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[Dumbfire]

But Link .. does have true combos though ? Both out of Dthrow and Dtilt for example.. I've tested it

This post by FSK is relevant:

I could say some words about dthrow uair and what is great about it if you guys want. First a disclaimer the frame numbers aren't completely accurate but more or less as in within a frame or two. I might redo the frame counts unless Foxy or Zelkam wants to do it instead. At least this is what I've found from extensive labbing and field testing(matches):

Let us take for instance a light character at 130% for instance sheik. When you dthrow sheik, sheik will be unable to do anything for 70 frames from the start of the dthrow. On frame 70 sheik is able to airdodge. On frame 76 sheik is able to double jump or input an attack. REGARDLESS of DI, Link will be able to reach his target within frame 76 with uair. If the opponent DIs away from Link it will take Link 75 frames to reach sheik. This means that it won't true combo, but sheiks ONLY option to avoid the strong hit is to airdodge. Luckily for us, uair lasts longer than an airdodge so if you follow sheiks trajectory you will eventually hit her with the weak hit. Which will KO around 120%-130% on most lighter characters.

Also if you have massive amounts of rage you can basically KO the whole cast before 100% and at this point it will true combo on most characters regardless of DI.

The input is important and the timing is strict. After the dthrow you have to buffer a dash, then on the first frame of the dash you have to jump and then uair as soon as possible after leaving the ground.

My controller setup allows me to do this pretty easily where I have L set to jump and I input the uair with the c-stick. I've been abusing this setup as much as I can and you will also be able to see it in use in my upcoming replays on my channel.

I'm pretty sure this is going to disappear in the next patch since people will complain about anything that is good about Link. So use it while you can gentlemen.

I should also mention that this setup is vulnerable to DI mixups in a sense. I do think you will have enough time to react on the DI of your opponent, but I'm really slow with my reactions so I'm not always able to do it. If you are not able to react on their DI then reading the DI is still possible. Since you fullhop your uair it will autocancel so your opponent will always be at the disadvantage, meaning it is also fairly safe to do.

Most characters can DI the Dthrow but you can still get them with an Uair -- they can DI and airdodge but you'll get them with the weak hit. The buffered dash is required to get the slight slide to respond to certain DI directions.

 

[link7]

After watching that match @ Dumbfire posted with Chuck using Giant Bombs, I actually want to work with them and actually learn about them more.

 

[Camalange]

oh god people making assumptions about sonic

Sonic loses to Sheik. Maybe not as bad some other characters but it's very clearly a disadvantage.

Sonic has the advantage on Link, but I personally don't think it's too bad. Most likely 6:4 or 55:45. I'd have a better idea if Lawz used Link ever.

(Also this may be my opinion, but If I know Cam well enough, anytime he posts he's not being serious. It was likely a joke.)

I always end my posts with Haunter.

My life is a joke.

 

[ShinnyMetal]

But Link .. does have true combos though ? Both out of Dthrow and Dtilt for example.. I've tested it

They aren't exactly true in the sense that DI is strong against them, especially with little hitstun. They are true in training but it's more of a mix-up/mind game. There are some very solid options out of d-tilt and d-throw but they sure aren't any hoo-hahs.

 

[Bdude]

if anyone is wanting to help train up a Link for tourney today (being me lol) i would greatly appreciate it. Hoping i can bring home a decent placing for the Link community! But any and all tips are greatly appreciated!
NNID BdudeGames. i would say im a 6 out of 10 skill level wise if that helps

 

[Dumbfire]

if anyone is wanting to help train up a Link for tourney today (being me lol) i would greatly appreciate it. Hoping i can bring home a decent placing for the Link community! But any and all tips are greatly appreciated!
NNID BdudeGames. i would say im a 6 out of 10 skill level wise if that helps

Go to www.xat.com/linksmashers our chat group, people there will play you (including me).

 

[Elessar]

if anyone is wanting to help train up a Link for tourney today (being me lol) i would greatly appreciate it. Hoping i can bring home a decent placing for the Link community! But any and all tips are greatly appreciated!
NNID BdudeGames. i would say im a 6 out of 10 skill level wise if that helps

Go to http://xat.com/LinkSmashers for live chat and matches.

 

[DUKEL]

After watching that match @ Dumbfire posted with Chuck using Giant Bombs, I actually want to work with them and actually learn about them more.

I really wish they were part of our EVO setup, that's for sure. Then I could actually use them this weekend...

I've always thought that Link had the advantage in the Sonic MU. I just need to practice it more and get the feel for things. But in my experience, bombs shut him down. You just have to be smart about when and where you pull them out.

 

[Linkmario00]

Go to http://xat.com/LinkSmashers for live chat and matches.

I always forget that thing doesn't work on smartphone. Sometimes I should force myself to use my PC for these things.

