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Koopa VS Kefka -- The Endless Tournament ends! Who took home the prize?

Kantrip

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to be fair, I can see Kantrip's logic in not using our removal vote on the first scum we find. Letting the tourney cop remove them, and thus, taking their spot in bracket, gives us a 100% cleared player in bracket. It would actually be a really smart idea to guarantee that a townie was safely advancing through bracket.

However, the flaw in Kantrip's plan is that we have no recourse to punish people who don't comply.



We can't vote to remove players once the cop is cleared. Perhaps you should have taken a glance at the rules before cooking up this plan. It took me exactly 5 seconds to find this, because it's literally the first sentence in the section that explains removal.
We do have a way to punish them though. If they don't comply, they are instantly scum and the tourney cop will review their matches until they are kicked the **** out of the tourney for cheating. Basically if they don't comply, they don't get to cheat anymore AND we put them under suspicion the following Day phase.
 

Kantrip

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Gheb's reads don't really make sense at all. soup and me are fairly common scumreads, but not both of us on the same team. I don't see on what planet THAT would make sense. I need PP explained too.
 

Kantrip

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Gheb and soup are scummy. I think the Xonar hydra is lurky and not doing anything townie. I still have a gut dislike of Rake. I haven't looked at any sort of connections to make a team, but these slots I dislike in a vacuum.
You, PJB, Ruy, Super Fab are not scum.
 

Kantrip

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Town lean. PP is a town lean too, they're just not in the not scum category because I could easily be mistaken on them.
 

Kantrip

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I think I worded that as intended. They are not in the "definitively notscum" you asked me, but they are leaning town. I'm just not sure about those reads like I am about my four top town reads.
 

Kantrip

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Actually you know what? This is gonna sound stupid but the more I think about it the less I like the slot.

Okay so early they commended me for my content. They stressed the importance of having a direction in this game and all that. They asked a bunch of questions, did a bunch of stuff that looks pro-town, right? This is not the basis for a townread. They really didn't do anything with this. What's more? They completely turned their townread on me around when I don't think they would have had it in the first place as town. It was too early to just call someone town for having a direction, and they (Washed specifically) wouldn't have done it as town.

The fact that they swapped their read on me when I slowed down my content kind of bugs me, especially when they've done the same thing. They have up and disappeared. They stressed the importance of direction, and where have they been? Not pushing whatever direction they had, that's for sure.

I don't know, the hydra seems like the sort that would put a lot of importance on looking town, which they did. But how I'm reading them now is a slot that has stances that don't make sense and didn't follow up on their direction earlier in the game. Now they aren't even here. I dunno, I feel like I want to move them down to null or maybe even scum.

Yeah, probably scum.
 

Wots All This Then?

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Lack of PP getting on my nerves, but I know J's bugged down with jobs and such and laundry's not posting in either of his games so that's a factor to consider.
Funny how I mention Pawn and he shows up.
Better convince me not to go with dietz's reads on you Pawn
 

pawndidater2

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For whatever reason he just seems neutral to me. That yellow post from a few days ago stands out as being kinda townie but not so much as to really sway my opinion. Looking through his other posts is doing nothing for me.
 

Picture Perfect

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Actually you know what? This is gonna sound stupid but the more I think about it the less I like the slot.

Okay so early they commended me for my content. They stressed the importance of having a direction in this game and all that. They asked a bunch of questions, did a bunch of stuff that looks pro-town, right? This is not the basis for a townread. They really didn't do anything with this. What's more? They completely turned their townread on me around when I don't think they would have had it in the first place as town. It was too early to just call someone town for having a direction, and they (Washed specifically) wouldn't have done it as town.

The fact that they swapped their read on me when I slowed down my content kind of bugs me, especially when they've done the same thing. They have up and disappeared. They stressed the importance of direction, and where have they been? Not pushing whatever direction they had, that's for sure.

I don't know, the hydra seems like the sort that would put a lot of importance on looking town, which they did. But how I'm reading them now is a slot that has stances that don't make sense and didn't follow up on their direction earlier in the game. Now they aren't even here. I dunno, I feel like I want to move them down to null or maybe even scum.

Yeah, probably scum.
1. Your decreasing lack of interest or input as the game progressed had me doubt you. You're not as innocent as you think you are. I never said you were outright scum, as I can see town intent in your actions as well, I merely just doubt you because I can see scum intent too.
2. You say I lack direction. At this point, both J and I have tried to progress things in our head but we are both waiting for more information. We have mined about as much out of the thread as we can, but we want to see what match results can tell us first before we continue. We have our reads in place, but we want more.
3. Where did we slow down on content? Because we weren't actively here throughout the day? I've been trying my ass off to get people to stop playing like indies and to try to start discussion about scum. Where have you been?
 

Kantrip

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1. Your decreasing lack of interest or input as the game progressed had me doubt you. You're not as innocent as you think you are. I never said you were outright scum, as I can see town intent in your actions as well, I merely just doubt you because I can see scum intent too.
2. You say I lack direction. At this point, both J and I have tried to progress things in our head but we are both waiting for more information. We have mined about as much out of the thread as we can, but we want to see what match results can tell us first before we continue. We have our reads in place, but we want more.
3. Where did we slow down on content? Because we weren't actively here throughout the day? I've been trying my *** off to get people to stop playing like indies and to try to start discussion about scum. Where have you been?
If I've had a decreasing lack of input, then so have you. You said it made you doubt me, so I don't see why you have a problem with me mirroring that action. I would like to know what you think of my recent content.
 

Kantrip

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pawn are you actually kidding me? You cant get a read on me? Aren't I your match opponent? Aren't you going to try to remedy this before you do stuff in our match? Isn't that kind of important?
 

pawndidater2

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Alright, but don't you think outlining everyone's daily eating habits publicly in thread has more cons than simply discussing who wished to go to the restaurant that got hit after a poisoning?

The way it is now mafia has to either guess/hit people at random or personally lead a room to a poisoned restaurant. If we out eating tendencies then they have the ability to guess what people might be inclined to answer for their eating choices in a vacuum (even if mostly random).
I don't see how mafia is not guessing if we tell or not. They are trying to read into WIFOM.
I don't like this from RR. It feels like he's trying to make it easier for mafia to guess our eating habits.
 
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