KOS-MOS Returning to Battle: DLC Season 2.

[Deleted member]

The thing that is most worrisome to me at this point is that the DLC 2.0 characters hypothetically don't have the same restrictions as the first batch RE: when their games came out compared to development. That would, in the eyes of many people, mean Rex and Pyra could be selected at this point. While I believe this thread suggests KOS-MOS as a Namco rep as opposed to a Xeno Rep, generally speaking she's both. ((I usually see her as a Monolith Soft Rep, but that's splitting hairs.)) They may not choose to add her any time soon after adding them, or Vice Versa.

Obviously still support KOS-MOS ((She's my top pick, and I'm a huge Fate/Stay Night fan)), but that is something that may become a new hurdle for her.

The only thing I hope is that she gets in over Rex and other Xenoblade character, not really a fan of them, even though I think KOS-MOS chances are slim.

 

[Smasherfan88]

The thing that is most worrisome to me at this point is that the DLC 2.0 characters hypothetically don't have the same restrictions as the first batch RE: when their games came out compared to development. That would, in the eyes of many people, mean Rex and Pyra could be selected at this point. While I believe this thread suggests KOS-MOS as a Namco rep as opposed to a Xeno Rep, generally speaking she's both. ((I usually see her as a Monolith Soft Rep, but that's splitting hairs.)) They may not choose to add her any time soon after adding them, or Vice Versa.

Obviously still support KOS-MOS ((She's my top pick, and I'm a huge Fate/Stay Night fan)), but that is something that may become a new hurdle for her.

Legally speaking, Xenoblade and Xenosaga are different series and would be considered "another game world" like Sakurai likes to say, so... speaking in the terms of legal stuff and rights, etc. etc., the presence of Rex with Pyra, Mythra, and the real reason why anyone would want Rex: Roc so the big bird can get his screentime; shouldn't really affect her chances all that much, we fans just like to huddle all the games under the "Xeno-series" name since they're headed by the same guy, but in reality they are indeed separate series, if they weren't... Square would've sued Namco or everything would still all be in Gears' universe, blah blah blah.

That said, I'm in the "I want them all" camp, so... its a win-win scenario for me, and if I can wait ten years for Ridley to be playable? I can wait more for all the Xeno-reps I want to become playable to be added in as fighters. That said Metal Face shall forever be a pipe dream, at least I have the Super Smash Bros. Remix mod for Brawl to play as him.

 

[KarneraMythos]

The thing that is most worrisome to me at this point is that the DLC 2.0 characters hypothetically don't have the same restrictions as the first batch RE: when their games came out compared to development. That would, in the eyes of many people, mean Rex and Pyra could be selected at this point. While I believe this thread suggests KOS-MOS as a Namco rep as opposed to a Xeno Rep, generally speaking she's both. ((I usually see her as a Monolith Soft Rep, but that's splitting hairs.)) They may not choose to add her any time soon after adding them, or Vice Versa.

Obviously still support KOS-MOS ((She's my top pick, and I'm a huge Fate/Stay Night fan)), but that is something that may become a new hurdle for her.

That's why I always allude to the home trilogy where her first appearance and her Ver.4 Upgrade are the most prominent aspects to her character. They could always amalgamate her and give her the Zohar cannons from her Xenoblade 2 appearance, but I am generally not worried about Rex taking her spot.

If anything, Elma fans have that to worry about, and even then that's a stretch because Sakurai recently mentioned wanting to support Ultimate as much as they (Nintendo) allow him to. Hypothetically, Rex, Elma, and KOS-MOS can be playable. There just has to be a showing for each of them to even humor those odds.

Legally speaking, Xenoblade and Xenosaga are different series and would be considered "another game world" like Sakurai likes to say, so... speaking in the terms of legal stuff and rights, etc. etc., the presence of Rex with Pyra, Mythra, and the real reason why anyone would want Rex: Roc so the big bird can get his screentime; shouldn't really affect her chances all that much, we fans just like to huddle all the games under the "Xeno-series" name since they're headed by the same guy, but in reality they are indeed separate series, if they weren't... Square would've sued Namco or everything would still all be in Gears' universe, blah blah blah.

That said, I'm in the "I want them all" camp, so... its a win-win scenario for me, and if I can wait ten years for Ridley to be playable? I can wait more for all the Xeno-reps I want to become playable to be added in as fighters. That said Metal Face shall forever be a pipe dream, at least I have the Super Smash Bros. Remix mod for Brawl to play as him.

