Little Mac, W.V.B.A. Champion confirmed for SSB4

[Opossum]

Maybe he can have both? You know classic Boxing Ring for the starter stage, while the training montage is an unlcokable stage.

 

[BirthNote]

Hey, since Mac always manages to put opponents in a daze when he hits them, maybe they could give him some good hitstun jabs?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Good hitstun, nice damage building moves, but some slight troubles in finishing opponents off is a playstyle I'd think suits Mac best.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I really think Little Mac should be a Captain Falcon powerhouse, making him less than a power house seems off. He would be like a faster Ganondorf, only lighter.

 

[Diddy Kong]

A faster Ganondorf..?

 

[Deleted member]

Mac isn't really known for being a powerhouse, so being a faster Ganondorf (which would be broken if not done right) does not make sense.

Yes, he has a few strong hits like the Star Punch, but he is not known for his strength, as it takes quite a few hits to knock down most of his opponents.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I really think Little Mac should be a Captain Falcon powerhouse, making him less than a power house seems off. He would be like a faster Ganondorf, only lighter.

Not exactly the best move to make. Around Captain Falcon's power seems about right, in general.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Sans the strenght Falcon has on The Knee of Justice or Falcon Punch. Then yeah, that could work.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I would like to see Little Mac as a somewhat weak hitter, but combo-racker and also several daze-inducing moves. After all, leaving opponents dizzy is what he does best at his game.
Must also be fast. Perhaps around Sheik fast if not slightly slower.

Naturally I'd love him to have a good finisher move or two, or three. A Marth Up+B move would be awesome with his signature uppercut.

And a counterpunch is a must. Wonder if he'd do well having the usual boxing fighter move where he dodges first, and strikes second. (Valeria from KOF or Dudley from SFIII)

 

[Diddy Kong]

Seems like people don't really agree with the style Little Mac should have.

 

[FalKoopa]

Seems like people don't really agree with the style I thinkLittle Mac should have.

This is what you meant, isn't it?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

The Pink Jogging Suit for the Alt Costume

 

[Deleted member]

Real men wear pink.
Especially pink hoodies.

 

[Diddy Kong]

This is what you meant, isn't it?

Not at all.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Real men wear pink.
Especially pink hoodies.

Indeed

 

[Gallowglass]

I would like to see Little Mac as a somewhat weak hitter, but combo-racker and also several daze-inducing moves. After all, leaving opponents dizzy is what he does best at his game.
Must also be fast. Perhaps around Sheik fast if not slightly slower.

Naturally I'd love him to have a good finisher move or two, or three. A Marth Up+B move would be awesome with his signature uppercut.

And a counterpunch is a must. Wonder if he'd do well having the usual boxing fighter move where he dodges first, and strikes second. (Valeria from KOF or Dudley from SFIII)

I agree with this idea.

 

[Banjodorf]

Aw man, playing Punch-Out again since it came out on the Wii U VC makes me even more hyped for Mac in Smash. Such a classic game, man.

I'd also like to say the Punch-Out Miiverse community is filled with "MAC FOR SM4SH!" etc. etc. so I'd say it's not going to go unnoticed either.

Edit: That, and it occured to me that if they're going to keep making the Mother series Japan-only (We got Punch-Out while they got Earthbound), then if Mother gets to have characters in Smash, we'd better get Little Mac. Honestly.

 

[PikaJew]

His assist trophy in Brawl is basically already a character.

He uses an up b, and two other specials.

I think it would be really easy for him to be a new addition, and if he moves the way he does as an assist trophy, that would make him a very unique character.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

More recolors by X Naut Shroober!!!

These are some of my favorites!

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I really like the bottom right one. The colors look like they were actually in Punch-Out.

 

[Banjodorf]

I LOVE the top-middle one. So much. That's gon' be my color, real talk.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I really like the bottom right one. The colors look like they were actually in Punch-Out.

They were based on actual colors from Punch Out!!

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

...nevermind then.

 

[Banjodorf]

They were based on actual colors from Punch Out!!

That just makes them all the more likely to be actual colors, and makes me no less of a fan!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I just noticed that the one of the top right is Doc Louis!

Why didn't I notice that before?

 

[N3ON]

Good recolours, but as long as Mac gets the pink hoodie as an alt, I'll be satisfied.

 

[Arcadenik]

Aw man, playing Punch-Out again since it came out on the Wii U VC makes me even more hyped for Mac in Smash. Such a classic game, man.

I'd also like to say the Punch-Out Miiverse community is filled with "MAC FOR SM4SH!" etc. etc. so I'd say it's not going to go unnoticed either.

Edit: That, and it occured to me that if they're going to keep making the Mother series Japan-only (We got Punch-Out while they got Earthbound), then if Mother gets to have characters in Smash, we'd better get Little Mac. Honestly.

This.

If Japan gets two Mother characters, I hope the West gets one or two Punch-Out!! characters - Little Mac and King Hippo.

 

[N3ON]

This.

