular female character in awakening, the advertisements, etc.) I'm sure there were other reasons for Lucina being in the game besides the difference in characteristics in attacks and abilities. I honestly think Intelligent systems played a big role in Lucina's inclusion. I know Sakurai decided Greninja before X and Y came out based on concept designs, but of course directors or some people aren't going to go into more personal stuff. I bet game freak had an impact on the decision to as he became one of the most popular 6th gen Pokemon ever and one of the most popular Pokemon ever among design and competitive play (My favorite Kalos Pokemon myself).

There's so much evidence that points to this. Sakurai said Mii's were put in because of the huge requests they got by fans to have them in and the fact they're a mascot and a very important figure to the new generation of Nintendo. And of course Miyamoto wanted to have Pac-man in since Brawl because it was his favorite character and because how he thought it would be cool to see such a historical mascot figure in the game (So glad Pac-man is in by the way). Lucina has huge requests going and Intelligent systems loved the character dearly and I don't blame them. As many have said, She represents a phoenix or butterfly. Awakening saved an entire franchise from hiatus or near death just like how R.O.B. saved the entire gaming industry and Video game history itself. Which is HUGE. That means a lot and you guys all know it. I didn't even know Awakening would have been the last game if it didn't sell over 250,000 copies until I read posts here. Thank goodness it did phenomenal. Perhaps it's too early, but I feel Lucina represents the impact Awakening had on the series.

SPOILER ALERT: When Reggie showed that concept image of the amiibo for different franchise it could possibly work with. Which fire emblem character was on their? Lucina! I honestly think that means something.

Marth represents the first lord ever made. Ike represents the first lord that introduced fire emblem into the 3d world. Lucina represents that butterfly of hope and that when fire emblems future seemed bleak and hopeless, the hope didn't die. It lived on! Heck relevancy doesn't mean anything for characters getting in either. Sheik is still in the game despite lack of relevancy. Heck Lyndis and Midna are assist trophies which says a lot for how popular they are, particularily among the western fanbase. Lyndis was that first lord outside of Super Smash Bros. that was introduced to the fans who played Fire Emblem 7. Robin represents the custom avatar feature which was a groundbreaking feature introduced in the previous fire emblem game for the ds (Japan only) that was expanded on in Awakening. As cool as Roy is, didn't have that same impact the other 4 playable lords had on the franchise and Nintendo as a whole.

While I think Chrom would have been cool and I feel bad for Chrom supporters, I think the reason Lucina was chosen over him because of the LONG TERM impact she has had so far on the franchise. I think that's a reason why they went with Rosalina instead of someone like toad or Bowser jr. Rosalina is starting to become a mainstay to the Mario series and Super Mario Galaxy had a huge impact on Nintendo and the Mario franchise as a whole. Look at how many recent Mario games have some of those elements that the galaxy games had with the space and star themes and some gameplay elements. I notice this with every newcomer so far, how they each made impacts on Nintendo and the respective franchises they come from in the long term. While Chrom is very popular to, the priority I feel Lucina had besides the whole Chrom not being unique enough was because I feel he's more along the lines of a Roy, Hector, Micaiah, or Leaf. Characters people really like and think would be cool, but didn't have the same impact a Marth, Ike, Lyndis, Robin, and Lucina had. It's too early, but if this keeps up which I believe it will, I wouldn't be surprised to see Lucina return in the next smash installment. Honestly, I believe they would bring back every newcomer from SSB4 as like many of the fans, they don't want to see any cuts and try to bring everyone back. I can already see the impact Lucina has had on the entire franchise itself and among Intelligent Systems. On Lucina's character bio, it provides a link to the official site for Fire Emblem Awakening.

Fire emblem to me is where Metroid was at when Metroid Prime came out on the gamecube. Not as big as metroid and granted, the Prime trilogy did better in North America. But still, it made Metroid an even bigger series and one benefit Fire emblem has is how it has done really well worldwide. In fact, the Lucina and Robin trailer was the most watched on the Nintendo Network and their inclusions boosted Awakenings sales. Which is fantastic! (Maybe it isn't right information, but I wouldn't be surprised if this really is true.) We got a Shin Tensei Megami X Fire Emblem crossover on the way as we speak!

