Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

[Ramen King]

Alright Kantrip bit it makes no sense. btw why did you choose to mimic T-block? And I'm not sure if you ever clarified this, but your mimic would have given you the move he used n1 correct?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

gheb, did anything happen to you while you were sleeping?

Why would you wanna know?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb who is scum out of Kantrip and The block?

The one I'm voting right now I think.

 

[Kantrip]

I chose to mimic T-block kind of randomly out of people who hadn't claimed anything yet that I was unsure on. I was unsure on him because he faded into the background after people (including me) called him town. After that the townread faded away.

I did get mod clarification, and I would get the ability he used the Night I targeted him. This means he used Bad Dreads LAST Night phase.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

And what do we learn from it, Kantrip?

Honestly, all this NA crap really has helped us nothing to find scum up until now and with how little there is left to claim I don't see how much longer you expect to keep on going on like this. There's almost nobody in the game who seems to have a legitimate scumread that he can actually back up solidly.

 

[T-block]

Oh you caught me, I decided to fake claim a result on you without doing any research because I am just really sloppy scum and don't look into my fake claims at all.

You saw me replace you in FFT. You saw how meticulous I am. That OMGUS as a result just proves that you are scum.

that doesn't answer the question

i think it's a legitimate question. what you're saying makes no sense.

it's not OMGUS if i'm voting you for a reason other than that you're voting me

So what exactly does your bad dreams passive do in the game of mafia?

i'd also like to know

T-block who what is your fake role?

luvdisc, town super soaker

Why would you wanna know?

kantrip is asserting that i have an ability that, in pokemon, causes sleeping pokemon to lose health each turn.

 

[Kantrip]

We learn that T-block's claim is a lie, and that he used an ability titled "Bad Dreams". That's what we learn. If you choose instead not to believe me (and to believe that T-block's reaction to the accusation was very out of character for what he would be doing after seeing how careful I am with fake claims from FFT, which you witnessed as well) then you can think I'm scum, fine.

But after I flip town T-block needs to die too. Even BETTER YET would be to lynch the claimed JoaT with all his good abilities used who has basically submitted himself to his fate (even though that was just AtE) first and realize he is scum.

T-block, why wouldn't I have just said some crap like Hypnosis if I was trying to frame you as the one putting people to sleep? I don't know what your move does, I'm just saying what I got.

 

[Kantrip]

T-block, it's not a legitimate question because I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS other than

I targeted you.
I got mod confirmation that I targeted you.
The last ability you used is called Bad Dreams.

 

[Kantrip]

Also you voting me makes little to no sense. You voted right away without even thinking, and you've seen FIRST HAND the work I put into fake claiming as scum. Do you HONESTLY think I would claim something so easily debatable against you if that was my intent?

The short answer is, you shouldn't be thinking that. That's why your quick vote on me is fake.

 

[T-block]

i could say you've seen me put work into fake claiming as scum too. it doesn't really mean anything.

all i know is that there's no mention of bad dreams anywhere in my role PM. the natural conclusions is that you're lying.

 

[Kantrip]

Sure, and you put a lot of work in your fake claim from what I've seen. That JoaT claim with the motivations behind your targets was pretty well thought out.

Maybe the Paralysis one was even real, and you're a scum JoaT who afflicts people with statuses. Who knows.

Just think for a second: Does it make SENSE that I'm lying, besides the fact that you claim it's not in your role PM. I just want to hear from you that it's "strange I botched a fake result so bad", if you want to put it from your POV.

 

[Kantrip]

Because it DOES mean something. Not to you, but to everyone else who is in this game.

@Everyone but T-block: T-block is scum.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I don't think anything happened to me that made me lose health and if it did I wasn't notified.

Anyway, don't expect me to make any more efforts to hunt scum if you guys pull out ****ty reads based on NA results that don't prove anything [guess why, they aren't meant to prove stuff, they're ambiguous to the max].

 

[T-block]

does anyone have an active ability that is an actual ability (not a move) in pokemon?