If Japan gets two Mother characters, I hope the West gets one or two Punch-Out!! characters - Little Mac and King Hippo.

If only we were equal to Japan... to Japan.

 

[Banjodorf]

If only we were equal to Japan... to Japan.

Well, I think the sheer sales numbers should at least give us Mac. Well that, and all the other things he has going for him. (Which is basically everything except Japanese popularity.)

Edit: Considering we're now important enough to get Pokemon at the same time as Japan, I think they'll be giving us more attention for Smash. Just a thought.

 

[SmashChu]

Well, I think the sheer sales numbers should at least give us Mac. Well that, and all the other things he has going for him. (Which is basically everything except Japanese popularity.)

Edit: Considering we're now important enough to get Pokemon at the same time as Japan, I think they'll be giving us more attention for Smash. Just a thought.

Our opinions do matter. A lot of Brawl's characters were popular over here. I think the only exception to this was the lack of Ridley, but there is a reason he got two boss battle.

Japanese popularity is not an issue. He's popular enough here that Japanese fans recognize it. Most of the characters that are popular in Japan are popular here,so there is never that much of an issue. Ridley, Little Mac and Issac are the most popular characters in the US that are not that popular in Japan.

 

[Banjodorf]

Our opinions do matter. A lot of Brawl's characters were popular over here. I think the only exception to this was the lack of Ridley, but there is a reason he got two boss battle.

Japanese popularity is not an issue. He's popular enough here that Japanese fans recognize it. Most of the characters that are popular in Japan are popular here,so there is never that much of an issue. Ridley, Little Mac and Issac are the most popular characters in the US that are not that popular in Japan.

Heh, that's true enough. It's nice to see that the U.S. and Japanese lists nearly match up on so many points too. Oh, the information age.

 

[SmashChu]

Heh, that's true enough. It's nice to see that the U.S. and Japanese lists nearly match up on so many points too. Oh, the information age.

I think the reason is that the character is strong in general, so everyone likes. Differences are strictly cultural.

 

[Arcadenik]

I think the reason is that the character is strong in general, so everyone likes. Differences are strictly cultural.

Yeah. Cultural differences. Boxing is more popular in United States... not sure how popular boxing is in Japan but it is not sumo wrestling after all... that probably contributes to the size differences of Punch-Out!! fanbases in both countries.

 

[FalKoopa]

Yeah. Cultural differences. Boxing is more popular in United States... not sure how popular boxing is in Japan but it is not sumo wrestling after all... that probably contributes to the size differences of Punch-Out!! fanbases in both countries.

Little Mac vs. Mallo.

 

[TheKalmarKing]

Hajime no Ippo is a well-known boxing manga in Japan. It's not as popular as baseball and sumo wrestling, but it's still popular.

 

[FlareHabanero]

One thing to remember that regardless of what, cultural barriers are not a problem. it seems like the concern with Little Mac is more along the lines of a move set. He's a boxer, which are by rule not supposed to preform certain actions like tackling and kicking (disregarding the skewed rules from the W.V.B.A.). But I will say that, in my opinion, having something practical over something flashy is better.

 

[FalKoopa]

I think Little Mac should have a counter move.

@Habanero
I remember Kuma had made a moveset for him. Though it's buried somewhere in the Roster Discussion Thread.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I think Little Mac should have a counter move.

What if he had a counter move that worked in a different way than we are used to? Perhaps something like a dodge counter that would build up over time, say for instance that the more consecutive hits mac dodges without countering back with a hit himself the higher the offensive end of the counter will eventually be when he unleashes it. High risk, but high reward, he can rack up dodges while powering up the eventual counter, or flurry depending on what kind of hit it is.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

What if he had a counter move that worked in a different way than we are used to? Perhaps something like a dodge counter that would build up over time, say for instance that the more consecutive hits mac dodges without countering back with a hit himself the higher the offensive end of the counter will eventually be when he unleashes it. High risk, but high reward, he can rack up dodges while powering up the eventual counter, or flurry depending on what kind of hit it is.

That's essentially based off of Boxing as a sport. I like that. It definitely adds more to his character.

 

[shinhed-echi]

One thing to remember that regardless of what, cultural barriers are not a problem. it seems like the concern with Little Mac is more along the lines of a move set. He's a boxer, which are by rule not supposed to preform certain actions like tackling and kicking (disregarding the skewed rules from the W.V.B.A.). But I will say that, in my opinion, having something practical over something flashy is better.

Well.. if his dash attack is anything like Ippo's "Gazelle Punch" (he sprints forward, ducks and performs a gut-uppercut) I say it would work. It wouldn't have knockback, but it would "faint" the opponent in place for a followup move. (Unless it's too B-tilt-ish)

He won't need kicking. The only move that I fear (that would usually require kicking) is his Dsmash. But we've had characters with single-sided Dsmashes in the past (ZSS/Mewtwo) so it wouldn't be a problem to have a super strong low punch, IMO.