Little Mac, W.V.B.A. Champion confirmed for SSB4

[IsmaR]

I feel like the thread title should be changed to something else given that Mac's confirmed now.

"Doc's Training Lounge" (copyright Banjodorf 2014) is probably better for Tactical Discussion once the game is out. (BEST NAME DO NOT STEAL )

Hmm....

OH! How about "W.V.B.A. Hall of Fame: Little Mac General Discussion"?

I was the one who edited it, for the sake of letting those who were not aware know, and didn't want to change it drastically without shinhed's consent.

If you guys want this to become the General Discussion thread, it is fine by me. If not, I would be more than willing to make one and sticky it.

 

[Morbi]

Yeah. Pretty certain the ridiculous lunge is the side special for exactly the same reasons. He needed a gap closer with all the close range blows anyway, and a regular short hop wouldn't cover THAT distance.

On a side note, could someone stop liking every single post in every thread? It's a little bit concerning, and it takes away from the actual (if limited) value of a number of likes on a post. Thanks in advance.

I apologize, it isn't going to happen.

Anyways, I also believe the ridiculous lunge to be his side special, I couldn't really see a dash attack procuring super armor.

 

[Bowserlick]

I think his specials might go like this?

B: Charged Punch, can cover distance. With a full meter, it turns into a one K.O move. I think the charge (holding B) and meter are unrelated.

Side B: A leaping dodge followed by a downward punch. The beginning and middle of the move acts like a dodge. * The fist glows blue. I do wonder if the meter effects the specials. His glove glows the color of his meter.

Dash attack: Might be similar in animation to the side B without the leaping effect.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

If you're in the mood to be happy, look up "Little Mac Reaction" on Youtube.
Have fun.

 

[GunBlaze]

the attack used to attack mega man is definitely the side special. he flashes before the jump, and has super armor while in the air.

It was invincibility. Super Armor would make the shot vanish

 

[8-peacock-8]

Did some research and learned that the KO PUNCH is actually based on the arcade Punch-Out. (Notice how the arcade machine is referenced in his artwork and the trailer? Yeah. Sakurai is using the arcade game and the Wii game for the influence.)

He has to attack to power up the meter but if he gets hit the meter goes down. Balanced KO PUNCH right there.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

Did some research and learned that the KO PUNCH is actually based on the arcade Punch-Out. (Notice how the arcade machine is referenced in his artwork and the trailer? Yeah. Sakurai is using the arcade game and the Wii game for the influence.)

He has to attack to power up the meter but if he gets hit the meter goes down. Balanced KO PUNCH right there.

It's based more heavily off Super Punch-Out's KO Punch I think.

 

[8-peacock-8]

It's based more heavily off Super Punch-Out's KO Punch I think.

The KO meter was originally in the arcade game. It's the actual influence for the game since it seems Mac was attacking Bowser and Mega Man during the charge up scene in the trailer and not just charging up the meter. Plus the obvious influence from the arcade version.

EDIT: But it does take ideas from the Super Punch Out version of the bar. (I looked into it some more)

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

We all know someone is going to make a combo video to that track!

Every match with Little Mac is gonna be a combo video.

 

[Koopaul]

After the loss of Starfy I'm pleased to have a character I wanted finally get in.

 

[ErictheLone]

from deviantart member daeron-red-fire

That site leaves me shaking my head more often than not, but this is pretty amazing. I'd love it if these were the alternate costumes, with the pink jumpsuit also of course. A green-haired wire frame alt would be sweet as well.

 

[grizby2]

What I like about it is that it confirms Melee's momentum. I know that characters got heavily nerfed in Brawl due to the momentum getting removed. So, the physics change will definitely buff characters like Captain Falcon again.

im pretty sure they made that move to match his dash speed, so it gives off the feel of melee physics.

when I think of melee's momentum, im really only thinking about how characters didn't lose momentum when they jumped out from running.
is there a video that shows something like that? im probably not keeping up with the latest news, but yeah. I wouldn't mind seeing the run-->>jump melee momentum again though, as that was one of the few things I really liked from that game.

 

[shinhed-echi]

It's based more heavily off Super Punch-Out's KO Punch I think.

They're both the same, actually.
But graphically, it seems inspired on the arcade version.

from deviantart member daeron-red-fire

That site leaves me shaking my head more often than not, but this is pretty amazing. I'd love it if these were the alternate costumes, with the pink jumpsuit also of course. A green-haired wire frame alt would be sweet as well.

Oh my god... That guy made one hell of a job there! All there needs to be done now is Arcade version(s) and pink Jogsuit!

 

[Banjodorf]

from deviantart member daeron-red-fire

That site leaves me shaking my head more often than not, but this is pretty amazing. I'd love it if these were the alternate costumes, with the pink jumpsuit also of course. A green-haired wire frame alt would be sweet as well.

WOW! Those are solid! Has anyone done Mac's default look with all the different circuit clothing colors yet? Oh man I'm so stoked to see that!

World Circuit colors OP!

 

[ErictheLone]

I like how Mac has bumped mega man from the top of the site. :D

 

[Sonicthesneak]

Found the Bicycle Training or just Training theme. It's really good. Can't wait for the Smash 4 version of it though. :D

About the Dempsey Roll move ... could it be Mac's Side Step dodge animation? I don't know if we've seen that in game yet. It would make the most since, as it's the closest move in Smash Bros that could represent Mac's original gameplay of staying still and dodging.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I've added the official render to the OP.

But I'm not sure what to do with it (the OP) XD
I guess I'll leave it alone just for the nostalgic value.

