Lovers n' Friends Mafia | Ovah

[Kantrip]

like ill tell you right now i wanted off the bardull wagon and didnt have another scummy suspect so i went with a pressure vote

threw out a mediocre reason to jump on you (also wanted reactions from players like gorf who insisted you were scum with bardull, see if he would switch over or not)

suddenly youre up in arms because im "********" and youre shouting this way and that and threatening to do all kinds of crazy stuff and throwing sarcasm and ad hominems everywhere

all because a newbie is voting you for misguided reasons and i have a vote sitting on you

 

[Orboknown]

The game. What are your thoughts on what has happened?

Bardull vs gorf likely holds one scum. Gorf's actually making sense to me for once and feels more townie than bardull, as I feel like bardull just kinda threw gorfs name at the wall to see if would stick

 

[JeXs]

sure it makes sense that you just went with a pressure vote but then you gave a stupid reasoning that you yourself admitted is terrible. obviously that wont really help you

 

[Kantrip]

@ Orboknown

im sorry miss jaxen. i am fer REEEEAL

vote bardull

so this is modbot's first game ehh? i hope hes a success.

@ Maven89 if you screw up a poxf you can just poxf another poxf and use ebwop. just a standard colloquialism around forum mafia.

what about the fact that gorf voted for bardull in rvs and has been on him ever since?

youre calling bardull out for throwing gorfs name at the wall to see if it would stick, but gorf threw bardull's name at the wall before bardull had even produced content and was the first of the two of them to do this

 

[Orboknown]

Bardull vs gorf likely holds one scum. Gorf's actually making sense to me for once and feels more townie than bardull, as I feel like bardull just kinda threw gorfs name at the wall to see if would stick

Ebwop
Kantrip is digging at things, which bodes well for me. He doesn't seem like he's on an agenda, moreso just letting his thoughts roam and encompassing everyone.
Jexy needs to calm down as I dunno if this is jexy being scum and up in arms or being a 12 yo.
Rake seems more transparent than he did in ryker, which I like. I can see his thoughts flowing, more so than in most of his scum games
Maven is aight. Really only looking for one scum at a time here since one gets us both.

 

[Kantrip]

sure it makes sense that you just went with a pressure vote but then you gave a stupid reasoning that you yourself admitted is terrible. obviously that wont really help you

it helped me very much. it wont help me lynch you but that was never my goal. my goal was to read you, and try to read some other people while im at it.

the problem here is you think im scum so youre refusing to see my intentions from the townie side. i threw the pressure vote on you and let it simmer, but i never insisted after that point that i had a good reason to be on you. that was all in your own head. maven has a bad reason for being on you, gorf admitted his reasoning was all hinged on bardull and has now backed off of you, and im informing you right now that i never bought into my vote on you

so can you take a step back and calm yourself down so you can go back to giving some stances untainted by your emotions?

 

[Maven89]

Wait is Jex 12?

 

[Maven89]

the problem here is you think im scum so youre refusing to see my intentions from the townie side?

He doesn't think you're scum

 

[Orboknown]

@ Orboknown

what about the fact that gorf voted for bardull in rvs and has been on him ever since?

youre calling bardull out for throwing gorfs name at the wall to see if it would stick, but gorf threw bardull's name at the wall before bardull had even produced content and was the first of the two of them to do this

Thing with gorf is though, I usually have to let his pushes play out before I can get a feel off of them. Bardull moreso lets his votes be known why he's doing it even before stating them as directky a scumread

 

[JeXs]

.... Just gonna ignore maven.

