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Koopa VS Kefka -- The Endless Tournament ends! Who took home the prize?

#HBC | Laundry

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the **** is this? You're lumping me in with those 2?

smh
Why don't you respond to the slew of **** that's directed at you instead of taking potshots at Ruy for doing it. You have been called out and you've made no response to it, just poked at people who are even considering you. Throwing blanket **** around ain't gonna cut it.
 

#HBC | Joker

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I don't have any idea what I'm being accused of. You say I've been called out, but for what? For pushing Rake before he died? Why is that scummy? I've already addressed why it's not. Saying I haven't "addressed the points made against me" is bull****, unless you have something new to bring to the table. Nobody has done that.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Washed, I know you don't want to waste the removal on small-fry as you said, but it really isn't about the small-fry, it's just about gaining a numbers game. I see no reason to let him keep cheating his way to victory (because if you really believe Pawndidater has gone completely without losses out of sheer talent I don't know what to tell you) and not just remove him. I don't what kind of bigger fry you're honestly looking for Washed. Who is the other target that is more of a threat than someone who we believe is scum and high on the leaderboards?
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Washed, I know you don't want to waste the removal on small-fry as you said, but it really isn't about the small-fry, it's just about gaining a numbers game. I see no reason to let him keep cheating his way to victory (because if you really believe Pawndidater has gone completely without losses out of sheer talent I don't know what to tell you) and not just remove him. I don't what kind of bigger fry you're honestly looking for Washed. Who is the other target that is more of a threat than someone who we believe is scum and high on the leaderboards?
The other guy with 9 gogdamn points.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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I don't have any idea what I'm being accused of. You say I've been called out, but for what? For pushing Rake before he died? Why is that scummy? I've already addressed why it's not. Saying I haven't "addressed the points made against me" is bull****, unless you have something new to bring to the table. Nobody has done that.
why don't you respond to jerkus' posts they're that way
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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You still think Jerkus is scum? I'm just not seeing it. I think he's salvaged a pretty ****ty slot fairly well, and he's certainly more help than pawn over there.
I hate Pawn more right now but do explain what Circus did himself that salvaged him in your eyes?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Just how he's handling this situation. I feel even if he's Scum he will be more willing to work with. I agree with most of his poitns and his idea of how to handle this game falls under how I feel it should be handled too. More importantly, Pawn seems quick to remove Jerkus. Do you think as partners he would be willing to throw him under the bus just like that for his own safety? If they were scum together, wouldn't it be more in their favor to keep each other alive? I don't see that. I feel the idea of a Pawn/Jerkus team is absolutely ludicrous in this regard, and with Pawn being much more damning and much less helpful, he should be the one we remove.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Just how he's handling this situation. I feel even if he's Scum he will be more willing to work with. I agree with most of his poitns and his idea of how to handle this game falls under how I feel it should be handled too. More importantly, Pawn seems quick to remove Jerkus. Do you think as partners he would be willing to throw him under the bus just like that for his own safety? If they were scum together, wouldn't it be more in their favor to keep each other alive? I don't see that. I feel the idea of a Pawn/Jerkus team is absolutely ludicrous in this regard, and with Pawn being much more damning and much less helpful, he should be the one we remove.
what part of pawn's play suggests he even wants to be alive right now. everything he does reeks of being a distraction at best right now. why are you aiming to reward him over jerkus who still sits in the dentist chair waiting for me to yank his teeth just so he'll do something
 

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what part of pawn's play suggests he even wants to be alive right now. everything he does reeks of being a distraction at best right now. why are you aiming to reward him over jerkus who still sits in the dentist chair waiting for me to yank his teeth just so he'll do something
We knows scums roles, somewhat.

Which one would off themselves at this point? Restaurant poisoner is the only one I thing that would.
 

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I guess no one really wanted to answer me and activity plummeted again. I think we just need to get this game over with because I've already lost interest in it and I'm sure it's the same for the rest of the player list.
 

#HBC | Joker

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why don't you respond to jerkus' posts they're that way
Respond to what? Respond to the fact that replacing into Gheb's slot sucks ass? Yea it does. It doesn't make it stop being a scummy slot, though. There's nothing to respond to. You can't just keep saying "you need to respond though" and expect me to magically generate content.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Respond to what? Respond to the fact that replacing into Gheb's slot sucks ***? Yea it does. It doesn't make it stop being a scummy slot, though. There's nothing to respond to. You can't just keep saying "you need to respond though" and expect me to magically generate content.
Nah, see, this is being biased. Why don't you take off the blinders and go reads his comments again.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Of MAF's four members: each one interferes with the standard play of one of the four phases of Day Cycle 1. They cannot communicate privately without being in a hotel room with each other, except for one member with a trick up his sleeve... or rather, a phone in his pocket, and he's keeping an eye out for the Tourney Cop, too. One shadowy member has an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of Koopa VS Kefka characters, and no non-disclosure agreement is going to stop him from exploiting it. Or, will he take even harsher steps? Another is eager to make money, even at the expense of other hard-working restauranteurs, and other players' personal health. And yet one more is a top tournament player of another franchise, who thinks fresh blood in the fighting game market is a death knell for his ailing community, and isn't afraid to demonstrate how unbalanced this character roster really is. If you're town, don't let these scoundrels win!
In the OP.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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what part of pawn's play suggests he even wants to be alive right now. everything he does reeks of being a distraction at best right now. why are you aiming to reward him over jerkus who still sits in the dentist chair waiting for me to yank his teeth just so he'll do something

Give him what he wants??? He is not helping town at all?? He is a useless slot who keeps winning games??? Our goal should be eliminating scum in any matter we have it, not ****ing trying to make it into some contrived process in which we're looking for the "bigger fish to fry". I'm way more certain in Pawn being scum over Circus. I would rather take such a risky chance with Removal on someone who I know will probably flip scum (and you even agree) instead of going 'well Circus is a bigger threat!!! Gheb did some stupid things!!!'
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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think a little bit soup

I have a question for you: Are both Circus and Pawn scum?

