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They never leave, trust me. I tried
Fixed it.If it makes any1 feel better, I've created a tier list where Link is at the top and only these characters are used (since they are the
most common in my FG matches) Note: this obviously isn't 100% accurate.
Link Tier
Teeth Clenching
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Pretty Cool
Ok
Link Automatically Wins
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Wiley
Dreamer
You've missed someone on that list. He's in so much higher a tier that his placement falls 1 page back in a previous post.
#489 to be exact
#489 to be exact
Zelkam
Resident Wizard
Come on guys, lets look on the bright side. Despite the fact that we're losing the bomb toss canceling, we still got some decent buffs this time around.
- Bombs don't damage us on enemy hit
- Bombs are more durable making bomb planting easier
- Shorter fuse on bombs greatly helps recovery
- Speaking of recovery, we can actually recover!
- Faster movement and attack speed
- Most of our attacks do the same or more damage as before (I wish I could say the same for my other mains)
- Our Hylian shield now blocks while walking
- Clawshot now grabs people out of the air and has less lag on miss
Wiley
Dreamer
It's cool to see the Links out there looking to rise above the loss of some really helpful ATs and work with what you have instead of moping, nothing less to be expected out of you lot. I look forward to seeing what you can pull off without (especially Tinks,) and maybe you'll see some buffs in return, who knows. Good luck either way.
Edited out the silly ganon closing ;P
Edited out the silly ganon closing ;P
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Ryu_Ken
Ace Adventurer and Truth Seeker
For some weird but awesome reason, this post sparked something inspirational enough that I felt the need to post this kingdom hearts pic:
Song that plays during this scene is called "Link to All." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-xbOua5CyU) So fitting. "They're what... Make me strong."
*Cue music starting at post #524
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Drunken_Master
Smash Apprentice
You take that back!
We are not Toon mains, we are Link mains. We did not defect in Brawl (even if it made us a little bit crazy) and we certainly won't merge now.
Well, I really didn't defect to Toon link in brawl, though I main him, I just liked him better, though I like Young Link the most. Though I am technically right as, you know, Toon Link IS Link and it does say 'Link' tier. Just my thoughts though.
Demacrez
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Yeah, come on guys! Let's not dwell on the loss but persevere! We must do justice to the Hero of Hyrule and emerge victorious amongst these fast, agile, and aggressive contenders! We have been given a chance to fight and we're letting a single desposition ruin this opportunity!
Come, Wielders of the Hero! Use what we have and what will come to pass, then will we know if all was loss. But until that time, do not lose hope, do not give into the darkness! Raise your fist and call upon the radiant energy of Courage!
We are the Hero! And we will not lose!
Come, Wielders of the Hero! Use what we have and what will come to pass, then will we know if all was loss. But until that time, do not lose hope, do not give into the darkness! Raise your fist and call upon the radiant energy of Courage!
We are the Hero! And we will not lose!
DarkDeity15
Smash Lord
Has this been confirmed? If this is true, all of Link's bomb tech from Braw will come back. And yeah, Bomb sliding is in the game as well.
Drunken_Master
Smash Apprentice
WW Link is Link. Toon Link is Toon Link. It's different. And it must be this way. It has been this way since the great schism of 2008. You didn't suffer through the pain of Triforce tier, you wouldn't understand, man. You weren't there.
No one's giving up, all I've seen are men embittered by a retread of the past looking forward with realistic cynicism.
Of course we're going to keep maining Link, it's freakin' Link. We are just disheartened to have our new toys so quickly taken away from us. "You got to be good for a couple weeks. On the 3DS. Now go back to your tier."
We'll fight it, it's what we do, but by Shigeru's teeth if all of our ATs end up patched out, I'll string Masahiro Sakurai up by the short and curlies.
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Elessar
Nouyons TO
I've mained Link in every single smash game, and I've mained Link in every single tourney I've been into, always placing 5th and bringing so much respect to Link that I've had mains of high tier chars freaking dread playing against me (in my community). I've stuck with him through the ages and I'll honor him by not being afriad, ever. Not matter how insurmountable the odds, Link will persevere.
Link doesn't bear wisdom, he doesn't bear Power...he bears courage. And with courage, he has beaten the other two countless times over. There's a reason why they chose Link when introducing a goddess, because they knoew he was the only one who would never flinch no matter the odds.
Let the top tiers come.
Let the gods themselves come.
We are ready.
Link doesn't bear wisdom, he doesn't bear Power...he bears courage. And with courage, he has beaten the other two countless times over. There's a reason why they chose Link when introducing a goddess, because they knoew he was the only one who would never flinch no matter the odds.
Let the top tiers come.
Let the gods themselves come.
We are ready.
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Wiley
Dreamer
Um even for this thread (maybe even more so for this thread) that video should come with a gigantic spoiler... Not everyone has played it yet, and it's not fair to assume they have. Other than that, props to you and the devotion :D
Elessar
Nouyons TO
I thought about it, but then thought that it didn't really spoil anything. However, you are right, my criteria isn't good enough and it should have a spoiler tag, which it now does.
MagmarFire
Smash Journeyman
*manly tears*
Have I ever mentioned that I love this community?
Of course, as a devoted Link main myself, I share the sentiment. We have a bunch of other ATs to learn still, so however underpowered we may ultimately be, it's not over yet. Cry, 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war, I say!
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Especially considering Link is much stronger in this Smash. I'm expecting placement within the low 20's once tier lists are official.
Going from F tier in Brawl (as well as placement within the worst five characters) to lower 20's is an outstanding buff.... especially now that there are much more characters.
