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That downthrow BURIES. Think of what possible set ups we'll get~
Seems about right to me. The multi-hitting PKT looks really good, the grounding D-Throw has potential, and a nice long tether is great for recovery mixups. Lucas looks high tier from what I can see. Don't think he'll be OP or anything but he does look like a good viable character to me. Don't see him being drastically better than Ness, but slightly better than Ness in this game is a good place to be.
Yes it does... but he had one in Brawl too. It was just reeeeeeally bad back then.Hey if Lucas can recover via tether doesn't that mean he has a Zair?
The range on it in this game looks great. In Brawl however, it was the shortest tether in the game iirc. I remember being thoroughly unimpressed with it.
That's... actually really clever. I will defininitly use that in the future.
Trust me, Lucas is going to have his bread and butter, too, just like every other character does in this game. You've already been conditioned by Ness' set up. He could be better than Ness, but he looked better than Ness in Brawl and wasn't if I recall correctly. I feel this character will be more combo oriented than Ness, which if this is true, it's something I'm going to envy to the point I may have to give Lucas Ness' customs and use him instead. D;
She certainly isn't as good as her trailer portrays her, as that's my point. I'm not going to disagree with you. Robin's case is even more prominent as people did think he'd be really good. He's not terrible, but he's not even above Falcon (most people believe this), even though Falcon was jobbing to him in the trailer.
Lucas had a great tether in Brawl. Pivot grabs had huge range and minimal lag, and tethering the ledge has pretty deceptive range. Plus it autocancels any landing lag. If it still does in 4, you can short hop air dodge and zair to remove the ridiculous landing lag after air dodge, which makes his mobility a lot safer. That's how I moved around in Brawl to work around his mediocre dash and avoid tripping.
Keep in mind that "tether" and "grab" aren't the same thing. Lucas' grab was perfectly fine, it's just that I found his tether lacking. Admittedly the autocancel feature was great, but the fact that it lacked a hitbox and had a super short range made it not overall exceptional for recovery and spacing purposes imo, which most tethers are used for. Then again, you say the range was "deceptive" so you may have had a better experience with it than I have, I dunno.
I feel like he's gonna be like Ness with better physical combat than ness. Which would be super cool
In smash 4 if you air dodge> tether, you still get the landing lag from air dodging. It's better to Zair directly.
Aren't the reasons why Ness is stronger in this game because SDI became weaker (thus making PK Fire better?) and the fact that his recovery improved like ten tons?
That's true about recovering, on the other hand I haven't played Brawl since like 2012 so I can't really say how Ness was including I used to literally think Ness was the hardest character in the game (as a casual) because I thought you couldn't recover with him.