I have another question: Who the **** besides Circus/Pawn would you take the chances at removal?

Before you answer the first one, look into what I said about Pawn/Circus probably not being aligned. Do you disagree? If yes, move on to the next question. Proceed.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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I have a question for you: Are both Circus and Pawn scum?

I have another question: Who the **** besides Circus/Pawn would you take the chances at removal?

Before you answer the first one, look into what I said about Pawn/Circus probably not being aligned. Do you disagree? If yes, move on to the next question. Proceed.
1) Not wholly sure but I think so.

2) Take chances at is another story but I certainly wouldn't mind entertaining more possibilities than those two.

now stop being so rashly obtuse and let me do my thing.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Respond to what? Respond to the fact that replacing into Gheb's slot sucks ***? Yea it does. It doesn't make it stop being a scummy slot, though. There's nothing to respond to. You can't just keep saying "you need to respond though" and expect me to magically generate content.
Or, hell, just read mine instead of constantly saying "You guys are ****ing ******** if you think I'm scum." There's logic to it and honestly it's not faulty either. Just because Circus noticed it doesn't make it wrong.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Give him what he wants??? He is not helping town at all?? He is a useless slot who keeps winning games??? Our goal should be eliminating scum in any matter we have it, not ****ing trying to make it into some contrived process in which we're looking for the "bigger fish to fry". I'm way more certain in Pawn being scum over Circus. I would rather take such a risky chance with Removal on someone who I know will probably flip scum (and you even agree) instead of going 'well Circus is a bigger threat!!! Gheb did some stupid things!!!'
No but for real, disclosing the idea that Circus might be scum just because you don't think so for reasons I don't really understand why is nearsighted. Pawn is useless, yes. Pawn is a distraction, yes. Pawn is still somehow winning every game, yes. I'm not blind to these things. I've even pointblank called him scum and I'd be a ****** to fall into the same trap I did in MP2 Mafia. As far as I'm concerned, he's a done deal and if push comes to shove, I will remove him. But think a little bit. I'm doing what I'm doing for a reason. I've got two obstinate children denying me every opportunity to read them and if push comes to shove I want the option open to remove them as well.
 

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Or, hell, just read mine instead of constantly saying "You guys are ****ing ******** if you think I'm scum." There's logic to it and honestly it's not faulty either. Just because Circus noticed it doesn't make it wrong.
but none of it is anything I haven't explained, and you constantly telling me "you need to respond to points raised against you" is not helpful, when u don't tell me what they are. You're being as uncooperative as humanly possible, and it's pissing me off.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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1) Not wholly sure but I think so.

2) Take chances at is another story but I certainly wouldn't mind entertaining more possibilities than those two.

now stop being so rashly obtuse and let me do my thing.

I'm interested in why you think they're aligned. Elaborate on it for me. I don't have anything about why I don't think they aren't aligned from observation and my own judgment.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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I'm interested in why you think they're aligned. Elaborate on it for me. I don't have anything about why I don't think they aren't aligned from observation and my own judgment.
My only evidence that they're aligned is simply that I think both are scum. They've had no interaction despite being in the same room due to neither being here for grand portions of the game, so anything that would suggest that they are or aren't aligned isn't there at all.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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but none of it is anything I haven't explained, and you constantly telling me "you need to respond to points raised against you" is not helpful, when u don't tell me what they are. You're being as uncooperative as humanly possible, and it's pissing me off.
Yeh says the guy digging his heels into the dirt. There were responses to what you said yet you've disregarded them in favor of taking shots at Circus because "lol he's scum". Don't tell me I'm not being cooperative when this is exactly what you're doing.
 

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I've even pointblank called him scum and I'd be a ****** to fall into the same trap I did in MP2 Mafia.

What trap are you referring to? Just wondering. (Don't remember)

How are you feeling about Circus now?
 

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Yeh says the guy digging his heels into the dirt. There were responses to what you said yet you've disregarded them in favor of taking shots at Circus because "lol he's scum". Don't tell me I'm not being cooperative when this is exactly what you're doing.
There are NO "responses". All there has been is people going "I agree with Circus, while simultaneously still wanting to remove him".

Explain to me how I'm supposed to respond to that. I've explained my actions, explaining them again doesn't change anything. They are also ideas that have a difficult time coexisting in the first place. Even if there were responses to be had (there aren't), they wouldn't be worthwhile. I'm honestly baffled at how stupid and stubborn you are being for NO REASON.
 

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Can we stop dragging this day out?

Laundry, I get it you want to ask more and in a game with no time limit that is fine and all but stagnation is defiantly here. We need to address this sooner than later, pawn needs to go over Circus. I do not think Circus can be trusted, but he is far easier to read and deal with. No plan you can come up with can't be applied to Circus to control him.

End Pawn, let's get this moving.
 

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