 

[Kantrip]

Vote: Gorf

placeholder while you figure out your thoughts now that your dreams prophecized lazy bardull town

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@ Orboknown

what about the fact that gorf voted for bardull in rvs and has been on him ever since?

youre calling bardull out for throwing gorfs name at the wall to see if it would stick, but gorf threw bardull's name at the wall before bardull had even produced content and was the first of the two of them to do this

not sure if serious

 

[Kantrip]

Thing with gorf is though, I usually have to let his pushes play out before I can get a feel off of them. Bardull moreso lets his votes be known why he's doing it even before stating them as directky a scumread

im not saying i see bardull scumreading gorf as early as he did off a feel, but i am saying that that is what he is claiming and that it is totally plausible.

what is off to me is gorf throwing his vote on bardull in rvs and conveniently scumreading bardull later on so his rvs vote never has to move. especially when he claims his reasoning was bardull being less present/joking more and that him replacing out eases his worries

 

[Maven89]

He's just complaining because he thinks we're all suspicious of him for dumb reasons, not that we're lying to get a townie lynched. His posts state that he thinks our reasoning is dumb, not that we're scum.

but then you gave a stupid reasoning that you yourself admitted is terrible. obviously that wont really help you

Emphasis mine.

 

[Orboknown]

Wait is Jex 12?

I believe so

He doesn't think you're scum

Yes he does

 

[Kantrip]

He doesn't think you're scum

hes been saying bardull potato scum for quite a while, unless im forgetting the part where he admitted he was omgusing me

 

[JeXs]

because scum cant give bad reasons right?

 

[Kantrip]

not sure if serious

oh man i am so serious

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

what is off to me is gorf throwing his vote on bardull in rvs and conveniently scumreading bardull later on so his rvs vote never has to move. especially when he claims his reasoning was bardull being less present/joking more and that him replacing out eases his worries

this is incorrect

 

[Maven89]

Read my post above. Jex is clearly lying. He already forgot his supposed read on Potassium once, then forgot it again. If he really thought Potassium was scum wouldn't he have said something along that lines while arguing with him?

 

[Orboknown]

im not saying i see bardull scumreading gorf as early as he did off a feel, but i am saying that that is what he is claiming and that it is totally plausible.

what is off to me is gorf throwing his vote on bardull in rvs and conveniently scumreading bardull later on so his rvs vote never has to move. especially when he claims his reasoning was bardull being less present/joking more and that him replacing out eases his worries

Mmmmmmm
I see your point. I guess how he deals with chaco being in the slot will help with that interaction

 

[JeXs]

idk what you're saying but you're being really stubborn at this point

 

[Kantrip]

this is incorrect

please correct it

 

[Orboknown]

Read my post above. Jex is clearly lying. He already forgot his supposed read on Potassium once, then forgot it again. If he really thought Potassium was scum wouldn't he have said something along that lines while arguing with him?

You fkrget all the times he said bardull and kantrip (aka potassium aka potato) are scum

 

[Kantrip]

@Chaco being our shining star

 

[JeXs]

You fkrget all the times he said bardull and kantrip (aka potassium aka potato) are scum

nah he's saying i somehow forgot im supposed to be scumreading potato cause im scum

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

this is incorrect

this is also one of the dumbest reasons ive ever seen for someone scumreading something ever

 

[Kantrip]

fine with orbo and maven, think bardullslot is town based on everyone being fine with him dying earlier

jexs=/=bardull for sure

gorf and jexs looking like a plausible team to me

 

[Kantrip]

this is also one of the dumbest reasons ive ever seen for someone scumreading something ever

thats not correcting it

 

[JeXs]

potato where are your scum reads coming from and why are they so wrong

 

[Kantrip]

interesting connection between gorf and jexs

gorf calls jexs scum but bases it off of connection to bardull, when i ask if he would switch to jexs since he thinks they're both scum he has a premonition and switches read on bardull to town, thus eliminating jexs suspicion

i dont see scum bussing in this game because one of them dying means they both lose, but i also would think they would be careful with defending each other too overtly. by distancing in this way (attaching a connection read to your mate), you leave yourself a back door to retract that scumread

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

please correct it

how in the world is rvs voting somebody and then finding them scummy indicative of scumminess in any manner? i voted bardull cuz he was playing like a ****in nutcase and seemed like he didnt care about scumhunting at all. my premonition led me to think that maybe he just... didnt. and thats not scummy.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i also only said some of my suspicion of jex hinged on bardull scum. learn to ****in read mang.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

we seriously need a mafia theory discussion thread.

