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Elessar

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I agree with Shin and Huggles. Stop polluting social with weeb pics. You want weeb? Go to the weeb boards (any FE board actually).
 
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Gene

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I thought I'd share this to all the Link mains.

 

A_Phoenix_Down

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Cat Planet Cuties trumps all.
There are way too many images that came to mind when I read this... I had to google it. And frankly, when I did... the images I found were exactly what I thought they'd be.
 
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FSK

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@ Hyrule Hero Hyrule Hero That ledge trump to dair on that Megaman was pretty sexy. Thanks to you I went and lab it and got the timing down.
And it's guaranteed on most chars except ****ty weird ones like Fox. Remember to use the zair so you can jump from the ledge instantly.
 

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In the event that the opponent's reflexes are good, and they know about this little string, it will difficult to land on some characters.
Given that Link is a much more seldom used and even more seldom utilized character, the range of opponents who'll know ahead of time is a bit small, but most competent players should be able to figure it out after one or two uses.
Most of the time a properly timed double jump is all one needs to escape this string, but that's why we have options. If you can predict they'll use their double jump you have an opportunity to punish them for that instead, so be sure to mix it up.
It's niche to a point, but the notion of an opponent reacting to it opens a different opportunity to attack, so I'd keep it handy and learn to condition the opponent to maximize it's use.
I started testing this and I didn't realize just how many variables have to be accounted for here. I've spent a few hours on it and I'm not quite halfway through the cast. I have some promising results regarding several MUs already, though. I'll do a formal write up for the meta discussion and tag you once I finish.
 
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I'm going to watch Clannad soon to see what all the fuss is.

Man, look at how defensive people are getting. Sad to see that some of your own are not what you once thought? Or perhaps some of you (@ Elessar Elessar ) are still in denial and try to attack anything that resurfaces the past?

I will haunt this social as a constant reminder.
Cat Planet Cuties trumps all.
I thought you got your warning for bad taste.

There's one wall scroll from it that I see at so many conventions. It's so obnoxious and not even attractive lmao. Makes me want to not even give it a chance. I can't link to it for obvious reasons.
There are way too many images that came to mind when I read this... I had to google it. And frankly, when I did... the images I found were exactly what I thought they'd be.
@ Lawz. Lawz. @Fox Is Openly Deceptive

Can one of you edit @ A_Phoenix_Down A_Phoenix_Down 's quote? Or APD can do it himself if he sees this. The original edited post still shows in his quote, which defeats the purpose of a warning and edit.

:093:
 
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A_Phoenix_Down

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I'm going to watch Clannad soon to see what all the fuss is.

Man, look at how defensive people are getting. Sad to see that some of your own are not what you once thought? Or perhaps some of you (@ Elessar Elessar ) are still in denial and try to attack anything that resurfaces the past?

I will haunt this social as a constant reminder.

I thought you got your warning for bad taste.

There's one wall scroll from it that I see at so many conventions. It's so obnoxious and not even attractive lmao. Makes me want to not even give it a chance. I can't link to it for obvious reasons.

@ Lawz. Lawz. @Fox Is Openly Deceptive

Can one of you edit @ A_Phoenix_Down A_Phoenix_Down 's quote? Or APD can do it himself if he sees this. The original edited post still shows in his quote, which defeats the purpose of a warning and edit.

:093:
I'll get rid of the quote.
 

Gene

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^What?!

Someone already posted the racing for rupees thing several pages back.
Sorry Rizen, I'm new here so I had no idea.

I missed the hype.
 

Elessar

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Or perhaps some of you (@ Elessar Elessar ) are still in denial and try to attack anything that resurfaces the past?

I will haunt this social as a constant reminder.

:093:
While I'm not in any form of denial, you baka, I am glad that at least something positive has come from this weeb invasion.
 

Dumbfire

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After a tournament today, I stepped into a train at 22:00 to get home. Right before the time to leave, the staff announces: "All trains to [scheduled destination] will not ride due to a power outage." That was the entire message. After 2 more trains that did not leave (and a hilarious message that literally said "There are no alternative options at the moment" -- i.e., "You're all screwed") I was told to take an hour long train to a destination the opposite direction, only to take another train going to my destination on a different path. Here I am, home, 4 and a half hours later :c I spent more time in trains than at the actual tourney >.> Worse I did not eat all day. (I mean that literally: I had no food whatsoever due to circumstances.) Now I am enjoying a lot food and wondering when I'll get to sleep. Most stations I was at were basically deserted -- really an odd sight. Actually we have a monthly here held in an abandoned school -- I love that stuff.

