KingJigglypuff's Project M Throne Room! 09/08/2019: Fighting Alloy Team Pack Updated

[KingJigglypuff]

Will PM V3 Zard have Glair and Flare Blitz?

There will be two versions for the PM version. One with PM Specials and one with Sm4sh Specials.

 

[Notshane]

Small talk ignored once again. Ah, well, I guess it is time to throw in the towel and ask a question I know will get answered.

KingJigglypuff, will the Wii U Charizard port also include his final smash from that game? Or, are you going to use Charizard Y instead to make your own original concept? If these are too deep of questions to answer, feel free to ignore them completely.

 

[KingJigglypuff]

Small talk ignored once again. Ah, well, I guess it is time to throw in the towel and ask a question I know will get answered.

u wot, m8?

(senses glare from KingJigglypuff)

You wanna go, mate? I'll bash yer head in, I swear on me mum.

KingJigglypuff, will the Wii U Charizard port also include his final smash from that game? Or, are you going to use Charizard Y instead to make your own original concept? If these are too deep of questions to answer, feel free to ignore them completely.

I'm not sure if file size limitations will allow me to do that. I'd love to, but I'm not sure if it's even possible, even if I did have the file size room for it.

 

[Notshane]

u wot, m8?

Do, dodo, dodo ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ AH! He noticed me!

You wanna go, mate? I'll bash yer head in, I swear on me mum.

O rly? ( ᐛ )و I'd like to see you try.

I'm not sure if file size limitations will allow me to do that. I'd love to, but I'm not sure if it's even possible, even if I did have the file size room for it.

Someone made a Charizard Y final smash once, so if I ever found that, you could use that as a base. It surrounded the foe in a flame column well Charizard Y circled them, but I forgot what he did after that.[/QUOTE]

 

[KingJigglypuff]

Do, dodo, dodo ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ AH! He noticed me!

So all this time, you just wanted senpai to notice you. :v

O rly? ( ᐛ )و I'd like to see you try.

1 v 1 me.

Someone made a Charizard Y final smash once, so if I ever found that, you could use that as a base. It surrounded the foe in a flame column well Charizard Y circled them, but I forgot what he did after that.

That was my Solo Charizard, which used Link as a base. :L

 

[Notshane]

So all this time, you just wanted senpai to notice you. :v

That's all I ever wanted in this thread ( ;△; )

1 v 1 me.

My blade is ready if your long, red tongue is.

(goodness this sounds bad, I hope he gets that it is a reference to his main)

That was my Solo Charizard, which used Link as a base. :L

Hmm, right. I seem to forget you are among the few that actually do good animations. Well, besides EternalYoshi with that GREAT Gray Fox mod that never got finished I am not too surprised that you were the one responsible for that Charizard.

 

[JOE!]

There will be two versions for the PM version. One with PM Specials and one with Sm4sh Specials.

Version 1: Project M edits with Project M Specials (Heat Wave and Fly).

Version 2: Project M edits with Smash Specials (Flare Blitz and Rock Smash).

Version 3: Project M edits with Flare Blitz and Fly.

I was talking about V3 here. Also out of curiousity, would this be a true "Hybrid"? Like, PM Nair, Wii U Bair, PM Down B, Wii U Side B, etc?

 

[jackal27]

Charizard is seriously one of my most hyped in progress mods right now. I've never dug PM Charizard.

 

[KingJigglypuff]

My blade is ready if your long, red tongue is.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I am not too surprised that you were the one responsible for that Charizard.

You shouldn't be surprised, as Solo Charizard is listed in the OP of this thread, you silly goose. ˙ ͜>˙

I was talking about V3 here. Also out of curiousity, would this be a true "Hybrid"? Like, PM Nair, Wii U Bair, PM Down B, Wii U Side B, etc?

Yes.

 

[Yeller1999]

So out of curiosity has Jaystring got what you needed done for Deoxsys? Just wondering cause there hasn't been anything on it for awhile.

 

[jaystring]

So out of curiosity has Jaystring got what you needed done for Deoxsys? Just wondering cause there hasn't been anything on it for awhile.

no I'm not done yet! sorry!

I'm actually in the process of tweaking the UVs of all 4 models to make them more optimized, kind of removing the need for 512x512 textures. What I mean here is the new model will have as much details in 256x256 textures then the old model had in the 512x512 textures because of all the wasted space the old UVs had.

Once the UVs are done, i'll make new textures for all 4 models.

 

[Yeller1999]

no I'm not done yet! sorry!

I'm actually in the process of tweaking the UVs of all 4 models to make them more optimized, kind of removing the need for 512x512 textures. What I mean here is the new model will have as much details in 256x256 textures then the old model had in the 512x512 textures because of all the wasted space the old UVs had.

