hoopspr226
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KDJ just won the Nintendo Brawl release tournament in Boston while using Sheik.
Sheik = not so nerfed after all?
Sheik = not so nerfed after all?
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Explain.i loled for some reason. i guess its because noobs still got no chance
That's the truth folks.Sheik was nerfed, Korean DJ wasn't.
All that needed to be said.Sheik was nerfed, Korean DJ wasn't.
Good players understand fundamental PRINCIPLES of smart smashing as well as the specific techniques of melee.Explain.
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He made me want to play Sheik again...
**** what a finish from KDJ!
I'm pretty sure that would all happen only because he's KoreanDJ.for all we know, he could have won every round by having a Smart Bomb spawn next to him, used it to simultaneously blow up his opponent and break a Smash Ball, used the Light Arrow to KO his opponent while they were still being burned by the SBomb, then had an Assist Trophy spawn Lyn for him while his opponent was respawning.
I bet he wuz usin mewtwo hax.I'm pretty sure that would all happen only because he's KoreanDJ.
"Competitive" players who compete on a game that doesn't have the level of intricacy that some truly competitive fighter games have.It's not unique, it's dumb. Not everyone likes losing because of luck, especially competitive players (who go on this site).
You don't seem to know much about competitive gaming in general...do you? If you're going to be on smashboards, at least be aware about what the competitive scene for this game series has been for the past like...6 years?Dissing Nintendo for basing their tournaments on the complete representation of the game instead of an isolated part of the game to satisfy a rather narrow and misplaced demographic seems disingenuous at best.
Because losing by luck isn't fun when money is on the line lolThere are plenty of games not built around randomness; why try to force tournament designers to put out SSBB tournaments without one of the primary elements with which it was designed?
.......nah..........I'd rather just go to the "none" button under items.Just play another game if this aspect bothers you too much.
Yeah, it's Flandre Scarlet, Extra Stage boss of EoSD.I bet he wuz usin mewtwo hax.
Off-topic, Ankoku, is your sig Touhou?
Hurray for selective quotes.You don't seem to know much about competitive gaming in general...do you? If you're going to be on smashboards, at least be aware about what the competitive scene for this game series has been for the past like...6 years?
Because losing by luck isn't fun when money is on the line lol
Also, tournament designers have already banned items from tournament play...
I mean, I can only assume you mean Nintendo's tournaments, but they aren't even considered the least bit competitive, simply a joke for free prizes (just like how it was in Melee).
Also, don't expect to see many Nintendo tournaments in general (just like Melee), so the majority of tournaments will be hosted by those who are aware of the competitive scene that has been existent for years.
The most common rule???? NO items.
.......nah..........I'd rather just go to the "none" button under items.
Also, it doesn't bother me too much since competitive tournaments have and will continue to ban items lol.
Items are fun casually, but no fun when you're actually trying to win with your own skill.
Welcome to an internet forum!Hurray for selective quotes.
Well, obviously...actually, Sakurai says Smash was never meant to be competitive in general.- Just because a group of people have been playing competitively a game for 6 year does not mean the game was designed to be played competitively in the way this demographic has conceived of.
Competitive entertainment =/= competitive gaming....you didn't read what I said. I actually had a feeling you would bring up poker, so I watched my wording.- Um, most forms of competitive entertainment that bear financial opportunities have quite a bit of luck factor involved, which hasn't stopped them from being fun. Poker, for example, still incorporates quite a bit of randomness in its tournaments.
You:"Why try to force tournament designers to put out SSBB tournaments without one of the primary elements with which it was designed?"- I already mentioned that most tournament designers ban items and stages, THUS making any whining concerning a minority of tournaments including luck quite the petulant behavior.
Me: Also, it doesn't bother me too much since competitive tournaments have and will continue to ban items lol.- Nobody is denying you that option.
Selective as in showing only a part of my text that makes it seem as if I'm sending a different message from what was intended.Welcome to an internet forum!
OK.Well, obviously...actually, Sakurai says Smash was never meant to be competitive in general.
Plus, the simple reason why we HAVE TO TURN THEM OFF is good enough to see it was meant to be played with items, especially Brawl.
You interpret gaming solely on virtual terms. I assumed a broader definition of a game, one which happens to include all sorts of sports.Competitive entertainment =/= competitive gaming....you didn't read what I said. I actually had a feeling you would bring up poker, so I watched my wording.
Anyways, I can't find any competiive gaming community where luck/randomness is a common element for winning tournament sets. I want to say Pokemon...since moves like double team and 1 hit ko moves are based on luck...however they ban those moves from competitive play. Pros even give their pokemon high % of hitting moves instead of more powerful but less accurate moves to avoid random luck/misfortune.
Me: "Besides, it's not as if tournaments designed with items being banned are lacking"You:"Why try to force tournament designers to put out SSBB tournaments without one of the primary elements with which it was designed?"
*Meant to be humorous* Actually, people would be hard-pressed to ***** about Peach's wonder-kills considering she's been nerfed into oblivion.But it's still very reasonable, especially when more and more unfair items are made haha...."I lost 500 dollars to someone because he got a smash ball at the end".
Then again, I can only assume you haven't played Smash or any game in general competitively, but rather, always casually. Nothing wrong with that, but you wouldn't understand how important the removal of the slightlest luck from serious tournament sets is.
People flip out when they lose by a Peach pulling out a bomb or stickface![]()
You did mention gambling, though, which is in itself luck. That's not quite the case with most games. <_>You interpret gaming solely on virtual terms. I assumed a broader definition of a game, one which happens to include all sorts of sports.
Riiiight. >_>Wow every Lucas is the same.
Every time me and my friends play, one will be Lucas and all he uses is,B moves,Usmash,and SideSmash.How cheap and boring .
Oh god another idiot who edits his posts in word and uses shft-f7 to try and look intelligent. Composing a sentance using "That's why I think " and "Just because a group of people have been playing competitively a game for 6 year" then tacking on a word you couldn't comprehend if I force fed you pig brains for a few years. Just stop posting for the love of god, you truelly give these forums a bad name.Selective as in showing only a part of my text that makes it seem as if I'm sending a different message from what was intended.
OK.
You interpret gaming solely on virtual terms. I assumed a broader definition of a game, one which happens to include all sorts of sports.
Me: "Besides, it's not as if tournaments designed with items being banned are lacking"
I mentioned that there are alternatives which also happen to be the majority. That's why I think the complaints about a different yet rather rare tournament that include items are asinine.
*Meant to be humorous* Actually, people would be hard-pressed to ***** about Peach's wonder-kills considering she's been nerfed into oblivion.
Perhaps I don't take it so hard because I go with the mindset that randomness can be part of the game. I'm aware of the risks I'm taking. Nevertheless, I think I can empathize with those less comfortable, as we humans often prefer certainty.
It all comes down to my issue with people allowing themselves to be blind-sided by the rare occasion that an item-including tourney is, trying to question KoreanDJ's ability-- which even with items can be shown to be impeccable by watching his gameplay and mastery of Sheik play-- just because he got a kill at the end with a Smash attack, a kill that was certain even without getting a Smash Ball.
"truelly"Oh god another idiot who edits his posts in word and uses shft-f7 to try and look intelligent. Composing a sentance using "That's why I think " and "Just because a group of people have been playing competitively a game for 6 year" then tacking on a word you couldn't comprehend if I force fed you pig brains for a few years. Just stop posting for the love of god, you truelly give these forums a bad name.