I just feel Lucina and Robin are new mascots and represent a franchise reborn. The equivalent to a new generation R.O.B. or Lyndis (Lord of huge importance and impact on the series and someone representing an entire franchise saved) This is great guys, Lucina and Robin are that gateway to new generations of fans. I am aware Chrom had as equal of importance to the plot like Lucina and Robin, but seeing many posts here prove how both Lucina and Robin had the edge from points said about the dlc and other various story elements.
Especially among the Intelligent Systems staff.

Sorry for the extremely long post and if I may have broken any policies regarding this forum, but I really wanted to show my dedication to this thread how proud I am of you guys fighting through the tough times and to prove Lucina is not a waste of a character, but a very deserving and worthy character choice. I actually bought Fire Emblem Awakening a few weeks ago and can't wait to get to playing it when I get the chance due to college getting in the way. Now we just need the Mewtwo, Ridley, King K.rool, and Ghiraham supporters to get the characters they deserve. Especially Ridley and Mewtwo fans and I am a huge advocate for Mewtwo's return, but that's for another thread.

One more thing, another thing that already implies that She's different from Marth even though it could change is what the pro players have said about how Marth plays slower, and is more defensive based and no longer as fast of an aerial fighter. I do notice that in some gameplay vids to actually. Of course, once we play the game, there will no doubt be other difference players will notice when playing as them as well. I can't wait to play as her as she looks like a fun character to use and has that speed element I like in my characters with shades of Roy which my cousin should really like. I never was into Marth's tip blade element either as it's to technical and complex for my liking. Greninja and Pac-man are other newcomers I can't wait to main as well. How about you guys? Sorry if this is off topic...

That is some way to begin your legacy on smashboards sir! good read, this is basically what I have been thinking for a long time but I was waaaay to post it, thanks for doing that for me ;P

 

[L9999]

She wears more than most girls do in the beach. Really, though, what's so scary about the human body lol. Anyway, as long as she only has a minor appearance, I bet they could get away with it.

And that's why I don't have a problem with Tharja.

 

[RPGatWill]

Great post sir! I will mirror the words of a person more intelligent than I:

Lucina was lucky to make it into smash. Her inclusion was going to be an alt until Sakurai decided he had the extra time after finishing the main roster to dedicate to upgrading her to a full character. This was not a great amount of time, but it resulted in what I believe is a very viable character.

For anyone saying she 'took away' from another potential newcomer, the only thing she could have possibly taken away from is a different clone character and not a newcomer. Newcomers take a much longer amount of time because you have to make their move set from scratch. While I like some move ideas posted on these boards, I don't Nintendo reps are reading them and other fan suggestions beyond "We really want this character."

So basically: Lucina is in, it's awesome and everyone will actually enjoy playing her a ton when the game comes out, and haters be hatin'.

 

[dimensionsword64]

Henry: Makes a swarm of crows fly around the stage. If an enemy gets caught in them, Henry shoots a powerful hex at them.
Gaius: Only appears in item matches. Runs around picking up items and he can also steal items from opponents. He doesn't do any damage, unless a candy food item appears. If it does, he'll run towards it, attacking anyone who gets in his way and eat it.

 

[Ehn Jolly]

I have to admit, I seriously want a Walhart assist, just having him charge through the stage a few times on his horse, crushing anyone in his path like a TRUE conqueror.

 

[DACSHeyes]

The Whitewings would be cool too.

 

[Robertman2]

The Whitewings would be cool too.

Who?

 

[DACSHeyes]

Palla, Catria and Est. It's what their group is called when their enemies in Shadow Dragon.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

wait wait wait

when you're fighting lucina in arena ferox can she kill chrom

wouldnt she be killing herself

 

[Fire Emblemier]

wait wait wait

when you're fighting lucina in arena ferox can she kill chrom

wouldnt she be killing herself

Yes, she can, it defeats the point of why she goes in the past, if it happens. Yet, I wouldn't necessarily say it would kill herself, rather than kill her present self. Time travel has tons of different ways it work, but because of the perma-death system, along with some plot evidence, If Lucina kills Chrom she'll still exist because while all the events prior stay the same, it causes a timeline split where Lucina is still in the present of the game, but Chrom is dead (meaning the baby Lucina from that timeline will not exist), but since she came from a different timeline that is said to still exist, Lucina wouldn't be affected by this.

