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[Rizen]

???

I wasn't mad. I just was sick and exhausted and wanted to play when I felt better, lol.
Are you ~COH~?

edit, I added you and I'm hosting so join when ready

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Double post

 

[Rizen]

@ N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣 GGs! Lol, that's me playing good. The heavy lag sucked but for Lag dittos those were fun You have a very aggressive style but there's not much else you can do in lag, lol.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Edit: No NTAO

 

[Rizen]

GGs .

I think Link can stand up to any character but it's a steep uphill climb. You really have to outplay the opponent but unlike other low tiers Link is never completely shut down.

I'll try to rep Link on and offline as much as I can too I've been to 2 live events in the last 2 months and played wifi too Year of Link FTW!

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Edit: No NTAO

 

[Rizen]

I seriously wish I could go offline as well. I already know I'd things that would surprise Link mains. I'll show you how easy you are to get read. (If WiFi isn't too bad). You do the same-thing in-order. Gale-Boomerang, pull out Bomb and throw Bomb, and charge up Arrows. You'll sometimes arrow cancel, but you never do at all. Only on our third match.

When I'm coming back onto the stage. You preform a walk back Forward smash Or retreat Forward air.You never use Down Air that much (so that will surprise some players that wont see it coming).

You Forward Smash sooooo much! Just jab or pull out a Bomb and continue on from there. The reason why I stop camping, is because I figured you out and I did, I then noticed that you had a hard time and so did I..., so I went back to camping. You then picked your other characters, and I do the same, "lagggg" (like you wrote on your tag). Went MK and didn't care anymore.

Hmph... if WiFi gets better with our connection (doubt it) then you'll find out on what I mean. This just to let you know that you're simple to be figured out. I was just mimicking everything you did, because I didn't care anymore. The matches felt like a joke (and they were).

I think you're taking those games too seriously. It's impossible to show much skill in lag like that anyway. It's just lag dittos, lol.

 

[Naroghin]

You up for any more lag dittos? I don't want this to become tedious for you but it would be great to throw down with someone other than the computer...

 

[Rizen]

You up for any more lag dittos? I don't want this to become tedious for you but it would be great to throw down with someone other than the computer...

Sure, let me fire up the wii
Okay I added you and am hosting. GL HF.

 

[Naroghin]

Booting up now... I'll see if I can get this thing to work.

Also... "GL HF"???

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Edit: No NTAO

 

[Bomber7]

So aparently Link's boomerang can hit Peach's bob-omb during the beginning frames which she pulls it out and it's not visible yet. I just found out a super useful thing to beat peaches with in the .00001% chance it happens.

 

[Heero Yuy]

^ ...In Project M. The rang is so much different in that game.

This will be the year of Link. However, we don't need more Link rep, we need more GOOD Link players. I'm training Bomber to improve his P:M Link and in fact am trying to show a lot of my crew what Link can do. Even though I don't play Brawl competitively anymore, the Triforce has to unite all Link players from the three big games:

Power - Melee
Wisdom - Brawl
Courage - Project M

Honestly the only Link player to ever unlock him to his fullest was Isai, but I guarantee you all that we have the potential to bring him to the big BIG leagues too. The learning curve is high, but it's not impossible to achieve.

Go out and save Hyrule.

 

[Bomber7]

Link's learning curve is high? *saying genuinely with ignorance having played Link for all his life*

 

[Rizen]

Booting up now... I'll see if I can get this thing to work.

Also... "GL HF"???

It means good luck have fun
GGs If you want any tips just let me know.

 

[Naroghin]

It means good luck have fun
GGs If you want any tips just let me know.

Haha, I figured that's what it meant when I looked at it again. Sorry I had to drop out; I have work in the morning and can't stay up all night anymore like my college years. Oh well. It was a blast playing with someone who actually knows what they are doing and experience your play style first hand. I did indeed have fun, even if I didn't take a single match.

All tips are welcome; as I'm sure you noticed I understand and can perform most of the Link AT's but application of such during 1v1 (and against a real person, during heavy lag, no less) seems to be lost on me. My OoS game is terrible AND I can't seem to space worth balls. Any help for an old smasher would be appreciated.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Haha, I figured that's what it meant when I looked at it again. Sorry I had to drop out; I have work in the morning and can't stay up all night anymore like my college years. Oh well. It was a blast playing with someone who actually knows what they are doing and experience your play style first hand. I did indeed have fun, even if I didn't take a single match.

All tips are welcome; as I'm sure you noticed I understand and can perform most of the Link AT's but application of such during 1v1 (and against a real person, during heavy lag, no less) seems to be lost on me. My OoS game is terrible AND I can't seem to space worth balls. Any help for an old smasher would be appreciated.

Cool! You used my quote. <3 Want to lag WiFi? I like that you used lag matches (which is the truth). Want to?