Yep, the Xeno moniker is just a decoration at this point. The games barely tie together. This would be like saying that Bravely Default is a Final Fantasy game because it references the latter here and there, so there's no worrying wondering if her odds are threatened by another character or the "new game worlds" comment.

Also, I think that Mumkhar works better with his Wolverine schtick, while his Metal Face persona works better as a Final Smash and as a Classic Mode Boss. "HEY, HEY! TIME TO DIE!" anyone?

 

[ES. Dinah]

The thing that is most worrisome to me at this point is that the DLC 2.0 characters hypothetically don't have the same restrictions as the first batch RE: when their games came out compared to development. That would, in the eyes of many people, mean Rex and Pyra could be selected at this point. While I believe this thread suggests KOS-MOS as a Namco rep as opposed to a Xeno Rep, generally speaking she's both. ((I usually see her as a Monolith Soft Rep, but that's splitting hairs.)) They may not choose to add her any time soon after adding them, or Vice Versa.

Obviously still support KOS-MOS ((She's my top pick, and I'm a huge Fate/Stay Night fan)), but that is something that may become a new hurdle for her.

Mmmm, I don't think that has any bearing on KOS-MOS getting in at all. We still dont truly know if spirits mean anything for characters but right now I at least 80% believe any spirits are not getting characters so that means Rex and Pyra are most certainly out. Yeah, KOS-MOS is both but she's still a new world considering Xenosaga is a Namco property and she only gets in things because Monolith Soft and Namco both have a great relationship. If you looked at the interview I posted awhile back you could even see Harada and Takahashi together talking about everything Xeno! I think further dlc will follow the same trend of Character, stage, spirits. If Rex got in then what new spirits would be added for him? I dont know really... also Xenoblade 2 music is already in the game through the mii costume and spirits and they typically add more music for new dlc characters. I'm not saying the ABSOLUTELY CANNOT add more themes from Xenoblade 2... it would just break the current trend we have right now.

 

[Smasherfan88]

That's why I always allude to the home trilogy where her first appearance and her Ver.4 Upgrade are the most prominent aspects to her character. They could always amalgamate her and give her the Zohar cannons from her Xenoblade 2 appearance, but I am generally not worried about Rex taking her spot.

If anything, Elma fans have that to worry about, and even then that's a stretch because Sakurai recently mentioned wanting to support Ultimate as much as they (Nintendo) allow him to. Hypothetically, Rex, Elma, and KOS-MOS can be playable. There just has to be a showing for each of them to even humor those odds.



Yep, the Xeno moniker is just a decoration at this point. The games barely tie together. This would be like saying that Bravely Default is a Final Fantasy game because it references the latter here and there, so there's no worrying wondering if her odds are threatened by another character or the "new game worlds" comment.

Also, I think that Mumkhar works better with his Wolverine schtick, while his Metal Face persona works better as a Final Smash and as a Classic Mode Boss. "HEY, HEY! TIME TO DIE!" anyone?

I mean you right, it'd be the most realistic way to get him playable without shrinking him down, and even then he'd probably be big enough to stick out above platforms. Which is why as the guy who made a Mumkhar thread its a lonely, inactive place I suggested he stay out of Metal Face unless it's a final smash. But as I said, I'm content with him being in brawl mods, there's just something about an up-smash that covers half of battlefield that's hilarious and fun to me, something that would one hundred percent not fly in an actual smash game.

Mmmm, I don't think that has any bearing on KOS-MOS getting in at all. We still dont truly know if spirits mean anything for characters but right now I at least 80% believe any spirits are not getting characters so that means Rex and Pyra are most certainly out. Yeah, KOS-MOS is both but she's still a new world considering Xenosaga is a Namco property and she only gets in things because Monolith Soft and Namco both have a great relationship. If you looked at the interview I posted awhile back you could even see Harada and Takahashi together talking about everything Xeno! I think further dlc will follow the same trend of Character, stage, spirits. If Rex got in then what new spirits would be added for him? I dont know really... also Xenoblade 2 music is already in the game through the mii costume and spirits and they typically add more music for new dlc characters. I'm not saying the ABSOLUTELY CANNOT add more themes from Xenoblade 2... it would just break the current trend we have right now.