 

[Virum]

Yo peeps, I made an analysis thingy :3 Though I wouldn't be surprised if basically everything I've said has already been addressed. Nonetheless I'll drop it here anyway:

 

[Deleted member]

Loving that new SWF banner with Mac.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Yo peeps, I made an analysis thingy :3 Though I wouldn't be surprised if basically everything I've said has already been addressed. Nonetheless I'll drop it here anyway:

Great informative video there. :D
Sure did shed a little light on some of his moves.

I have a feeling that the attack he was trying to pull off on Wii Fit Trainer was a neutral air, but since I didn't see any other Fair worthy attack, it's safe to say it could be a Fair as well.

 

[8-peacock-8]

DOOOOOOOODS! MAX IS DOING A BREAKDOWN TYPE THING! YOOOOOO!

Ok i'll never do that again.

 

[Spinosaurus]

DOOOOOOOODS! MAX IS DOING A BREAKDOWN TYPE THING! YOOOOOO!

Ok i'll never do that again.

That's awesome. Always liked his Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 breakdowns.

Good to see Max being excited over a character in this game. He's one of the coolest guys in the FGC.

EDIT: Guess I wasn't the only one who caught the Steve similarity in his movements haha.

 

[Gallowglass]

I kinda share your sentiments here. His boxing style is really exaggerated, and there's definitely a lot of instances where he's out of balance lol.

I don't mind though, honestly I'm just glad his style is still traditional even if it is a little over the top.

After thinking about it for a moment I can see why they did that. Since Mac is so short if he did box more realistic then he would have very limited range. Still

Spoiler

 

[8-peacock-8]

That's awesome. Always liked his Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 breakdowns.

Good to see Max being excited over a character in this game. He's one of the coolest guys in the FGC.

EDIT: Guess I wasn't the only one who caught the Steve similarity in his movements haha.

Dat namco influence.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I was the one who edited it, for the sake of letting those who were not aware know, and didn't want to change it drastically without shinhed's consent.

If you guys want this to become the General Discussion thread, it is fine by me. If not, I would be more than willing to make one and sticky it.

I'd change the bit about "for SSB4" since he's already in. But what titles do you guys have in mind?
Maybe we can all agree on something awesome.

 

[GenericName]

After thinking about it for a moment I can see why they did that. Since Mac is so short if he did box more realistic then he would have very limited range. Still

Spoiler

Well he's 5'8" in the games...which would give him a range of about 2.8 feet. Plus alot of Mac's style is getting up in the opponent's face by dodging their blows. So yeah.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

DOOOOOOOODS! MAX IS DOING A BREAKDOWN TYPE THING! YOOOOOO!

Ok i'll never do that again.

Great breakdown.

 

[IsmaR]

Well he's 5'8" in the games...which would give him a range of about 2.8 feet. Plus alot of Mac's style is getting up in the opponent's face by dodging their blows. So yeah.

Considering Samus is just over 6' and towers over Mac as she did in Brawl (before the Wii size retcon), I think it is safe to assume he is closer to his original height of 4'8" from the NES game.

@ shinhed-echi - Sounds good to me. Let me know when you guys reach an agreement.

 

[Arcadenik]

If you're in the mood to be happy, look up "Little Mac Reaction" on Youtube.
Have fun.

Little Mac confirmed. Show the world my O-Face.

 

[Rasumii]

Little Mac confirmed. Show the world my O-Face.

This was pretty much identical to my reaction.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

So I guess we can expect next weeks' daily pics to revolve around Little Mac, elaborating more on his canon abilities.

 

[Arcadenik]

I'd change the bit about "for SSB4" since he's already in. But what titles do you guys have in mind?
Maybe we can all agree on something awesome.

Just put "confirmed" between "WVBA Champion" and "for SSB4". Simple and concise.

 

[DoubleYooToo]

Considering Samus is just over 6' and towers over Mac as she did in Brawl (before the Wii size retcon), I think it is safe to assume he is closer to his original height of 4'8" from the NES game.

@ shinhed-echi - Sounds good to me. Let me know when you guys reach an agreement.

Samus is supposed to be about 6'3, Little Mac is 5'7 in Punch-Out Wii.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Wonder if we're gonna be getting a KONG cameoing among the Punch Out crowd.
That's like a staple in the series!
It'd be amusing to see... say, DK Jr. who doesn't really have a place in the current DK franchise, neither is he a priority character for it either.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

The Mac is baa-aaaaack!
The Mac's our hero!
The Mac just can't be beat!

Little Mac, and the Punch-Out Adventures!
Coming to Disney XD,
February 30th, 2014!

 

[Little-Mac!!]

I think we should give the Opening post of this a makeover: Put everything we know about the actual mac in the game there, and all the fan speculation stuff in a spoiler under it. Anyone agrees?

 

[Popo Nana Power]

The Little Mac trailer was hnngg. X3 Best trailer yet.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hnngg

 

[jaytalks]

I'm a little late to the thread but congrats to everyone on this thread. The trailer was great!

I hope the art style is a sign of things to come for the character, with maybe a new game in the pipeline.

 

[turtlelink]

Man, I loved that comic book styled intro. So hyped for Little Mac. Also, hope Doc appears in the background or at least in Mac's taunts...

 

[Aqua Rock X]

I realize I am hyper late in saying congrats, but I wanted to wait until the wildfire died down a bit.

Seriously though, congratulations Mac fans! I know you guys have been scratching that Little Mac itch for years and now he's finally ready. Think of it as years of training for this particular time (that would explain why he is so broken in the trailer).

Speaking of which I'll be the first to admit that I never really agreed with Little Mac's inclusion but that trailer changed my perspective completely. What an amazing display of ability and raw power! He looks to be a very interesting character.