Robertman2
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It did with Ike!
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Hong
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We also know from Leif and Roy that IS are willing to impede the original plan, so even if Chrom was in the cards at some point, if they really wanted to go with Lucina instead, they could do that. Sakurai is certainly no stranger of IS.
Robertman2
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I downloaded it a few days ago, and it's fantasic. I still can't figure out to change the CSS data.
Edit: I love the absolute pessimism on the RTC about Lucina and Robin. Makes me laugh.
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The pessimism comes from how everyone thinks the people in RTC will rate Lucina and Robin. If anything, it may be a positive reflection on those characters' chances. RTC hasnt been super accurate considering Rosalina and Greninja's inclusions.
True Blue Warrior
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I'm more interested in what Lucina's want score will be. Will it be higher than Chrom's?
Robertman2
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Mine is over NINE THOUSAND!!!!
Reginleif
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Even the Project M devs prefer Lucina.
I can't with the Lucina and Robin pessimism. Why would anyone be here for Chrom when we already have Marth and Ike.
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Hokori
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Where I stand: While I have no doubt that they can make Chrom unique from Marth and Ike, I'm favoring character diversity. It's just about that time for it to happen..
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Same here. I don't doubt Sakurai's ability to make Chrom a total surprise with his moveset. But character diversity is a huge part of the Fire Emblem franchise and he just doesn't bring anything new to the table.
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You're talking diversity as gender diversity right?
Hokori
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Well, in Lucina's case it would be gender diversity especially. When I was referring to character diversity in my post, I just meant general diversity for Fire Emblem. Whether it's gender, weapon choice, whatever, just something different.
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I was speaking in general so basically physical and personality traits that make up a character
But in regards to Lucina, yes to gender diversity, which is a big deal considering how representation is important. Lucina's the female rep of the franchise, which arguably used to be Lyndis.
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For me, the gender is a valid reason for wanting Lucina over Chrom, but part of a greater picture.
Chrom's design is literally a more royal variation of Ike's attire. It's like if you took Ike, took away his muscle and mixed in some Marth. He even mimics some of the quirks that originated with Ike, like his obsession with having his sword in the ground when not in use at all times. On the other hand, while Lucina initially masquerades as the hero king, aside from being blue her outfit is completely different. Those slender boots, angular cuts, drooping and elongated pauldrons, absence of torso armour, etc. Especially different from Masamune's Shirow's depiction of Marth, which heavily-inspired the design they used for him in Smash 4. You could draw similarities between Lucina and the FE3 Marth, but that is not the design they used for Marth this time.
Chrom's design is literally a more royal variation of Ike's attire. It's like if you took Ike, took away his muscle and mixed in some Marth. He even mimics some of the quirks that originated with Ike, like his obsession with having his sword in the ground when not in use at all times. On the other hand, while Lucina initially masquerades as the hero king, aside from being blue her outfit is completely different. Those slender boots, angular cuts, drooping and elongated pauldrons, absence of torso armour, etc. Especially different from Masamune's Shirow's depiction of Marth, which heavily-inspired the design they used for him in Smash 4. You could draw similarities between Lucina and the FE3 Marth, but that is not the design they used for Marth this time.
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What did the FE3 version of Marth look like?
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Official art:
TCG:
For comparison, here's "Marth"
Lucina:
You can see where she got the idea, at least.
Robertman2
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I can see it. Also, why does Marth's Falchion and Lucina's Falchion look completely different?Official art:
TCG:
For comparison, here's "Marth"
Lucina:
You can see where she got the idea, at least.
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Because of the highly detailed reason that IS never bothered to give us
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Because only the blade is retained. The hilt has been reconstructed several times throughout the supposed thousand year history between Moshou no Nazo and Awakening, according to Owain. I would imagine tempering could also alter the hue of the blade.
Lamp-shading to justify art direction, of course, but that's the answer we were given.
Here is the quote from Lucina in her B support conversation with Owain.
- Lucina: Hmm... But parts of the sword other than the blade DO wear out over time. The guard and the pommel have been replaced over the years, changing its appearance. But it remains Falchion still.
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GOofyGV
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at least having a female character is something else then 3 male characters. Ike, Marth and Chrom are not the same character but sadly don't give players that much in depth FE characters, which is big for people that don't know the series.