Another explanation is she causes a Time Paradox and destroys the fabric of the universe and everything with it.

Time Travel gives headaches when trying to explain what would happen "if this occurs". Excuse me while I try to fix my brain....

 

[Robertman2]

Yes, she can, it defeats the point of why she goes in the past, if it happens. Yet, I wouldn't necessarily say it would kill herself, rather than kill her present self. Time travel has tons of different ways it work, but because of the perma-death system, along with some plot evidence, If Lucina kills Chrom she'll still exist because while all the events prior stay the same, it causes a timeline split where Lucina is still in the present of the game, but Chrom is dead (meaning the baby Lucina from that timeline will not exist), but since she came from a different timeline that is said to still exist, Lucina wouldn't be affected by this.

Another explanation is she causes a Time Paradox and destroys the fabric of the universe and everything with it.

Time Travel gives headaches when trying to explain what would happen "if this occurs". Excuse me while I try to fix my brain....

 

[Robertman2]

Palla, Catria and Est. It's what their group is called when their enemies in Shadow Dragon.

Ahh... Haven't played Shadow Dragon.

 

[L9999]

Ahh... Haven't played Shadow Dragon.

I don't recommend it, it's bad.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Frederick killed Lucina in one hit in Arena Ferox

why is he so op

EDIT: is lon'qu good or does he suck

 

[Robertman2]

I don't recommend it, it's bad.

I've heard that from everyone.

 

[Skyblade12]

Frederick killed Lucina in one hit in Arena Ferox

why is he so op

EDIT: is lon'qu good or does he suck

Lon'qu is a fantastic character. He just can't deal with women.

A lot of people use that as for why Lucina beats him. But let's face it, Lucina is at full inheritance stat level already, she's more than capable of handling Lon'qu.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Lon'qu is a fantastic character. He just can't deal with women.

A lot of people use that as for why Lucina beats him. But let's face it, Lucina is at full inheritance stat level already, she's more than capable of handling Lon'qu.

Lucina beat Lon'qu because Lucina slays all the *****es.

 

[Robertman2]

Lon'qu is scared of girls. Lucina is a girl. Do the math.

 

[Skyblade12]

Just get them from the Challenge Pack DLCs in Awakening. They're pretty dang good units.

Even if they lack what would be their Assist Trophy move.

TRIANGLE ATTACK!


Although Rekka No Ken had my favorite version of that move: "Behold, the dancing wings of Ilia! Triangle Attack!"

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Frederick killed Lucina in one hit in Arena Ferox

why is he so op

EDIT: is lon'qu good or does he suck

I never used Frederick at all in any of my playthroughs so far, I have a moral code for not using pre-promotes not named Titania. So Lucina was quite the boss battle, as she can kill any unit that isn't a Jeigan/Oifey with ease.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

oh my god stahl was about to die and kellam saved him

 

[RPGatWill]

oh my god stahl was about to die and kellam saved him

Dual support system. It's pretty OP in this game, but it's also freaking awesome. ON a side not I recently decided to be insane and play through the game on Lunatic. I've made it to chapter 14 and have been grinding on the exp DLC for about 30 hours now. I might be going insane.

 

[DACSHeyes]

Lon'qu is a fantastic character. He just can't deal with women.

A lot of people use that as for why Lucina beats him. But let's face it, Lucina is at full inheritance stat level already, she's more than capable of handling Lon'qu.

Lon'qu is scared of girls. Lucina is a girl. Do the math.

Voila! His head hit her chest.

 

[Robertman2]

oh my god stahl was about to die and kellam saved him

And Stahl didn't notice.

Voila! His head hit her chest.

So... In my most recent playthrough, her uncle hit her chest.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Dual support system. It's pretty OP in this game, but it's also freaking awesome. ON a side not I recently decided to be insane and play through the game on Lunatic. I've made it to chapter 14 and have been grinding on the exp DLC for about 30 hours now. I might be going insane.