Once the UVs are done, i'll make new textures for all 4 models.

Ok cool can't wait, I have been hyped about Deoxsys since I saw that KingJigglypuff was making him.

 

[Notshane]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

( ﾟ▽ﾟ)/

You shouldn't be surprised, as Solo Charizard is listed in the OP of this thread, you silly goose. ˙ ͜>˙.

I swear I am the biggest airhead on here.

 

[Nanobuds]

http://imgur.com/a/sjYBv

 

[KingJigglypuff]

@Theytah delivered, so I present to you screenshots of the updated model and recolors in glorious...720p HD.

Spoiler

When I do get to releasing this, there will be two versions of the model.

Version 1 will have the standard Brawl Charizard eyes (SRT0 + PAT0), and Version 2 will have VIS0. I'll also provide codes that shrink the Network memory and increase FighterResource1 (thanks to ASF1nk), as the VIS0 eye models will crash without increasing the FighterResource1 allocation (at least with the Mini PSA that's gonna go with it).

I could make a third and fourth version with reduced texture sizes to be more file size friendly though.

 

[Obskore]

@Theytah delivered, so I present to you screenshots of the updated model and recolors in glorious...720p HD.

Spoiler

When I do get to releasing this, there will be two versions of the model.

Version 1 will have the standard Brawl Charizard eyes (SRT0 + PAT0), and Version 2 will have VIS0. I'll also provide codes that shrink the Network memory and increase FighterResource1 (thanks to ASF1nk), as the VIS0 eye models will crash without increasing the FighterResource1 allocation (at least with the Mini PSA that's gonna go with it).

I could make a third and fourth version with reduced texture sizes to be more file size friendly though.

speaking of which, is there a tournament-legal version yet?

 

[KingJigglypuff]

speaking of which, is there a tournament-legal version yet?

Technically, it's tourney legal (as the model has the same Bone IDs and animations automatically scale), it's just not Wi-fi safe. A truly Tourney legal/Wi-fi safe version would require re-rigging the tail, wings, neck, and fingers. While I can get to it eventually, it's not entirely a priority right now, but I can attempt it near release.

 

[Yeller1999]

@Theytah delivered, so I present to you screenshots of the updated model and recolors in glorious...720p HD.

Spoiler

When I do get to releasing this, there will be two versions of the model.

Version 1 will have the standard Brawl Charizard eyes (SRT0 + PAT0), and Version 2 will have VIS0. I'll also provide codes that shrink the Network memory and increase FighterResource1 (thanks to ASF1nk), as the VIS0 eye models will crash without increasing the FighterResource1 allocation (at least with the Mini PSA that's gonna go with it).

I could make a third and fourth version with reduced texture sizes to be more file size friendly though.

Wait I think I missed something somewhere. Is this charizard a vBrawl mod? and if not why is Pokemon Trainer there?

 

[??Sanic Hedgehog??]

Wait I think I missed something somewhere. Is this charizard a vBrawl mod? and if not why is Pokemon Trainer there?

Its a Model that can go over Charizard, Not a PSA.

 

[Yeller1999]

Its a Model that can go over Charizard, Not a PSA.

Oh ok, guess I should pay more attention sorry.

 

[KingJigglypuff]

Obskore You're in luck, as I've decided to give a truly Wifi/Tourney legal version a go. It' basically done, but I feel dissatisfied with how the shoulders are rigged, so I'm gonna need to tinker with it.

Wait I think I missed something somewhere. Is this charizard a vBrawl mod? and if not why is Pokemon Trainer there?

When I make mods, I first make them with vBrawl in mind. After that, I make Project M versions.

Its a Model that can go over Charizard, Not a PSA.

Technically, there's going to be a PSA included.

 

[Obskore]

Obskore You're in luck, as I've decided to give a truly Wifi/Tourney legal version a go. It' basically done, but I feel dissatisfied with how the shoulders are rigged, so I'm gonna need to tinker with it.

When I make mods, I first make them with vBrawl in mind. After that, I make Project M versions.

Technically, there's going to be a PSA included.

hmm, is there a reason it can't have the same rigging as original Charizard?

 

[KingJigglypuff]

hmm, is there a reason it can't have the same rigging as original Charizard?

While they have very similar geometry, the wings, tail, fingers, and neck have different bone placements, so I have to manually re-rig a few things. Since the geometry was very similar, I was able to Skin Wrap and manually patch up some wonky rigging. It also turns out that the shoulder rigging is fine (for the most part). It was just me being very nitpicky.