EDIT: Awesome how I see this thread high up on the boards everytime I look.
EDIT: Awesome how I see this thread high up on the boards everytime I look.
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Robertman2
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Ahh... I don't think I did Owain's and Lucina's supports.
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cousins marrying each other omg. well in america its "companion" or something
Robertman2
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Actually, I couldn't see her putting up with his sword hand. She would probably cut it off or something.
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I wonder why there is a thread for Marth's alternate costume
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I would see Chrom and Lucina sharing a slot before Lucina and Marth.I wonder why there is a thread for Marth's alternate costume
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Really? in Awakening Pr. Marth is nearly identical to "Marth."
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Oh lord, I forgot about president Marth xD
But yeah, I agree that if Lucina is an alternate costume she'd be one for public relations Marth. Her build doesn't fit Chrom.
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Because none of the DLC characters have unique body types.
While there is no specifications for the character heights and stuff, Marth is actually really tall, maybe even more so than Chrom. What is more is muscle mass is roughly equal to him as well.
What I'm getting at is it makes more sense to have Lucina imitate her father's sword motions than that of Marth. Of course, Marth could get a mask like Lucina's just as an alt costume, and that would be fine just as an Awakening reference.
Robertman2
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God damn it. It's of those... we need a clever name for people who think Lucina is going to be an alternate for Marth, kinda like the 2bigots for Ridley.
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I do agree Lucina won't be an alt of anyone and shouldn't be an alt of anyone.
The Curious Volnutt
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Yeah let's call them logical people, okay I'll stop.
Robertman2
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If you value your life, you shall...
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I can't see Lucina as an alt costume for Marth anymore. Marth looks so much more bulkier in SSB4 and I can't see Lucina sharing the same shell. Nor can for Chrom.
And while at first I thought Lucina can be an alt for Marth (since Masked Marth duh), I realized how differently Lucina fights. I then felt confident enough for Lucina to be her own character. It makes more sense than having Chrom, who can better off be a Marth alt since their bodies are more similar and hell theyre both blue haired swordsmen of the same descent.
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I can debate Lucina over Chrom in SSB4 till the end of time. When the only argument a Chrom supporter has left is the leak, that's when you know Chrom is really undeserving.
And while at first I thought Lucina can be an alt for Marth (since Masked Marth duh), I realized how differently Lucina fights. I then felt confident enough for Lucina to be her own character. It makes more sense than having Chrom, who can better off be a Marth alt since their bodies are more similar and hell theyre both blue haired swordsmen of the same descent.
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I can debate Lucina over Chrom in SSB4 till the end of time. When the only argument a Chrom supporter has left is the leak, that's when you know Chrom is really undeserving.
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should Lucina not make it into the game, I will probably make a blue haired Mii Swordfighter and name it Lucina.
I dont have any problem if Chrom was in the game, and Lucina wasnt. I've grown to like Chrom from playing Awakening so much.
Interesting note: Yusuke Kozaki, the artist who designed the characters for FE13, had this to say about who his favorite character was:
"Lucina. Fire Emblem was already a famous series to begin with. I was designing characters based on what came before, but I've also had the opportunity to put my interpretation into it. Lucina is memorable to me because she felt like she was truly a Yusuke Kozaki-"Fire Emblem" collaboration." -Yusuke Kozaki
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2013...more-heroes-character-designer-yusuke-kozaki/
I dont have any problem if Chrom was in the game, and Lucina wasnt. I've grown to like Chrom from playing Awakening so much.
Interesting note: Yusuke Kozaki, the artist who designed the characters for FE13, had this to say about who his favorite character was:
"Lucina. Fire Emblem was already a famous series to begin with. I was designing characters based on what came before, but I've also had the opportunity to put my interpretation into it. Lucina is memorable to me because she felt like she was truly a Yusuke Kozaki-"Fire Emblem" collaboration." -Yusuke Kozaki
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2013...more-heroes-character-designer-yusuke-kozaki/
Robertman2
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Why is she on the list twice? Anyways, I'm glad Henry made the top 10. Also, whose in 30th and 60th?
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Robertman2
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I just noticed we reached 20 pages, guys! Also, whose in 30th? And 60th?
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30th is Validar I think and 60th is Raimi (the fort boss in chapter 4)
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