I have no problems with the current trend being broken at all, that said there's nothing saying all the future characters are passes or singles like Piranha Plant. Even then there are some notable characters to fill in on the spirits side, Amalthus, Aegaeon, Roc, Vandham, Lora, Addam, The Architect, Haze, (maybe) Hugo, the Torna crew. Xenoblade 2 only takes up three tracks out of Xenoblade's eleven total, 3-8, and there's a lot of iconic music from Xenoblade 2 not in Smash Ultimate and I'd have to say a stage is pretty easy to come up with as well, and of course there's more Mii Costumes they could make too. I think Xenoblade 2 has more than enough un-tapped potential content to be apart of a pass but I wouldn't exactly have any issues with Rex as just a fighter and not bringing anything else with him besides his classic mode and what not. But as I said, I want all the Xeno reps in and I can wait for however long as I need to, though if what Sakurai said is true with "pleasing the fans", I'm sure some Mii Costume, spirits, or assist trophies may be lined up for a promotion, but we won't know until we see it, and while we have the thing of all the current pass fighters being 100% new series (unless you really want to be technical and call Banjo and Kazooie a DK rep because Banjo debuted in Diddy Kong Racing... but that's not the point) I feel like it can change just on a whim, I'll be keeping my thoughts on that whole situation on a 50/50 chance though.

Note/Edit: When I say all Xeno-reps, I do not mean every single character, I mean more like:


Xenoblade 1: Fiora, Mumkhar (Metal Face legit appears about as many times in games as Fiora and Shulk, so... honestly you can't blame me for wanting him over some other villains later on)..
Xenoblade X: Elma
Xenoblade 2: Rex (and whatever blades he brings since there's like 4-5 he has canonically, Pyra and Mythra for sure at the very least).

Xenosaga: KOS-MOS

Xenogears: Fei (probably won't ever happen, but hey, if Fei ever gets in I'll have to stop calling Square stingy when it comes to their Smash Content... unless even he brings less than ten songs... yes I'm still upset with the lack of FF content, so much I'd welcome Sephiroth or Tifa or anyone to bring more FF content to at least equal it to Dragon Quest).

Echo Fighters: Zanza (Shulk), T-elos (KOS-MOS, unless alternate costume).

That said, the obvious meme pick is the Ardainian Soldier alongside his cross-series cousin: Gatekeeper from Fire Emblem: Three Houses.

 

[Deleted member]

I never realized that the planning and development for Xenosaga was so screwed up.
https://xenogearsxenosagastudyguide.blogspot.com/p/the-history-of-xenosaga.html

If anyone is interested in reading about the development of Xenosaga and the reactions to it here it is.
Funny how KOS-MOS and T-ELOS were designed by a hentai artist makes uh... sense.

 

[Deleted member]

Double post delete this

 

[KarneraMythos]

I never realized that the planning and development for Xenosaga was so screwed up.
https://xenogearsxenosagastudyguide.blogspot.com/p/the-history-of-xenosaga.html

If anyone is interested in reading about the development of Xenosaga and the reactions to it here it is.
Funny how KOS-MOS and T-ELOS were designed by a hentai artist makes uh... sense.

D'ohoho, if only you knew Asher...

The truth is, multiple different artists you see illustrating for official video games have portfolios containing vast amounts of pornographic content. In fact, most illustrators get their start that way, because sex sells. Then, after acquiring a name big enough for themselves to get noticed, they are commissioned to provide artwork for video games. After all, just because you can draw content intended for adult audiences doesn't mean you can't draw or don't know how to draw content for all audiences.

In fact, most of them draw ****ed up **** on their own accord, lmao. If you need anymore examples, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and its character designs were made by several different hentai artists. As long as the art and style are good, the past doesn't matter (except for when it's shady ****, but that's a given).

 

[Flyboy]

The fan reaction to Xenosaga is tragic. It's such an amazing series but now Takahashi is jaded and Soraya Saga is too and, ugh. I just want some HD ports so people can appreciate them again.

 

[Natlo]

D'ohoho, if only you knew Asher...

The truth is, multiple different artists you see illustrating for official video games have portfolios containing vast amounts of pornographic content. In fact, most illustrators get their start that way, because sex sells. Then, after acquiring a name big enough for themselves to get noticed, they are commissioned to provide artwork for video games. After all, just because you can draw content intended for adult audiences doesn't mean you can't draw or don't know how to draw content for all audiences.