To tie people over until the moveset stuff, I could release the truly Wifi safe version after I do some testing.

 

[wiztick]

are u going to attempt to make a wiiu bowser or yoshi import down the line?

 

[KingJigglypuff]

are u going to attempt to make a wiiu bowser or yoshi import down the line?

Bower's way too different in geometry for me to attempt it. Though Yoshi is reasonable, so I could do Yoshi down the line.

 

[Nefnoj]

are u going to attempt to make a wiiu bowser or yoshi import down the line?

Wii U Bowser-esque animations would be pretty neat...

But also a difficult pain in the tush, so don't do it.

 

[Depressedzombieluigi]

Bower's way too different in geometry for me to attempt it. Though Yoshi is reasonable, so I could do Yoshi down the line.

Yo King Jiggly, what do you think about the idea of using Nano's new Shadow the edgehog model to make a high quality (emphasis on high quality) Shadow PSA down the line in your free time?

 

[drogoth232]

Yo King Jiggly, what do you think about the idea of using Nano's new Shadow the edgehog model to make a high quality (emphasis on high quality) Shadow PSA down the line in your free time?

Even if he says yes, you won't see it for a while.
Especially if you want high quality (emphasis on high quality).

 

[KingJigglypuff]

Yo King Jiggly, what do you think about the idea of using Nano's new Shadow the edgehog model to make a high quality (emphasis on high quality) Shadow PSA down the line in your free time?

There's already a quality Shadow PSA though. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=19022

Even if there wasn't, I don't think I would, as I barely follow the Sonic franchise. Even then, the best I could think of would be a Sonic semi-clone with different Specials and a few different moves. The only Sonic character I worked on was Silver...twice. And both times, the result was washed out and rushed (though you can blame me being newer to moveset making back then). It'll be more likely for me to get to a Silver revamp more than anything.

 

[Yeller1999]

There's already a quality Shadow PSA though. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=19022

Is it PM balanced?

 

[??Sanic Hedgehog??]

Is it PM balanced?

H*** No!

 

[KingJigglypuff]

Is it PM balanced?

No. I think SDo0m made that before he was accepted into the PMDT. My point still stands though. If I were to make a Sonic character, it would be a Silver revamp.

 

[Yeller1999]

H*** No!

No. I think SDo0m made that before he was accepted into the PMDT. My point still stands though. If I were to make a Sonic character, it would be a Silver revamp.

Thank you both for the answer and that is ok KingJigglypuff I was just wondering if that Shadow was PM balanced thats all. Do you guys know of any PM balanced ones or close to being PM balanced?

 

[Notshane]

There's already a quality Shadow PSA though. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=19022

At the time, you could call that high quality. But, look at Gray Fox, Waluigi, (two characters disclosed for personal reasons), Spider-Man (PM version) and this guy does not seem all that special anymore besides having detailed CSPs, textures and noticeably different moves. But, they do not flow nearly as well as the other five characters that I mentioned.

No offense to the guy that made him, but I would call that above average at most if we are talking about present time modding.

 

[KingJigglypuff]

At the time, you could call that high quality. But, look at Gray Fox, Waluigi, (two characters disclosed for personal reasons), Spider-Man (PM version) and this guy does not seem all that special anymore besides having detailed CSPs, textures and noticeably different moves. But, they do not flow nearly as well as the other five characters that I mentioned.

No offense to the guy that made him, but I would call that above average at most if we are talking about present time modding.

I get your point. To the standards that were raised with the advancements of today, even SDo0m's Shadow can be considered outdated. Though I still won't be making my own Shadow. :u The only way one can consider having me make Shadow is if one of the various people I'm working with for group projects decides to make their own Shadow.

 

[??Sanic Hedgehog??]

I remember a awesome Shadow PSA for PM om YT and it was VERY unique compared to the ones on the Vault, I haven't seen anything new since.

 

[KingJigglypuff]

No updates regarding Deoxys nor Smash 4 Charizard, but I do have an update for a group project.

Spoiler

*Ding ding* Saved by the bell!

Aye aye, Captain!

As you can see, MK's been putting out a fair amount of work lately.

 

[GerbilCrab475]

Looks great. At first his K. Rool looked weird but now he looks very nice. Good job.

 

[Nefnoj]

I'm still having trouble getting used to it, though it's probably a case of Melee Fox vs. Brawl Fox, (Rareware K. Rool vs. Jungle Climber K. Rool) the design choices MarioKing's been going with are rational with Brawl's designs and aesthetics... But I've always known K. Rool for his Donkey Kong 64 face.

 

[Cahalan]

Once the two psa's of K. Rool (MK and Bagan) are done, we should see which one would triumph over the other....