 

[Naroghin]

I would love to, GYK! Can we play a few matches tomorrow night? As I told Rizen I have to get to bed before my wife wakes up mad so I can get up for work in the morning. We'll have to figure it out tomorrow; I think I'm 3 hours ahead of your time? We'll get it going, no worries.

Good night, my Links!

This is our year!

 

[Rizen]

Haha, I figured that's what it meant when I looked at it again. Sorry I had to drop out; I have work in the morning and can't stay up all night anymore like my college years. Oh well. It was a blast playing with someone who actually knows what they are doing and experience your play style first hand. I did indeed have fun, even if I didn't take a single match.

All tips are welcome; as I'm sure you noticed I understand and can perform most of the Link AT's but application of such during 1v1 (and against a real person, during heavy lag, no less) seems to be lost on me. My OoS game is terrible AND I can't seem to space worth balls. Any help for an old smasher would be appreciated.

The connection was pretty good.
Like you said work on your OoS game. You might have noticed I'd shield grab a lot of your SH Fair/Nair; grab is a very easy OoS to punish landings. Even dropping your shield and jabbing is better than rolling after you successfully block because you have the frame advantage.
Work on rolling less. you spaced with rolls a lot and that got easy to punish later on.
My rule of thumb for spacing is hit with the tip of the attack. Try to get a feeling of where Bair/Fair's tip is and where Zair's tip is and use the right attack for the spacing, moving back if you need to.
When my Link's camping don't crouch to block stuff for a long period of time. I can simply space a bomb to explode near you but the big reason is Link needs to throw a lot of projectiles out. When you try to PS without approaching or block stuff that let me throw out more stuff and puts you in a bad position.

The big thing you should work on with all your characters is be less timid about attacking and pick up the pace. Link can always be throwing attacks out. If your not attacking you should be moving; like as Ganon try to close in and catch my lag. You saw how my Ganon was aggressive in pressuring but not reckless in throwing attacks out. This parred with a better OoS game will really help your game. If you are not moving/attacking it means the opponent gains an edge.
Get a sense of when you have the upper hand (like after successfully blocking, when the opponent is recovering, etc) and take advantage of that to pressure the opponent. With good spacing of course.
You had some really good reads. Pair that with faster game play and you'll be doing good.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

I would love to, GYK! Can we play a few matches tomorrow night? As I told Rizen I have to get to bed before my wife wakes up mad so I can get up for work in the morning. We'll have to figure it out tomorrow; I think I'm 3 hours ahead of your time? We'll get it going, no worries.

Good night, my Links!

This is our year!

Night Link brother! Our year indeed~

 

[Rizen]

@ N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣 I'm ignoring you. The only reason those super heavy lag games mean anything is because you keep posting salt and then messaging condescending things. I don't care about the games but it'd be nice to play without all the johns and salt. I tried to be nice and let it go but you keep obsessing over it.
You can't tell how good anyone is in heavy lag and I didn't ask for your opinion on my play style. I'm not judging you sucking because it's stupid and there's a lot I could say was pure lag abuse. Everyone gets burned by lag, not just you.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Edit: No NTAO

 

[Heero Yuy]

For what? I'm not upset. Only baffled as to why we have such a humongous amount of lag. This is the first time I've ever seen this much lag before. =O Meh (like always). Sucking? Ha ha! All I did was style on you. K. Night~

No offense but that "style on you" is a pretty huge john.

Anyhow, not sure why but I'm actually enjoying getting bopped by players online these days. Could be maturity or the fact that I'm just being optimistic that I'm learning from my mistakes. Could be both. Either way as long as I rid of my bad habits, I'll be pleased in the end. To quote Hungrybox:

"Getting wrecked never felt so satisfying."

 

[Anonano]

@HeeroYuy: lol xD

GYK: You're probably a really nice dude. We probably don't know your more nice, down-to-earth side yet. You might be pretty young (remember that the average age of competitive video gamers is somewhere in the early twenties, even for Smash Bros, not in the teens like you might think), and so your behavior might be stemming from that. But it's inappropriate.
Respect as a player comes from others. They talk about it, tell others about it, and people eventually come to respect you.
Talking about how good you are (and especially downtalking other players around you, whether we know the person or they are a "random" that we don't know) won't influence our respect for your skill level. It influences how much we respect you as a person. And it is is not in a good way, especially when you don't spend at least a decent amount of time talking positively about the other people around you.
So my advice to you is this: Stop talking about your skill level. We'll (as in us here in the Link forum, and all the members across Smashboards and AllisBrawl collectively) gauge your skill level and react appropriately. Instead, start asking for our commentary on your playing. Be open to our reactions. Act humble. Focus on our playing instead. Give us positive and negative feedback (and here in the Link forums you've talked too big, so I recommend you start by talking about more positives than negatives).
It's up to you whether or not you incorporate the advice that others give to you. Some will be good and some will be bad. But that's the point. For you to learn from the good, other people have to say their thoughts about your playstyle to you. You don't need to say your thoughts about your playing to others. Keep your thoughts about you to yourself, and you'll benefit from the advice other people will give you. Talk about yourself to others only when you think it will give you beneficial insight into yourself and your playing and help you improve.