Also @Izaw you should cover our basic tools for close combat since it's our biggest issue. So talk about Jab setups (not combo), Pivot Ftilt and Uptilt as an anti air. A few time ago I thought B reverse and Wavebouncing were really useful for Link. Than I realised his air mobility is too bad for them being really useful, but if you want to talk about them then do it, they can be nice but remember to mention they're pretty situational.

 

[DarkDeity15]

Can someone tell me how to register for xat? It tells me where to log in, but not where I can register.

 

[Dumbfire]

I always forget that thing doesn't work on smartphone. Sometimes I should force myself to use my PC for these things.

If you have android, do this: http://community.xat.com/showthread.php?25180-How-to-go-on-xat-with-any-Android-devices
Me, Zelkam and Elessar have it running on mobile.

Can someone tell me how to register for xat? It tells me where to log in, but not where I can register.

At the main xat website, but you don't have to have an account.

 

[incrediblej]

On sonic match up with link i think if sonic uses side B against arrows he only flinches and once sonic gets up close link gets beat bad so unless your fighting a wreckless 0layer i doubt link can beat sonic, so a patient sonic can win out on that
but thats from my point of view or opinion or whatever
edit: for get what i said about flinch and arrows and sonic spins but his specials kinda do shut links arsenal down to a certain point

@ Camalange i can understand how your life is a joke your profile pic is kirino from what I've heard she's one of the most tsundere tsunderes more tsundere than suzuka asahina from... the series named after her suzuka

 

[Camalange]

On sonic match up with link i think if sonic uses side B against arrows he only flinches and once sonic gets up close link gets beat bad so unless your fighting a wreckless 0layer i doubt link can beat sonic, so a patient sonic can win out on that
but thats from my point of view or opinion or whatever
edit: for get what i said about flinch and arrows and sonic spins but his specials kinda do shut links arsenal down to a certain point

Zoning is the best thing Link has in the match-up...

Bombs are better than arrows generally, though.

Also you guys keep saying a "patient" Sonic. You have a million projectiles to camp with. You're supposed to be the patient ones.

@ Camalange i can understand how your life is a joke your profile pic is kirino from what I've heard she's one of the most tsundere tsunderes more tsundere than suzuka asahina from... the series named after her suzuka

Me saying my life is a joke is the joke, since he said I only end my posts with Haunter if I'm joking, but all my posts end with Haunter.

Thus, creating comedy.

Kirino is perfect and you no nothing about her if you haven't even watched or read the series.

 

[DarkDeity15]

If you have android, do this: http://community.xat.com/showthread.php?25180-How-to-go-on-xat-with-any-Android-devices
Me, Zelkam and Elessar have it running on mobile.


At the main xat website, but you don't have to have an account.

Does the chat work on mobile?

Edit: doesn't seem to work on iPhones.

 

[Dumbfire]

Does the chat work on mobile?

Edit: doesn't seem to work on iPhones.

It can work, read through this thread: http://community.xat.com/showthread.php?22249-Xat-app-for-iPhones-and-Androids
"There is an app (basically an alternative browser) for both iOS and Android that lets you run flash applications like xat. It's called Puffin Web Browser, here's the website of the developer: http://www.puffinbrowser.com"

 

[incrediblej]

Zoning is the best thing Link has in the match-up...

Bombs are better than arrows generally, though.

Also you guys keep saying a "patient" Sonic. You have a million projectiles to camp with. You're supposed to be the patient ones.

Me saying my life is a joke is the joke, since he said I only end my posts with Haunter if I'm joking, but all my posts end with Haunter.

Thus, creating comedy.

Kirino is perfect and you no nothing about her if you haven't even watched or read the series.

Im not saying kirino isnt best girl but from what i hear she's one of the few heroines that is the very definition of tsundere to the point of saying the guy should end up with someone better but since shes a tsundere and im a sucker for tsunders id be ok with her
but i want to watch the anime to judge for my self im thinking of reading the LN but im wondering which i should do first i might do the LN soon since i wont have a good conection to watch anime for 2 weeks since im on mobile

 

[Camalange]

Im not saying kirino isnt best girl but from what i hear she's one of the few heroines that is the very definition of tsundere to the point of saying the guy should end up with someone better but since shes a tsundere and im a sucker for tsunders id be ok with her
but i want to watch the anime to judge for my self im thinking of reading the LN but im wondering which i should do first i might do the LN soon since i wont have a good conection to watch anime for 2 weeks since im on mobile

Hm, hm.

She is definitely a top tier tsundere (and best girl) but allow me to explain the real reason why people don't like her, which is primarily the result of misguided blame.