Sure, and you put a lot of work in your fake claim from what I've seen. That JoaT claim with the motivations behind your targets was pretty well thought out.

Maybe the Paralysis one was even real, and you're a scum JoaT who afflicts people with statuses. Who knows.

Just think for a second: Does it make SENSE that I'm lying, besides the fact that you claim it's not in your role PM. I just want to hear from you that it's "strange I botched a fake result so bad", if you want to put it from your POV.

defending yourself with "why would i make a mistake?" is ridiculous. you know i can't possibly have a good response to that question. could be any number of reasons.

yeah, i put effort into a well-crafted fake claim, and then decide to throw it out without being forced to, with a claimed watcher/mimic-user in the game. that sounds like something i would do - why would i claim prematurely if it's fake? see? i can defend myself like that too.

 

[Ramen King]

T-block I actually have information on your role too which was part of the reason I've been thinking you're scum. Just out with the truth man or you're going to get lynched.

 

[T-block]

i've told you all there is to know ._.

 

[Ramen King]

I know for a fact that you are lying dude. Seriously I don't care about that. But if you're just going to keep lying.

T-block

Just out with it my gorf.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

T-Block/Kantrip is making my head hurt. There's T-Block, who's scum, but kantrip's attack is some sort of ridiculous self-meta thing that makes me put him at leaning scum. Hell, I think them being scumbuddies is likely.

 

[Kantrip]

I used to think NA results were not to be trusted. Then I played in Britches and Hose, pulled Gunsmith, found a gun on two people who I knew for a fact couldn't be a scum team together, and they ended up being a scum and a framed indy.
The ability "Bad Dreams" both carries anti-town connotation and IS NOT a part of T-block's claim. My visits are mod-confirmed.
T-block is scum.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

You know what?

Unvote, Vote: T-Block

Xonar's still scum.

 

[Kantrip]

Dark Horse what are you talking about? My attack on T-block is not self-meta. It's my Mimic ability telling me he's full of ****.

If we're scumbuddies then this was greatly coordinated. Yeah. Let's get us both lynched!

FFS I hate this game lately.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Oh you caught me, I decided to fake claim a result on you without doing any research because I am just really sloppy scum and don't look into my fake claims at all.

You saw me replace you in FFT. You saw how meticulous I am. That OMGUS as a result just proves that you are scum.

This post right here, kantrip.

 

[Kantrip]

That's not my attack at all. That comes into play only between T-block and myself and is completely valid. That's not self-meta about thought process or something that is not provable. That is the example evidence for my statement.

Statement: When I am scum, I put a lot of thought into fake claims.
Specific example: In Final Fantasy Tactics, I talked about my fake claim in the QT a lot and did plenty of research about what would work as a claim and what to name abilities.

Also, I know about Pokémon. I play Pokémon. For T-block to suggest that I claimed him having Bad Dreams WITHOUT KNOWING BAD DREAMS IS AN ABILIY? That's bull****.

If T-block is mafia, Dark Horse is a likely partner trying to set up a mislynch on me after the inevitable T-block lynch.

 

[Kantrip]

*ABILITY, but the point was there.

In fact, FoS: Dark Horse.

 

[Ramen King]

Vote: T-block

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

That's not my attack at all. That comes into play only between T-block and myself and is completely valid. That's not self-meta about thought process or something that is not provable. That is the example evidence for my statement.

Statement: When I am scum, I put a lot of thought into fake claims.
Specific example: In Final Fantasy Tactics, I talked about my fake claim in the QT a lot and did plenty of research about what would work as a claim and what to name abilities.

Also, I know about Pokémon. I play Pokémon. For T-block to suggest that I claimed him having Bad Dreams WITHOUT KNOWING BAD DREAMS IS AN ABILIY? That's bull****.

If T-block is mafia, Dark Horse is a likely partner trying to set up a mislynch on me after the inevitable T-block lynch.

Got to address this piece by piece.

@Underlined: You what this entire thing is? Self meta. Sure, you pull up a specific example, but it's still self-meta, as you are talking about your play.

