Kirby 0-death against Bowser?

[powuh_of_PIE]

While messing around with lvl 9 random CPUs, I discovered that the Gonzo combo on the edge against a Bowser leads into a dair that leaves him too low to recover. I don't know any good Bowser mains to test this against a human, but the CPU couldn't get out of it. As far as the combo goes, I narrowed it down to the fact that the second grab should leave Kirby at the edge holding Bowser over the edge. After the throw and uair a SHdair is within reach. And when it's not on the edge this combo nets a decent 45% damage on average.

I could be talking out of my arse here, but in case I'm not someone should test this with a human.

 

[CaliburChamp]

While messing around with lvl 9 random CPUs, I discovered that the Gonzo combo on the edge against a Bowser leads into a dair that leaves him too low to recover. I don't know any good Bowser mains to test this against a human, but the CPU couldn't get out of it. As far as the combo goes, I narrowed it down to the fact that the second grab should leave Kirby at the edge holding Bowser over the edge. After the throw and uair a SHdair is within reach. And when it's not on the edge this combo nets a decent 45% damage on average.

I could be talking out of my arse here, but in case I'm not someone should test this with a human.

It works on heavy characters, not just Bowser. I think this is the combo your talking about... it starts in the beginning of the match. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6hmw-9MJn90

 

[Xanthus]

Haha, that looks pretty sweet. :D

 

[powuh_of_PIE]

Yep, that's the one, though you used a fair, uair also works
also with bowser a footstool jump was not required
but yeah is it a guaranteed 0-death?

 

[CaliburChamp]

Yep, that's the one, though you used a fair, uair also works
also with bowser a footstool jump was not required
but yeah is it a guaranteed 0-death?

Depends on what stage they are on, and I believe they can air dodge. So its not guaranteed.

 

[MrEh]

I think Bowser can Fortress through the Dair with proper timing...

Hmm...

 

[t!MmY]

Considering Kirby's D-air takes 18 frames of start-up, this leaves plenty of time for Bowser to Fortress and punish Kirby.

 

[Kirby Magatsu]

Oh my god T!mmy, you know the frames! xD

And DDD can back from the dair too.

 

[DFat2]

Considering Kirby's D-air takes 18 frames of start-up, this leaves plenty of time for Bowser to Fortress and punish Kirby.

But the D-air has multiple hits. What if you do it early?

 

[Megavitamins]

The 1st frame of dair comes out on the 18th frame, what do the other hits t hat come out after it have ANYTHING to do with it?

 

[MK26]

Considering Kirby's D-air takes 18 frames of start-up, this leaves plenty of time for Bowser to Fortress and punish Kirby.

You know the data and you havent posted it? Why?

Post it now.

 

[A1lion835]

I suppose a footstool to a falling dair on them would be a good idea... hm. This could seriously help my Kirby game.