Spoiler

Besides the fact she can be a brat, it is mostly because they blame the ending on her. It's kind of universal that the last two OVAs detracted from the point of the series, as it deviates from the LN ending. The studio wouldn't allow for a full "wincest" ending so they sort of cop out. I'm glad they didn't go with her being a step-sister or some ****, but basically the ending isn't satisfying because he turns down all these girls to be with his sister, just for them to ultimately not stay together and to go back to normal... Which makes it feel like everything was for nothing. Thus, everyone "hates" her because she won, so whether it's because they claim she's "too tsun and not enough dere" (yet her dere moments are clearly the best if you actually remember anything from the series), or because they wincest prevailed and lead to nothing, leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

I'm not sure if all of the LNs have been fully translated yet (I only recently started reading them) and unfortunately they're not localized. The anime is still great imo despite being flawed, and really, again, my only major beef is with the final OVAs. I also just bought the complete DVD box sets because I'm garbage.

Some people don't like the direction season 2 took as it focused more on the romance and less on the otaku culture, but I thought it was still very enjoyable.

I'm sure you will find she is best girl.

The only respectable non-Kirino choice is Kuroneko.

 

[Nimious]

I'm not interested in blind instigation, but that doesn't make the situation any less hilarious.

Regardless, you can see why this would cause people to be suspicious, don't you? Explaining the deleted comments up front would've been better than only addressing the sponsor situation. Any time something is non-traditional and has anything deleted around it will lead to controversy. That much can be understood. It sounds shady, regardless of what actually took place.

I'm not here to add on to any more hate, but that warranted further explanation for me. Everything else from the users here on the boards seems personal at this point.

RIP Edgehogging

I've avoided speaking further about Haze's comments but given what Izaw's saying I really can't keep quiet.

This entire situation is very much suspicious and honestly even more suspicious now...

First of all Haze made it clear to me that he does not money match in games. I asked Haze if he likes giving Izaw money given that of all the "money match" games I've seen of him he's lost. To that he says he'd never do that for a game.

Given the abundance of money match games they had in Brawl as well could they all really be from sponsors? Also isn't that still manipulative? If it's a payout from a sponsor it's no longer a money match.

http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Money_match

I then asked Haze why would Izaw name these money matches and he said he'd want to believe it makes him look rich. It was obviously in good humour and avoided a real answer. Haze certainly didn't seem upset and I even wished him luck against Izaw in the future in a later comment.

The comments actually stood for at least a month or so too. I know that because I had another conversation in that video that people commented on infrequently.

Wouldn't that indicate for whatever reason Haze got upset a month later or so and asked Izaw to delete the comments? I just don't think Haze was actually upset because of all the things why would he ask for his own comments (he can delete his own comments without asking Izaw) and mine to be deleted. It just doesn't seem likely for him to be so hung up about an uploaded match of a game he's not serious about.

I'm a fan of Izaw and I'm not trying to further this line of comments yet there's no way I can stay quiet given Izaw's explanation...

Some people don't like the direction season 2 took as it focused more on the romance and less on the otaku culture, but I thought it was still very enjoyable.

I'm sure you will find she is best girl.

The only respectable non-Kirino choice is Kuroneko.

LOL. I like how you're backing Kirino but in all honesty Oreimo rankings starts with Kuroneko and ends with with Kirino.

She's a tsuntsun in most people's eyes.

 

[Camalange]

I've avoided speaking further about Haze's comments but given what Izaw's saying I really can't keep quiet.

This entire situation is very much suspicious and honestly even more suspicious now...

First of all Haze made it clear to me that he does not money match in games. I asked Haze if he likes giving Izaw money given that of all the "money match" games I've seen of him he's lost. To that he says he'd never do that for a game.

Given the abundance of money match games they had in Brawl as well could they all really be from sponsors? Also isn't that still manipulative? If it's a payout from a sponsor it's no longer a money match.

http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Money_match

I then asked Haze why would Izaw name these money matches and he said he'd want to believe it makes him look rich. It was obviously in good humour and avoided a real answer. Haze certainly didn't seem upset and I even wished him luck against Izaw in the future in a later comment.

The comments actually stood for at least a month or so too. I know that because I had another conversation in that video that people commented on infrequently.

Wouldn't that indicate for whatever reason Haze got upset a month later or so and asked Izaw to delete the comments? I just don't think Haze was actually upset because of all the things why would he ask for his own comments (he can delete his own comments without asking Izaw) and mine to be deleted. It just doesn't seem likely for him to be so hung up about an uploaded match of a game he's not serious about.

I'm a fan of Izaw and I'm not trying to further this line of comments yet there's no way I can stay quiet given Izaw's explanation...

# E X P O S E D

LOL. I like how you're backing Kirino but in all honesty Oreimo rankings starts with Kuroneko and ends with with Kirino.