What's the exp DLC?

also yay I got Donnel does he suck

@ Robertman2 LOL

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Dual support system. It's pretty OP in this game, but it's also freaking awesome. ON a side not I recently decided to be insane and play through the game on Lunatic. I've made it to chapter 14 and have been grinding on the exp DLC for about 30 hours now. I might be going insane.

Casual or Classic. I wish you luck if it's Classic. I might do one soon, without any soft resets whatsoever. (I'm probably going to rage a lot)

 

[Skyblade12]

What's the exp DLC?

also yay I got Donnel does he suck

@ Robertman2 LOL

EXPonential Growth.

Due to the low number of enemies, and the speed they go through the map at, it's actually inferior to Golden Gaffe for training, though.

Dual support system. It's pretty OP in this game, but it's also freaking awesome. ON a side not I recently decided to be insane and play through the game on Lunatic. I've made it to chapter 14 and have been grinding on the exp DLC for about 30 hours now. I might be going insane.

I'm at over 250 hours, not including resets. You're fine.

 

[RPGatWill]

What's the exp DLC?

also yay I got Donnel does he suck

@ Robertman2 LOL

EXPonential Growth. Though most of the DLC come in packs which are a much better deal. EXPonential comes with The Golden Gaffe (Gold farming) and Infinite Regalia (Weapons... I think? I can never do this one right, as far as I can tell.)

Also Classic mode. Because I had to go hardcore. Usually I play on Casual cause I hate resetting constantly when I muck it up.

 

[Robertman2]

What's the exp DLC?

also yay I got Donnel does he suck

@ Robertman2 LOL

Donnel is one of best guys. You have to train the guy. Then he's amazing. Like Robin or one of the kids amazing. Also, who are you going to pair Robin with?

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Donnel is one of best guys. You have to train the guy. Then he's amazing. Like Robin or one of the kids amazing. Also, who are you going to pair Robin with?

I want to pair Robin and Lucina if I'm understanding you correctly. I also want to do Chrom and Sumia, but I can't really get Sumia to fight without her dying...

 

[RPGatWill]

Donnel is one of best guys. You have to train the guy. Then he's amazing. Like Robin or one of the kids amazing. Also, who are you going to pair Robin with?

Obviously he should go with Lucina.

 

[Skyblade12]

EXPonential Growth. Though most of the DLC come in packs which are a much better deal. EXPonential comes with The Golden Gaffe (Gold farming) and Infinite Regalia (Weapons... I think? I can never do this one right, as far as I can tell.)

Yep. The Golden Pack is designed for farming.

The Golden Gaffe is a map filled with Dark Mages, Sorcerors, Thieves, Tricksters, Fighters, and Berserkers. They all carry gold, depending on their level (level 1 = 1000g, level 10 = 3000g, level 1 promoted = 5000g, level 10 promoted = 7000g).

There are a lot of enemies, and Tricksters and Thieves give an Exp bonus, making this a fantastic farming map. The enemies just rush to the exit and never attack, but you have a party of ten with which to kill as many as possible first.


EXPonential Growth is filled with Entombed (the special Revenants) at levels 1, 10, 20, and 30. They give extra Experience, but there are fewer of them than there are foes in Golden Gaffe, you get fewer units to take against them, you start further away, and they rush through the map much faster (you only get about three turns to fight them before they're gone, if you're lucky).


Infinite Regalia is filled with a ton of promoted units wielding specialty weapons. As you start the map, Thieves rush up the side toward three chests at the end. Your objective is to just kill the boss (which you can do on the first turn with a good team), but the real point is to reach the end and loot the chests before the Thieves run off with the weapons. These are duplicates of all the "one time only" weapons elsewhere in the game, including the Bonus Items weapons and the special map rewards like Owain's unique sword and Ragnelle. The boss doesn't move, so just go around him and kill the others. Also worth noting, you get Eldigan (the only DLC only character without the unique portrait border) and a Silver Card, which reduces shop prices by 50%, when you win.