In fact, most of them draw ****ed up **** on their own accord, lmao. If you need anymore examples, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and its character designs were made by several different hentai artists. As long as the art and style are good, the past doesn't matter (except for when it's shady ****, but that's a given).

Heck, another desired pick, Saber wasn't so much designed by a hentai artist as designed as designed as hentai. Fate/Stay Night in it's original release having sex scenes so pointless subsequent releases changed them out.

 

[KarneraMythos]

Heck, another desired pick, Saber wasn't so much designed by a hentai artist as designed as designed as hentai. Fate/Stay Night in it's original release having sex scenes so pointless subsequent releases changed them out.

And to her credit, the Nasuverse is very fleshed out despite being infamous for its poorly-written sex scenes. It's understandable most of that content was adapted out because its world-building elements carry everything well enough that it has an identity, as contentious as the franchise can be to some.

 

[Smasherfan88]

Heck, another desired pick, Saber wasn't so much designed by a hentai artist as designed as designed as hentai. Fate/Stay Night in it's original release having sex scenes so pointless subsequent releases changed them out.

If I recall the original plans for Stay Night didn't even include nor intended for them, but Nasu was basically forced/convinced to add them to make sales, and as Karnera already said... sex sells. But that's kinda why modern Fate/ Projects rarely reference back to /that/ type of mana transfer. The last I remember it was in Fate/ Extra and even then it happened off-screen with nothing being shown or really... described (after all, Extra was Rated T... in fact most Fate/ projects these days besides the adaptations are).

It doesn't really bother me if character's are designed by those with... risque backgrounds, more-so in Xenoblade 2's case since I remember when people got a bit... /annoying/ with Pyra and Mythra's designs. Because heavens forbid a Nintendo character having a chest bigger than a apple or wear shorts or something near-skin tight. Speaking about him, he also designed one of my favorite servants in FGO, being Bradamante, she's cute. I also believe the guy behind them also made the main protagonist for some 3-D anime movie? Apparently he likes blondes.

Now I'm suddenly reminded when I RP'd a Xenoblade 2 T-elos literally a week before she was announced and released on Twitter and when I changed to Re: her artist followed and low-key tried correcting me on Re's personality being "nicer" than Xenosaga T-elos. it was... embarrassing. More so with the fact I know no one is gonna believe this.

But yeah, I don't really mind if a video-game character or any character is drawn by someone of that background. Unless they uh... you know drew some rather... illegal material. That's a whole different issue we shouldn't delve into.

 

[BlackInk]

Kosmos is a guaranteed fighter to me. Namco is easy as heck to work with as Smash is technically their game. Plus, I think the Xeno stuff in general is probably getting Nintendo support due this game being the ‘ultimate’ experience.

 

[Deleted member]

Kosmos is a guaranteed fighter to me. Namco is easy as heck to work with as Smash is technically their game. Plus, I think the Xeno stuff in general is probably getting Nintendo support due this game being the ‘ultimate’ experience.

That's a bold take, I consider the opposite.

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

Hi all Greetings, I'm here to support the idea for Kos-Mos for smash as i do believe she's the right Namco Representative after Pacman i keep seeing Videos Of Lloyd Irvin or Yuri Lowel(Tales characters) as the proper choice when i say i disagree, Listen True that the Xenosaga Series is like Split on Both Namco and Monolith Soft for the rights but why don't we Let Namco Know we want her, Sakurai already confirmed more DLC are on the way she really deserves to be there HELL what if this send Namco the Message of Hey we want a HD of Xenosaga on the Switch too?! don't you guys with all due respect have though of that? that if we petition Kos-Mos for Smash then to bring the Xenosaga Trilogy to Nintendo? Last year 2018 Namco made a Move for Xenosaga 3 Also Sprach Zarathustra For a copyright we still to this day don't know what that means, However it may have to do something with Monolith i don't know so don't ask me, In the end Please I propose if you guys want to see Kos-Mos in Smash don't come to chat boards saying we want her rather let's do something about it and Tell Namco!.

And the Last thing i want to remeind you the Goku and Iron Man Shutdown of Sakuria's #1 RULE!, ONLY VG Characters and Where did Kos-Mos Showed Up the first time in gaming History? Playstation 2 Xenosaga EP1 Der Wille Zur Macht, Making Her a 100% Video Game character.