She's a tsuntsun in most people's eyes.

WOW

You were so close to getting a like and you threw it all away.

I was even being modest by saying that there was an acceptable second choice, but nope, sorry, Kirino still clearly best girl.

All other choices are purely from denial.

Spoiler

Tsun-tsun my ass.

The words of a meme bandwagon who choose to remember what they want to remember and don't want to admit the truth.

tch~

 

[Drigo Toes]

Misty top tsundere

 

[Dumbfire]

What is this "anime" thing you speak of? We here at the Link boards do not like happiness and bright colors.

 

[link and ike lover]

@ Drigo Toes You have a smash ladder?

 

[Drigo Toes]

@ Drigo Toes You have a smash ladder?

Yes... I'm the one below you and Scizor in the ladder... I have no much time to play... but It is good for learn match up...

 

[Zane the pure]

What is this "anime" thing you speak of? We here at the Link boards do not like happiness and bright colors.

Bright colors, hapiness... Yeah anime sure is lovely this time of year.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Elessar]

Bright colors, hapiness... Yeah anime sure is lovely this time of year.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Now we're talking about a real anime. All others are a heresy in need of purging by fire.

 

[Camalange]

Now we're talking about a real anime. All others are a heresy in need of purging by fire.

Casual.

 

[Drunken_Master]

Now we're talking about a real anime. All others are a heresy in need of purging by fire.

 

[Himura Kenshin]

They need to watch Evangelion to protect their fragile masculinity.

Real men watch Clannad.

 

[KenMeister]

They need to watch Evangelion to protect their fragile masculinity.

Real men watch Clannad.

As one who's watched Clannad twice, I can 100% agree with this.

 

[Zane the pure]

I see your Clannad and raise you one YuruYuri on the scale of a real man.

 

[incrediblej]

Hm, hm.

She is definitely a top tier tsundere (and best girl) but allow me to explain the real reason why people don't like her, which is primarily the result of misguided blame.

Spoiler

Besides the fact she can be a brat, it is mostly because they blame the ending on her. It's kind of universal that the last two OVAs detracted from the point of the series, as it deviates from the LN ending. The studio wouldn't allow for a full "wincest" ending so they sort of cop out. I'm glad they didn't go with her being a step-sister or some ****, but basically the ending isn't satisfying because he turns down all these girls to be with his sister, just for them to ultimately not stay together and to go back to normal... Which makes it feel like everything was for nothing. Thus, everyone "hates" her because she won, so whether it's because they claim she's "too tsun and not enough dere" (yet her dere moments are clearly the best if you actually remember anything from the series), or because they wincest prevailed and lead to nothing, leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

I'm not sure if all of the LNs have been fully translated yet (I only recently started reading them) and unfortunately they're not localized. The anime is still great imo despite being flawed, and really, again, my only major beef is with the final OVAs. I also just bought the complete DVD box sets because I'm garbage.

Some people don't like the direction season 2 took as it focused more on the romance and less on the otaku culture, but I thought it was still very enjoyable.

I'm sure you will find she is best girl.

The only respectable non-Kirino choice is Kuroneko.

I found the whole series translated here
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/?title=Ore_no_Imōto_ga_Konna_ni_Kawaii_Wake_ga_Nai

I haven't watched evangelion but i hear its good but alot is "get in the robot shinji" anyway my friend says this is how the series should of happened https://youtu.be/FckkZihQUaU

 

[KenMeister]

I see your Clannad and raise you one YuruYuri on the scale of a real man.

Aww, I was expecting a starfish. D:

 

[incrediblej]

@ KenMeister and @ Zane the pure i see your clannad and yuriyuri and raise you one school days manga

 

[link and ike lover]

Yes... I'm the one below you and Scizor in the ladder... I have no much time to play... but It is good for learn match up...

Ah. Nice, its great. Scizors greeninja is just way too good.
We should rank some time And hope to see you become a Platinum

 

[ShinnyMetal]

Aww, I was expecting a starfish. D:

Starfish aren't allowed! We don't want none of your feels here!!!!

 

[Rizen]

I see your Clannad and raise you one YuruYuri on the scale of a real man.

^
Oh goddesses, you guys are becoming the Zelda social

 

[Zane the pure]

That feel when you nail 6 full reverse bombslide in a row in wifi...
I figured out the reverse bombslide and I'm getting it pretty consistently now.

Proud of myself now ^.^

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

I go away for a few hours and when I come back every one has busted out their ****ing waifu pillows. You all need to go watch The Girl Nextdoor, the 2007 movie, not the romantic comedy. It would be good for you.

 

[Catana]

****ing weaboos

 

[Himura Kenshin]

I see your Clannad and raise you one YuruYuri on the scale of a real man.

Clannad: After Story, I win.