Remember that good players springing from nowhere is a rarity rather than a commonplace occurence.

This is my kind advice to you.

 

[Anonano]

To keep this post clearly defined from my advice to GYK, I picked up Pikachu about a week and a half ago and tried to really learn how to play him. Within a few hours of practicing my QACs I was consistently 3-stocking CPUs, something that my Link can't do. So, to Bomber, Link does have a really high learning curve xD

Of course that isn't helped by the CPU's frame-perfect play (getting consistently grabbed out of jab cancels anyone?) where QAC's mobility isn't something the CPU is programmed to react to effectively, but still.

Oh, and I seven-stocked a Pikachu CPU as Link in training mode just by throwing projectiles at it and playing keep away. The CPU is programmed to use thunderjolt at far distances, and it hampers their ability to approach while leaving them open to projectiles that will only knock them further away. So if you are practicing projectile strings don't use Pikachu as a CPU opponent, lol. The CPU is literally broken at mid- and far-range distances.

EDIT: I'm down to play today too :D If anybody wants to play me, just post here and give me a half hour or so to respond (I have to manually refresh the page now, as the Smashboards alert system seems to have changed since it's most recent move). But I'll be available the whole day :D

 

[Bomber7]

Another page with walls of text? Hmmmm. Waffles.

 

[Heero Yuy]

Oh, and I seven-stocked a Pikachu CPU as Link in training mode just by throwing projectiles at it and playing keep away. The CPU is programmed to use thunderjolt at far distances, and it hampers their ability to approach while leaving them open to projectiles that will only knock them further away. So if you are practicing projectile strings don't use Pikachu as a CPU opponent, lol. The CPU is literally broken at mid- and far-range distances.

In my opinion, CPUs shouldn't be played above level 4. I use them only to practice tech chasing and comboing. They DI differently depending on their level which enables you to learn how to follow up in accordance with the DI, but otherwise above level 4 their DI becomes ridiculously good and their reactions are inhumane. Level 1's all day.

 

[Anonano]

Interesting approach, Heero. I use level 7 because that's where the CPU's shielding habits seem to be more humanlike (occasional well-timed shielding or dodges) to help work on my spamming game. I'll have to take a try at a level 1 or 2 for combo/follow up purposes.

 

[Rizen]

I use lv9 CPUs when I practice for live stuff but otherwise play wifi. CPUs will learn from matches with real people. Lol the CPUs of characters I use are much smarter than of characters I never play.

I've been jogging, lifting and doing situps for over a week now It's not much to start but I'll gradually add on more.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Edit: No NTAO

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Edit: No NTAO

 

[Heero Yuy]

@ Everybody else, dude has a horrible connection. The fact that I still had better control and tricks (and it still had lag invovled). Like I typed before, "I always fights these type of Links", the lag was just too bad. I bet you if we did fight again, and the lag was better, he'd still do the exact thing. I on the other hand will not. I'll sitck to connections that are playable. Seems me and you cannot brawl ever again (unless you come to Basic Brawl and find me). If you do then you'll see how easy it is for me to get inisde. I'm done typing (useless at this point). Bye now~

GYK, Ano was giving you constructive criticism on how to stop boasting so much about your skill level and just accept that you have more to learn. He wasn't denying that you were really good offline as opposed to laggy online play, he was saying just that you shouldn't discredit Rizen for being a good Link player because of the fact he's a more experienced Wi-Fi player.

Enjoy playing with your Basic Brawl buddies, but if you're really gonna turn down this entire Link Brawl board just because you blame these connections that none of us have control over then that's just another insult to us. Hope you read the part, "It's up to you whether or not you incorporate the advice that others give to you."

 

[Rizen]

I'm ignoring him. Good spacing>flashiness. Where are Scabe or Red Ryu when we need a moderator? (name search bait)
I have gone all Link in at least 9 offline tournaments getting good results like 2nd.

 

[Anonano]

I'mignoringhimsoihavetopostmytourneyresultstojustifymyselfwaaaaargh ;P

 

[HarryTheChin]

Here's to hoping SSB4s online won't be as bad...

 

[Death Arcana]

my boy GYK
tell im how godly we would be in dubz LOL
time to ****

 

[link and ike lover]

man i want to play all of u link mains but i lost my ssbb game disk.

 

[Bomber7]

Rizen for Link board mod.

!vival'revolucion!

 

[Heero Yuy]

"Why ISN'T Rizen a mod?" - The first question I asked myself when I was a naive newb on Smashboards.

 

[Bomber7]

I'm sure if we asked an admin they'd make Rizen a mod.