 

[PSIGuy]

Reposting from the X thread-

https://www.monolithsoft.co.jp/anniversary20th/

https://www.monolithsoft.co.jp/anniversary20th/images/kv.jpg

Monolith Soft came out with some stuff for their 20th anniversary and naturally Kosmos gets a spot right at the front.

 

[KarneraMythos]

Reposting from the X thread-

https://www.monolithsoft.co.jp/anniversary20th/

https://www.monolithsoft.co.jp/anniversary20th/images/kv.jpg

Monolith Soft came out with some stuff for their 20th anniversary and naturally Kosmos gets a spot right at the front.

And here's a nice, juicy wallpaper of all the characters in their library:

Absolutely gorgeous. Here's to another 20 years everyone!

 

[NobleClamtasm]

Monolith's 20th anniversary artwork. Guess who's front and center?

Spoiler: 20th anniversary artwork

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

This is indeed amaizing but i'm Sorry it still dose not mean anything for Xenosaga if they like don't something for the series sorry not to ruin the mood for it, again I wish one day for Kos-Mos to be in Smash hppy for Monolift but they should revive the Xenosaga Series for Switch and if this by any means mean they have Kos-Mos Right's instead of Namco then what is Stopping them?! O.o

 

[ES. Dinah]

And here's a nice, juicy wallpaper of all the characters in their library:
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Absolutely gorgeous. Here's to another 20 years everyone!

I already set it as my desktop background the second it went live. Words cannot describe how happy this makes me to see her in the front but naturally she’s the symbol of Xeno so it was to be expected. Personally, I’m really wondering why they used Version 1 KOS-MOS and not RE considering she’s most recent. Version 1 KOS-MOS just shows that they love her to death so to speak. She’s the conception of KOS-MOS and I want it as an alt in smash. I do think this could POSSIBLY be something for her in smash. Look at it this way.... it is the 20th anniversary, she’s the symbol of the franchise, Sakurai played xenoblade 2 and Nintendo picked the characters. What’s stopping them from treating this as a love letter to Monolith Soft?

 

[KarneraMythos]

I already set it as my desktop background the second it went live. Words cannot describe how happy this makes me to see her in the front but naturally she’s the symbol of Xeno so it was to be expected. Personally, I’m really wondering why they used Version 1 KOS-MOS and not RE considering she’s most recent. Version 1 KOS-MOS just shows that they love her to death so to speak. She’s the conception of KOS-MOS and I want it as an alt in smash. I do think this could POSSIBLY be something for her in smash. Look at it this way.... it is the 20th anniversary, she’s the symbol of the franchise, Sakurai played xenoblade 2 and Nintendo picked the characters. What’s stopping them from treating this as a love letter to Monolith Soft?

I like to think of it as them taking the character's original concept and going with her roots. It all began with Xenogears, then Xenosaga, and KOS-MOS' first iconic appearance is based on that very model of hers. It's also done to distinguish her from Xenoblade 2's cast, which already has a hefty amount of representation.

Though, I can't help but feel remorse for Fei Fong Wong and the other Xenogears characters. Surely there's no bad blood between Monolith Soft and Square-Enix, but you'd think since Malos and Jin are there, their key artist (Nomura) would bridge something between both companies just to have a back-to-school reunion.

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

I already set it as my desktop background the second it went live. Words cannot describe how happy this makes me to see her in the front but naturally she’s the symbol of Xeno so it was to be expected. Personally, I’m really wondering why they used Version 1 KOS-MOS and not RE considering she’s most recent. Version 1 KOS-MOS just shows that they love her to death so to speak. She’s the conception of KOS-MOS and I want it as an alt in smash. I do think this could POSSIBLY be something for her in smash. Look at it this way.... it is the 20th anniversary, she’s the symbol of the franchise, Sakurai played xenoblade 2 and Nintendo picked the characters. What’s stopping them from treating this as a love letter to Monolith Soft?

Like i said my friend I don't Know what is going to happen, Last Year Namco bandai did a move for the 3rd game for a copyright this could complicate things, also i am growing tired of people requesting characters that don't make any sense in youtube like Minecraft Steve please god now also Please look at this...

>Kos Mos
****ing who? Seriously, who ***** this is?

I found this message in the 4chan boards people don't know Xenosaga, it pains me characters like her are like ignore by some fans instead they want yuri lowell or Lloyd invin or even WORSE STEVE FROM MINECRAFT.