I have a lot of faith in Link in this game.
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I find it easier to win with other characters but I just can't get enough of Link's fighting style. I have always mained Link, and I always will. Honestly, the only way they could get me to stop playing link is if they took away his sword and shield. And even then I might. He doesn't start with it, and yet he still finds a way in every game.
Rosalina got nerfed in the Wii U version and probably will in a 3DS update. Luma takes 13 seconds to re-spawn now instead of 8.
How accurate do you guys find this MU chart?
http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssb4/character/link/
Brrrrr, it's 3 degrees f outside, feels like -9. It's the kind of day you don't pee into the wind to avoid being impaled by an icicle of sorts.
How accurate do you guys find this MU chart?
http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssb4/character/link/
Brrrrr, it's 3 degrees f outside, feels like -9. It's the kind of day you don't pee into the wind to avoid being impaled by an icicle of sorts.
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I loosely follow that tier list but it does give some insight on how a part of the online community views characters.
I've seen tournaments with low tier characters placing high so it's definitely not accurate, it's just the opinion of online casuals.
I've seen tournaments with low tier characters placing high so it's definitely not accurate, it's just the opinion of online casuals.
Dumbfire
Sex? Yes, I'm familiar with the theory
Since the Wii U version is coming out soon I figured I'd join up again. It's good to see "the old familiar faces"..!
How's Link doing in SSB4? Let me guess, he sucks -- again?
How's Link doing in SSB4? Let me guess, he sucks -- again?
Hi DF
Link actually looks about mid tier.
MM 3DS vs N64 graphics comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5gtRx_q7s
in many ways I like the darker N64 version better.
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Dumbfire
Sex? Yes, I'm familiar with the theory
Hello, and sweet! Really looking forward to smashing again.Hi DF
Link actually looks about mid tier.
are you AiB DoomFire?
Dumbfire
Sex? Yes, I'm familiar with the theory
I most certainly am, dear Fisk!
Welcome Samantha (goo)
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I guess everyone is coming back thanks to Sm4sh.
But Toon Link IS WW Link, so I am still correct. Though your right, I wasn't there, I don't know what it was like.
Lúcio
Smash Cadet
i don't think they should change a thing about the game (and i don't think they will).
all they need is updated graphics and a portable system - i don't think the actual gameplay or plot should change in the slightest.
the game is my favourite of all time and i wouldn't change it a bit.
it's creepiness and depressing tone is what makes it just so memorable.
markiplier is good but he ain't no pewdiepie
Zelkam
Resident Wizard
I don't think it's been confirmed yet, but it was one of the things that scizor mentioned.
Also, welcome back doomfire.
The instant I saw your post here the picture of cat Link popped into my head lolI don't wanna burst your bubble, but have you seen this? http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-majoras-mask-3d-isnt-just-anot/1100-6423470/
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Lúcio
Smash Cadet
when do you official tier lists get realeased (if anyone knows?)
yeah, i was originally pretty annoyed about luma's stupidly rapid re-spawn.
i don't think luma should be a one per stock addition (like the second ice climber was), however the re-spawn really needs to be massively increased.
for a sidekick that can protect you from damage and damage opponents with minimal risk to rosalina, the penalty for the loss of luma should be more than even 13 seconds imo.
as for the MU chart, i agree that sonic is a *****, although arrows aren't too bad against him.
hmmm, i think the darker original version lends better to the depressive perception of the game, although i can understand that with slightly brighter colouring they can show off the improved graphics a little better.
it still won't be light by normal game standards, but i do agree that the darker, helpess colouring went really well with the iriginal theme.
well that's disappointing... -_-
however as long as they don't change anything significant, i suppose i won't be too annoyed.
they didn't change OoT so why should they change MM?
I think that the 'changes' might just be add ones to improve the game rather than removing actually things. And example is that they might have add a masterquest version to the game, which would be awesome X3. they might have also add a few more side quests or add something more to the main story? I don't know
Zelkam
Resident Wizard
Well, that not entirely true. There were some subtle changes that made certain parts of the game easier.
Lúcio
Smash Cadet
yes of course, i'm definitely more supportive of additions rather than removals.
masterquest would be excellent.
the game was depressing and frantic at times but i wouldn't say it was overly difficult.
a MM masterquest would be epic and it's definitely a very feasible thing for them to do.
do you think they'd go as far as adding new masks or changing existing ones?
or do you think they would respect the original game by keeping them the same?
were there?
sorry, i haven't played the re-make in a while, struggling to think of anything
did they have the big hint stone thing in the OoT remake?
Zelkam
Resident Wizard
The sheikah stones, yeah. Also, the doors that led to the panels to change the water level in the water temple were highlighted. And when you use the panel in the center tower, the camera would pan down to reveal the door that some people apparently had trouble finding. It would also tell you on the map where you needed to go next for the trading sequence.
Ryu_Ken
Ace Adventurer and Truth Seeker
I'm pretty sure this feature was in the original n64
Lúcio
Smash Cadet
yeah those; sorry i forgot their name for a minute.
oh that sucks - the water temple was infamously frustrating but i think the sheer difficulty added to the game.
i played through the original and i didn't find it that hard.
the hardest thing about that place is when you make a mistake; when you don't pick up a key and you can't remember where you missed it.
hmmm, fair enough i guess - as a seasoned zelda player i knew all of this regardless.
i don't really think they need to be made more simple or straight forward.
if young kids could complete the game on the n64, i'm sure people in their 20s will be okay
