Ahz, awright, my bad then.I'm not saying you're speaking out of theory. I phrased it wrong.
What I'm trying to say is, when I look at the theory, yeah, I can see Kirby having a hard time. But when I go and play the match-up, it doesn't feel disadvantaged. Maybe it's my playstyle, dunno.
Well, maybe it's just that you're that much better than him? No offense meant, by the way. Here in PR, LingLing is the best player so you can imagine his skill is pretty high, and beating him by outplaying him requires a lot of skill. Maybe it's my playstyle as well here, but I think that next time we discuss the MU discussion, I'd like to hear everything the DDD players want to say about the MU. Maybe they have outdated info? maybe the ones who made it 45:55 our favor were the ones never at tourneys/the ones who play against ChuDat?
I mean, I've tackled the MU from many different angles, and it just seems to me that DDD has the advantage. His playstyle is more or less like ours (fish for grabs, edgeguard, play footsies by aircamping...), except that his damage output has a higher "no less than" than our damage output (he does no less than 16% with a grab, we do no less than 10% with a grab), he survives longer, his bair has more range and speed (we either trade hits or are beaten), his grab range is better than ours, and has some kill setups (Buuman Trap)... This along with the experience I have gotten pretty much point towards DDD having an advantage...
I mean, I **** other DDDs real bad (as a matter of fact, I even **** MKs and Snakes here), like 3-stock tourney-match ****, but the way he uses his DDD taught me that the MU wasn't as easy as I thought it to be. It's not that he's a better player or than I'm a better player, it's that DDD's tools are better than Kirby's. And I've tried finding ways I can change my opinion, but the more I play with him, the more the opinion tightens in my mind.