Thank God I'm back home so I can be cruelly flamed, bullied, beaten, and denigrated by you elitist Link mains.
 
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After a tournament today, I stepped into a train at 22:00 to get home. Right before the time to leave, the staff announces: "All trains to [scheduled destination] will not ride due to a power outage." That was the entire message. After 2 more trains that did not leave (and a hilarious message that literally said "There are no alternative options at the moment" -- i.e., "You're all screwed") I was told to take an hour long train to a destination the opposite direction, only to take another train going to my destination on a different path. Here I am, home, 4 and a half hours later :c I spent more time in trains than at the actual tourney >.> Worse I did not eat all day. (I mean that literally: I had no food whatsoever due to circumstances.) Now I am enjoying a lot food and wondering when I'll get to sleep. Most stations I was at were basically deserted -- really an odd sight. Actually we have a monthly here held in an abandoned school -- I love that stuff.

Thank God I'm back home so I can be cruelly flamed, bullied, beaten, and denigrated by you elitist Link mains.
Did you win?
 

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Elessar

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No man I was ****ing 7th out of 27, lost to number 4 a Toon Link and a fith placer, a CF. Man those MUs are stupid, though not as stupid as the Yoshi and Pika MUs that I won >.> (At least one guy was gentle and just went Lucas and Marth -- what a breath of fresh air.) ( http://challonge.com/smashfestgotw2/standings )
GG Scrub. Flamed enough as to feel at home already?
 
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incrediblej

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No man I was ****ing 7th out of 27, lost to number 4 a Toon Link and a fith placer, a CF. Man those MUs are stupid, though not as stupid as the Yoshi and Pika MUs that I won >.> (At least one guy was gentle and just went Lucas and Marth -- what a breath of fresh air.) ( http://challonge.com/smashfestgotw2/standings )
Good job man at least you got to quarter finals i wanna say but still good at least, but gotta suck you had to spend 4 hours on train
 

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@ Hyrule Hero Hyrule Hero That ledge trump to dair on that Megaman was pretty sexy. Thanks to you I went and lab it and got the timing down.
I'm glad I've brought up awareness for that setup =) remember it's only a matter of time until people figure it out and buffer a get up option so every Link out there should be looking into good ways to punish those get ups once people catch on!
 

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@ DJTHED DJTHED Congrats on making it on Smash Limelights!
Everything I ever wanted to accomplish in life has been fulfilled after that.

... Anyway, It's probably no big deal. I have a feeling there wasn't much competition for the Link submissions. I got that score within an hour.
 

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Congrats @ Zerker Zerker for placing 7th at EPG. Good job dude!

http://epeengaming.challonge.com/utz0ww4f
SPIES.
SPIES EVERYWHERE.
AUGH!

...Anyways, took 3rd in the Impromptu Doubles Grimlock decided to host.
Had a lot of fun and learned a lot.
My anti-edgeguarding game sucks.

Edit:
Sorry, not a whole lot of my matches got streamed. No worthwhile ones, anyways, imo.
Just telling you now before you look.
And no, the doubles didn't get streamed either, sadly.
 
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Dumbfire

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I'm glad I've brought up awareness for that setup =) remember it's only a matter of time until people figure it out and buffer a get up option so every Link out there should be looking into good ways to punish those get ups once people catch on!
In my experience only ledgehop Zair convincingly catches rolls (I tried normal get-up grab too, but only if the roll is slow and they shield after briefly will that work). Ledgehop Fair will catch get-up attacks and a variety of things will catch the jump. Not also this by Foxy:
But if you do time the tether reel in perfectly such that you grab the ledge the very moment after the opponent does, it won't matter if they buffer a ledge option because you'll have that option covered too. When you do a perfect tether trump you find yourself in an extremely beneficial situation. If you buffer a normal ledge get-up, the opponent is still forced to buffer a ledge option otherwise they will be trumped. Hitting away from the ledge to let go of it does not count as a ledge option and any attempt to do so in this situation will just get them trumped. If they are trumped then you will find yourself on-stage ready to punish their recovery because you know that they can't go to the ledge again, otherwise they will completely leave themselves open to being hit due to not receiving any invulnerability frames. If instead they do buffer a ledge option (ledge attack, ledge get-up, ledge roll, ledge jump) you will be in a prime position to punish any of these options as you will already be on-stage and you will know for a fact that one of these options must be used to avoid the trump (in the event that the trump does happen, you can react to that, but for now you should be focusing on punishing their ledge options) and you will know for a fact that one of these options must be done at a very specific time which makes punishing much easier.
 
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