I don't hate tale characters by the way but it pisses me off when good characters like her are ignored or treated like trash.

 

[BlackInk]

Like i said my friend I don't Know what is going to happen, Last Year Namco bandai did a move for the 3rd game for a copyright this could complicate things, also i am growing tired of people requesting characters that don't make any sense in youtube like Minecraft Steve please god now also Please look at this...

>Kos Mos
****ing who? Seriously, who ***** this is?

I found this message in the 4chan boards people don't know Xenosaga, it pains me characters like her are like ignore by some fans instead they want yuri lowell or Lloyd invin or even WORSE STEVE FROM MINECRAFT.

I don't hate tale characters by the way but it pisses me off when good characters like her are ignored or treated like trash.

Minecraft Steve is the indie rep king. Of course they’ll want him and it’s not a bad idea.

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

Minecraft Steve is the indie rep king. Of course they’ll want him and it’s not a bad idea.

for me it is and is cancer. OR is it that you want to tell us indirectly you also want Jason Fortnite?
https://i.redd.it/en7ywgsywlr01.png
you want to see this trash also doing the floss? i don't think so

What Minecraft Steve and Jason Fortnite represents is the mainstream Medea this is gaming and it would be horrible to include said characters like those in it, i'm sorry but i really don't want Steve in smash.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Reminder to everyone that this is a CHARACTER SPECIFIC THREAD for Kos-Mos. Any further conversation about another character should go in the general thread. Further posts will be met with warnings.

 

[Blackthorne]

Very true. Anyways, that Monolith artwork is gorgeous! It's also currently my desktop background (Saber Alter never stood a chance). Also, I'm happy to see KOS-MOS is still being recognized, even as her Ver. 1 Form.

 

[Natlo]

I'm entertained by the KOS-MOS having obviously version one get up*, but the art makes her physically more similar to episode 3 or Xenoblade 2 in looks (facial design and physical proportions.)

*Personally my favourite classic design for her. I never much liked version four. I do like RE though.

 

[Deleted member]

I think they put KOS-MOS in the spotlight since Xenosaga was the first series that Monolith Soft developed, she's still a very marketable character with LOADS of merchandise and maybe should''t be excluded for speculation. I mean she got a new figure this year.

 

[ES. Dinah]

Nintendo of America has tweeted about Monolith Soft's Anniversary! Many people in the comments are asking for KOS-MOS in smash and Xenosaga HD remaster. This is the best way to get word around so spread it if you can!

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I think they put KOS-MOS in the spotlight since Xenosaga was the first series that Monolith Soft developed, she's still a very marketable character with LOADS of merchandise and maybe should''t be excluded for speculation. I mean she got a new figure this year.

She's not excluded from speculation as much now thankfully. In past titles such as wii U and brawl she was turned down a lot. Now every day I feel like she gets a mention somewhere and that is just by google searching by the last 24 hours.

 

[Deleted member]

If KOS-MOS gets into Smash, the community will be saltier than the dead sea.

 

[KarneraMythos]

If KOS-MOS gets into Smash, the community will be saltier than the dead sea.

And frankly, I couldn't care less. The Smash community is absolute garbage anyway. There's showing indifference properly, then there's being whiny, entitled, and downright obnoxious. I have a few friends offline that would collectively groan. Honestly, her and Reimu's potential inclusions would be HUGELY cathartic for me. I wouldn't gloat about it though. I'm too mature for **** like that.

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

Nintendo of America has tweeted about Monolith Soft's Anniversary! Many people in the comments are asking for KOS-MOS in smash and Xenosaga HD remaster. This is the best way to get word around so spread it if you can!

There was a problem fetching the tweet

She's not excluded from speculation as much now thankfully. In past titles such as wii U and brawl she was turned down a lot. Now every day I feel like she gets a mention somewhere and that is just by google searching by the last 24 hours.

The best thing i seen so far But Dinah is still not enough even if poeple post comments on twitter the best way is for content creators to do more Kos-Mos For Smash Videos in youtube, i still hate the fact that in the 4chan boards are still insulting her because the idiots only know Xenoblade and Not Xenosaga.

 

[ES. Dinah]

If KOS-MOS gets into Smash, the community will be saltier than the dead sea.