 

[Maven89]

You fkrget all the times he said bardull and kantrip (aka potassium aka potato) are scum

Yet he forgets that he's supposed to think Potassium is scum every time he interacts with him. Every conservation Jex has proves that he thinks Potassium is town. I'll quote them.

In response to Potassium accusing Jex

And you're being a ******.

Oh wait you're scum so Nvm.

Right there he forgets.

Then he argues with Potassium about why Potassium is voting for him.

its not the reasons being bad that make me mad... its being stubborn and insisting your reasons are legit that do

you just voted me for being focused on myself and left it there and you should know that that's a horrible reason to vote me

sure it makes sense that you just went with a pressure vote but then you gave a stupid reasoning that you yourself admitted is terrible. obviously that wont really help you

This all show Jex trying to convince Potassium that his arguments are bad and so he should unvote. Nothing in those lines relate someone thinking they're talking to an enemy player.

Gorf was your post about "dumbest reason" going to me?

 

[JeXs]

i feel like im playing with ami

 

[Maven89]

Unvote

I feel like my connections from Jexs to Bardull are the weakest part of my argument, but I'm still convinced Jex is acting scummy, from the beginning where he was the only one who didn't investigate, to his forgetting his reads, to him freaking out.

my read on him as a person right now is that he feels all of our reasons are stupid, but that we're going to catch him through stupid reasons. That explains his rage and childish anger

 

[Maven89]

And yes Jex, you have responded to my arguments. I just feel that your responses are bull**** wrapped up in pouting

 

[JeXs]

already said why your points are wrong but clearly you don't bother so whatever

 

[Kantrip]

potato where are your scum reads coming from and why are they so wrong

here ill show you

jexs
when pressured got hyper-defensive and called aggressors towards his slot ********. reads as inexperienced scum being abrasive towards pressure
called me scum me off of one vote with a one-liner of reasoning without trying to read into it. looks like OMGUS to be able to justify slinging mud at me while not trying to read anyone on his wagon at all
after me explaining to him that there really isnt any pressure on his slot and clarifying for him that i was just trying to pressure him and get reactions, his attitude does not change at all. youd think me telling him this would at least make him consider for a moment "oh wait so that terrible vote that i called kantrip scum for wasnt actually a vote and was just pressure?" at this point im not sure why jexs even thinks im scum considering he threw a scumread at me because of my terrible reason for voting him. with that gone he has no ammunition and clinging to a scumread proves that he is faking his reads

gorf
rvs voted bardull
bardull called gorf scum off of gut based on gorf's content in rvs
gorf progressed his vote on bardull to a real read and not just rvs. wagon on bardull picked up a bit
it becomes apparent that everyone is fine with bardull being lynched. gorf calls jexs scum with bardull for reasons he refuses to disclose until post-game.
wagon starts to dissipate a bit as people get deterred by the lack of resistance. gorf maintains his bardull scumread.
i ask if he would switch to jexs since he thinks they're a team.
this is when he decides to back off bardull off a "premonition" he had, and by extension his jexs scumread vanishes since it was purely a connection case

connectionsjexs got really defensive towards maven and myself when we called him scum. however, strangely enough when gorf called him scum he only asked why. gorf completely failed to provide reasoning, saying he would tell jexs in postgame. jexs does not question him further and does not seem perturbed by gorf's baseless scumread

gorf tried to distance jexs by calling him scum indirectly as a partner of bardull's. as soon as the question of switching to jexs came up, his bardull scumread conveniently vanished for no reason

jexs also attacks me after i back off him and say i was just voting him for pressure. i have since moved my vote to gorf and he continues to call my scumreads terrible and call me scum, chainsaw defending gorf in the process