How does the bold/underline point to scum? Alright, he didn't think you knew about bad dreams being an ability. How does that point to him being scum?

And then there's the bold. I dislike how you're attacking T-Block, and you're claiming that we could be scumbuddies because of that? You're getting defensive. It's making me dislike you even more.

 

[Kantrip]

Oh wow you're right, it's self meta. But why is it uncredible?

 

[Kantrip]

He didn't claim Bad Dreams. He used an move called Bad Dreams. He is scum because of my result on him. Are you ********?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Oh wow you're right, it's self meta. But why is it uncredible?

Proof by example, think.

Oh boy, you did it in FFT. Why should we automatically assume you're doing the same here.

He didn't claim Bad Dreams. He used an move called Bad Dreams. He is scum because of my result on him. Are you ********?

And what about how he thought that you didn't know that bad dreams was an ability point to scum. You said so in my previous post

 

[Kantrip]

It's not "I did X in X so I could be doing it here". It's "You're assuming I'm making a stupid mistake yet you've seen me play in such a way that making such a mistake is impossible."

 

[JTB]

Kantrip is town, therefore block is scum.
vote tblock

 

[Raziek]

Ok, so reading all of this, T-scum is pretty damn obvious at this point.

I'm more than willing to believe Kantrip after Joey's slot was asleep all of yesterday, probably has something to do with the whole 'Bad Dreams" thing.

Let me go back and see if anything else needed commenting.

Request votecount.

 

[Raziek]

Ugh.

I'm actually Celebi, I have Worry Seed and Magic Coat. I used Magic Coat tonight (1pp, so it's out now). I claimed Ferrothorn with Barbs because Ryker held me at gunpoint. Ferro is my actual dumbrole/fakerole (Ferrothorn, indy plant abductor as a reference to my plant abductor role in Gigabots) given by Washed.

Change again tonight and you'll see.


What makes me MORE curious is how you're FLYING type when Kantrip is ice/flying.

I'm willing to buy the Ferro fakeclaim reasoning, but trying to incriminate JTB here is pretty gross.

 

[Raziek]

Might as well semi-claim.

I am arcanine. Being fire-type makes me immune to burns, while my ability flash fire prevents fire-type attacks from working on me.

This seems kinda sketchy. That's all you have? We haven't seen anything that would indicate any sort of status present besides sleep yet.

Aren't those two things more or less the same? Almost every burn-causing attack is Fire type to begin with. >_>

 

[Raziek]

Yeah, that's all I really care about.

 

[JTB]

Raziek can die once T-block flips scum

just sayin, 1872 is just that bad

>"pretty obvious scum"
>requests votecount before voting

who cares if hes at L-1, hes scum and should die

(also)

Why?

I do intend to THINK this game, not just vote blindly. I just have to get caught up and back into it.

Why is T-Block scum? Who are your scumreads besides him right now?

only mention of T-block before that post and it isn't a scum read

whats changed between that post and now?

(t-block guaranteed lynch, thats what)

diediedie

 

[JTB]

also, raziek and xonar arent scum together

 

[~ Gheb ~]

also, raziek and xonar arent scum together

Not sure why you think so though Raz and DH's recent posts don't do them any favors and makes me strongly consider T / Raz / DH team now, assuming Xonar isn't part of it ... that would kind of line up with your thought process too, wouldn't it?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Joey's slot was asleep all of yesterday, probably has something to do with the whole 'Bad Dreams" thing.

If that were true ... what exactly would that tell you?

Seriously, ****ing hop off the NA crap already.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

This seems kinda sketchy. That's all you have? We haven't seen anything that would indicate any sort of status present besides sleep yet.

Aren't those two things more or less the same? Almost every burn-causing attack is Fire type to begin with. >_>

Might as well semi-claim.

I am arcanine. Being fire-type makes me immune to burns, while my ability flash fire prevents fire-type attacks from working on me.

And yes, I know they're awfully similar.