Dont care. I already have to deal with this on another forum I go on despite many KOS-MOS supporters there. The anti KOS-MOS people on that forum try to gate discussion around characters they don't want for example and it is really annoying. Furthermore, I've seen how garbage the smash community really is and especially Geno and Steve supporters that usually love to downplay any other character. Just look all over the internet, lol. If KOS-MOS got in I will be the first to laugh at those people, personally. It will be a huge in your face kind of thing and the reactions will be amazing.

The best thing i seen so far But Dinah is still not enough even if poeple post comments on twitter the best way is for content creators to do more Kos-Mos For Smash Videos in youtube, i still hate the fact that in the 4chan boards are still insulting her because the idiots only know Xenoblade and Not Xenosaga.

4chan has a pretty huge KOS-MOS fanbase that want her in smash. There's posts there everyday about her. But you have to remember this is 4chan and there will always be idiots over there just because 4chan has toxic culture and not just in the video games board. Also, content on youtube I feel is irrelevant to getting a character in. Message boards are enough to look at to gauge interest.

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

Dont care. I already have to deal with this on another forum I go on despite many KOS-MOS supporters there. The anti KOS-MOS people on that forum try to gate discussion around characters they don't want for example and it is really annoying. Furthermore, I've seen how garbage the smash community really is and especially Geno and Steve supporters that usually love to downplay any other character. Just look all over the internet, lol. If KOS-MOS got in I will be the first to laugh at those people, personally. It will be a huge in your face kind of thing and the reactions will be amazing.


4chan has a pretty huge KOS-MOS fanbase that want her in smash. There's posts there everyday about her. But you have to remember this is 4chan and there will always be idiots over there just because 4chan has toxic culture and not just in the video games board. Also, content on youtube I feel is irrelevant to getting a character in. Message boards are enough to look at to gauge interest.

Greetings again Dinah, wanted to ask you if content creators will not help at all then what can you recommend us? i'm like you i'm annoyed for the fact i'm seeing videos of people supporting characters of recent video games for example Sora, Doomguy or Steve for smash because its the big thing right now? i 100% support the idea of having Both Kos-Mos and Dante for smash, you wanna know another dream match? Kos-Mos againts Sora himself is a dream match, but then again might never happen.

Also Remeinder that for the 2nd Namco Rep people are exploding the fact of Lloyd Irving or Yuri Lowell(Tales Series) like they think is a Locked in choice and it still pisses me off if i go to youtube i would become a target for toxicity, so please i ask you again what can we Kos-Mos supporters do? is it in the hands of Monolith if it is then Kos-Mos should be then its 2nd rep rather than Namco, as long as the characters i want in have some form of Justice to be in the glorious game then i will not care at all if they even add steve, Sora or even Doomguy or Master chief idc.

Still sad about the golden rule of only VG characters goku was the internet breaker sorry if i speak about it , but again i'm here and i support Kos-Mos 100% even if others think of this as a joke character she is not.

 

[Deleted member]

Greetings again Dinah, wanted to ask you if content creators will not help at all then what can you recommend us? i'm like you i'm annoyed for the fact i'm seeing videos of people supporting characters of recent video games for example Sora, Doomguy or Steve for smash because its the big thing right now? i 100% support the idea of having Both Kos-Mos and Dante for smash, you wanna know another dream match? Kos-Mos againts Sora himself is a dream match, but then again might never happen.

Also Remeinder that for the 2nd Namco Rep people are exploding the fact of Lloyd Irving or Yuri Lowell(Tales Series) like they think is a Locked in choice and it still pisses me off if i go to youtube i would become a target for toxicity, so please i ask you again what can we Kos-Mos supporters do? is it in the hands of Monolith if it is then Kos-Mos should be then its 2nd rep rather than Namco, as long as the characters i want in have some form of Justice to be in the glorious game then i will not care at all if they even add steve, Sora or even Doomguy or Master chief idc.

Still sad about the golden rule of only VG characters goku was the internet breaker sorry if i speak about it , but again i'm here and i support Kos-Mos 100% even if others think of this as a joke character she is not.

The problem with KOS-MOS is that not many people played Xenosaga, compared to KH, DOOM, and minecraft which are extremely popular. Youtube is terrible since they make videos of popular characters since that's what people want to see and creators will do that to get more views, just look at "leak videos".

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

The problem with KOS-MOS is that not many people played Xenosaga, compared to KH, DOOM, and minecraft which are extremely popular. Youtube is terrible since they make videos of popular characters since that's what people want to see and creators will do that to get more views, just look at "leak videos".

