We all know that when you get of from the ledge, you are invincible, right? Or are you? I've repeated this specific tactic in multiple cases, most of which result in kills, where the opponent could have done nothing.
During a certain short amount of frames, the get-up invincibility (on ledge attacks/jumps/normal get ups) goes away. This means if you have good timing, you can spike, stagespike, dash attack, dtilt, or jab them out of any of the ledge options.
The simplest and easiest one to do is the dtilt. It has good range, so you can put yourself out of the range of ledgehopped fairs, if you're facing someone with a quick, long-ranged fair like MK. Crouch and wait for the opponent to start getting up, and dtilt.
As I mentioned before, you can also jump and try to spike them out of this, or come from behind and bair stagespike. This works even if they are jumping off the edge. Doing a dash attack or jab during this will result in them being surprised, and they might just fall to their death if they react too late. They will almost definately die if they're someone like DK, unless they are expecting it. However, these two options have the toughest timing, and leave you the most vulnerable.
All in all, as this is a good advantage for diddy, you have to keep in mind that this means that other characters with similar attacks can do the same, and you should remember: How safe am I really on the edge? I myself am one to go on the edge after stocks, because while they have invincibility, I will too in that case. It turns out I am wrong to do this. It is easy to edgeguard, and I'm starting the stock off in a bad position.
A while back I discovered a Marth Technique that used the upsmash to stagespike. Because of the freaky deaky hitbox it pulls them in to the stage, and then they fall down to their death with no chance of survival. (Even for MK) NOW with THIS discovery, although I have not tested it yet, I think this could be used to upsmash stagespike someone OUT of their ledge options. I'm going to post this same thing on the marth boards.
-IDK
During a certain short amount of frames, the get-up invincibility (on ledge attacks/jumps/normal get ups) goes away. This means if you have good timing, you can spike, stagespike, dash attack, dtilt, or jab them out of any of the ledge options.
The simplest and easiest one to do is the dtilt. It has good range, so you can put yourself out of the range of ledgehopped fairs, if you're facing someone with a quick, long-ranged fair like MK. Crouch and wait for the opponent to start getting up, and dtilt.
As I mentioned before, you can also jump and try to spike them out of this, or come from behind and bair stagespike. This works even if they are jumping off the edge. Doing a dash attack or jab during this will result in them being surprised, and they might just fall to their death if they react too late. They will almost definately die if they're someone like DK, unless they are expecting it. However, these two options have the toughest timing, and leave you the most vulnerable.
All in all, as this is a good advantage for diddy, you have to keep in mind that this means that other characters with similar attacks can do the same, and you should remember: How safe am I really on the edge? I myself am one to go on the edge after stocks, because while they have invincibility, I will too in that case. It turns out I am wrong to do this. It is easy to edgeguard, and I'm starting the stock off in a bad position.
A while back I discovered a Marth Technique that used the upsmash to stagespike. Because of the freaky deaky hitbox it pulls them in to the stage, and then they fall down to their death with no chance of survival. (Even for MK) NOW with THIS discovery, although I have not tested it yet, I think this could be used to upsmash stagespike someone OUT of their ledge options. I'm going to post this same thing on the marth boards.
-IDK