Sorry for the late reply, Yes your right those leak videos are nothing more than fan requests again those guys want characters that are in the spotlight more than this classic queen(Kos-Mos) they don't know nothing about her.

I ask again if youtube dose not work then what else can we do? how can we tell Monolith or Namco Or Sakurai to reincosider Kos-Mos? i wish we can have a HD remaster version, Asher dude i apologize i just wish this character gets some justice her being in Smash is a dream.

I posted this today in a youtube Video is the least i can do.
https://imgur.com/jv5IrJc

Dammit we lost E.S. Asher now what? you see guys this is depressing, ugh what else can i do to support this? and there videos of false leakers already confirming DLC 5 and stuff i mean come on dammit.

Sigh

 

[ES. Dinah]

So why did E.S Asher delete their account?

Also, I understand where you are coming from with the concerns over people requesting the same characters but just remember that that alone wont affect KOS-MOS's chances of getting in. I mean just take a fighter like Joker. Did anyone ask for him? NO. Did people ask for DQ? Nope... they only followed the leaks. The only character that has been asked for is Banjo. IMO, that just further improves chances for KOS-MOS. It is obviously not a who gets the most clicks contest here besides Ridley and K rool but they have been asked for a very long time.

 

[Suiren_Kirin]

Good to all, I introduce myself I am Suiren, I write this post from Spain (Sorry if my English is not very accurate).

I have been reading this thread for several days and I wanted to thank you for all your effort and passion towards the Xenosaga saga, thank you very much to the creator of this thread (ES Dinah) for all your efforts both in providing information and in defending Kos-Mos in other threads (Gamefaqs) as well as all those who have also helped to increase their popularity within the community.

Regarding Kos-mos, I have not had the opportunity to play the trilogy (I have not been able to emulate it despite my efforts), however I have seen all the cinematics on YouTube and his anime, I also got his blade at Xenoblade (where I met her for the first time) and I'm a big fan of xenoblade 2 (I've played 350 hours approximately).

For all that I have been able to investigate about her inclusion in Smash bros Ultimate, I could guarantee that she has a HIGH probability of entering. All the evidence to have contributed, its great potential also recognized by Sakurai, and its popularity and niche within Namco as the jewel and symbol of a great saga such as Xeno makes it a strong representative at the same level as Terry could be for SNK .

My prediction for the 5 DLC is not KOS-MOS, I consider that she will be the next one after this, that in this case it would be up to DOOM Slayer because of its proximity to Eternal. However I have no doubt that KOS-MOS does have its slot for Smash and I can imagine it being part of that great official mural with all the fighters, the fact that Namco only has Pacman and that Sakurai works in offices of Namco whose workers are developing the game makes me think that KOS-MOS would be a gift not only for their fans but also for their own workers as a thank you for their years of work.

This is all I wanted to say, support for KOS-MOS, she will be inside, thank you all.

 

[Deleted member]

Hello.

I came here to lend my support.

I want to support because not only was I intrigued with her after playing Xenoblade 2, but also because as of right now, we are lacking a female DLC character. I personally find her concept interesting, and I do hope she would make it into Smash. Thank you fo rconsideration.

My prediction for the 5 DLC is not KOS-MOS, I consider that she will be the next one after this, that in this case it would be up to DOOM Slayer because of its proximity to Eternal. However I have no doubt that KOS-MOS does have its slot for Smash and I can imagine it being part of that great official mural with all the fighters, the fact that Namco only has Pacman and that Sakurai works in offices of Namco whose workers are developing the game makes me think that KOS-MOS would be a gift not only for their fans but also for their own workers as a thank you for their years of work.

I highly doubt it will be Doom slayer. This pass needs just one female character, and I believe she is the best candidate. If you want Doom Slayer, go for Season 2 DLC, not now.

 

[⛧Lord Metallium⛧]

So why did E.S Asher delete their account?

Also, I understand where you are coming from with the concerns over people requesting the same characters but just remember that that alone wont affect KOS-MOS's chances of getting in. I mean just take a fighter like Joker. Did anyone ask for him? NO. Did people ask for DQ? Nope... they only followed the leaks. The only character that has been asked for is Banjo. IMO, that just further improves chances for KOS-MOS. It is obviously not a who gets the most clicks contest here besides Ridley and K rool but they have been asked for a very long time.

We can only hope so.