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KingJigglypuff · Mar 5, 2015

Select your character:

Waluigi and Ridley are not my projects [Waluigi is lead by Marioking64DS, and Ridley is lead by BaganSmashBros (though my involvement with this specific Ridley is an overhaul of his original PSA] , but I've done enough work to warrant giving them a space in my thread.

Who's next?

Currently Working On (Not in order):
Waluigi (collaboration with Marioking64DS).
King K. Rool (collaboration with Marioking64DS).
Classic Ridley Overhaul v2 (collaboration with BaganSmashBros.)

Planned Characters:
Decidueye.
Deoxys.
Sceptile.
Team Rocket's Meowth.
Zoroark.
Scizor.
Galacta Knight.
Plasma Wisp.
Solo Charizard Revamp.

Additional Links:
Youtube.
Twitter.
KC-MM Thread (Brawl Dedicated).
Discord Server.

drogoth232 · Mar 5, 2015

First post :V

KingJigglypuff · Mar 5, 2015

I had a feeling you would make a post here. V:

redxslash · Mar 5, 2015

Awesome PSA's, I'm glad someones making them for characters that need it. That solo charizard is great, but I wish it was a little bit more balanced to fit project m standards. Seems a bit overpowered.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 5, 2015

Would you mind elaborating? I need more information on what you find to be overpowered, so I can properly balance it effectively.

redxslash · Mar 5, 2015

KingJigglypuff said:
Would you mind elaborating? I need more information on what you find to be overpowered, so I can properly balance it effectively.

Based upon the showcase video:
- it looks like he can transform into his mega evolution at anytime. Not sure if this is true, but that would be considered overpowered. He should only be able to transform during final smash and for a given amount of time only.
- The forward B move at 0:06 in the video deals 16% damage. It is a very cheap move and is often abused in smash 4. I personally think it should deal a little less damage like 10 - 13%
- His final smash specials deal too much damage, especially the one in charizards Y mega evolution. That one is practically an instant kill even if your at full life

Those are just my opinions, but everything else seems perfectly balanced. Great work.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 5, 2015

redxslash said:
Based upon the showcase video:
- it looks like he can transform into his mega evolution at anytime. Not sure if this is true, but that would be considered overpowered. He should only be able to transform during final smash and for a given amount of time only.

Charizard can only Mega Evolve after dealing enough hits. And once that requirement is met. you'll be notified via GFX + SFX
notification. After that, you would press B + A to activate Mega Evolution (unless you have the B version, in that case, you would just press B). During the Mega Evolution action, hold A for Mega X, hold B for Mega Y, or do nothing for it to randomize between the two. The Mega Evolution will last until you die. If you die, you'll need to rack up the hits again. If you have the requirement met, but are KO'd before you can Mega Evolve, then you'll need to rack up the hits once again as well.

redxslash said:
- The forward B move at 0:06 in the video deals 16% damage. It is a very cheap move and is often abused in smash 4. I personally think it should deal a little less damage like 10 - 13%

Unlike Smash 4, if used in the air, it cannot be used again and eats up all your jumps until you land. The move also weakens quickly as it travels.

redxslash said:
- His final smash specials deal too much damage, especially the one in charizards Y mega evolution. That one is practically an instant kill even if your at full life.

Link's Final Smash is almost a OHKO, but I could try toning down the damage output and knockback.

redxslash · Mar 6, 2015

I think the hits thing is pretty cool, but you seemed to pull it off pretty quick in the video. If it were up to me, I would make him ready to transform once charizard reaches 100% damage or roughly around there. I assume that the mega evolution makes charizard more stronger? If so, I wouldn't make it last until he dies, it would be a bit overpowered.

Nice job getting the forward B move to be less cheap since its often a very abused move.

Yea, I think toning down the damage output and knockback for the final smash would be best. Just make it like links final smash then, since it's not a full one hit ko, but its very close to, I think that's what your aiming for.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 6, 2015

I only faced off against a Level 1 Computer to make the moveset look good. It takes about 16 or so hits in order to activate the Mega Evolution notification.

UltimateHylian · Mar 8, 2015

Does Solo Charizard work over PM Charizard if I rename the Link files (except for the Dark and Spy files)? :v If so, I suppose I don't need the .rel file and the codes, right?

drogoth232 · Mar 8, 2015

UltimateHylian said:
Does Solo Charizard work over PM Charizard if I rename the Link files (except for the Dark and Spy files)? :v If so, I suppose I don't need the .rel file and the codes, right?

No, it won't work.

UltimateHylian · Mar 8, 2015

drogoth232 said:
No, it won't work.

That's unfortunate :/ Is it always going to be over Link?

drogoth232 · Mar 8, 2015

UltimateHylian said:
That's unfortunate :/ Is it always going to be over Link?

Until creating new articles becomes possible, most likely if not yes.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 9, 2015

Even if adding Articles was possible, Solo Charizard could never be moved over onto Charizard. Solo Charizard was over Charizard in the beta stages, but I had to move Solo Charizard over onto Link due to file size.

UltimateHylian · Mar 9, 2015

KingJigglypuff said:
Even if adding Articles was possible, Solo Charizard could never be moved over onto Charizard. Solo Charizard was over Charizard in the beta stages, but I had to move Solo Charizard over onto Link due to file size.

Particles and file size are always limitations, aren't they? :'v Awesome Charizard though. I might try it just for fun and then switch back to Link.

Mewphelis · Mar 11, 2015

I wished BrawlEx worked with PM so much. I NEED THAT CHARIZARD

KingJigglypuff · Mar 11, 2015

Here's a preview of an upcoming character. Model and Texture work done by StarWaffle.

Mewphelis said:
I wished BrawlEx worked with PM so much. I NEED THAT CHARIZARD

I believe there's a few people that are trying to unofficially get BrawlEx working in Project M.

Mewphelis · Mar 11, 2015

KingJigglypuff said:
Here's a preview of an upcoming character. Model and Texture work done by StarWaffle.

I believe there's a few people that are trying to unofficially get BrawlEx working in Project M.

Can't wait for Sceptile!

Hope they can get it to work.

The Dark Knight1965 · Mar 14, 2015

Who will Septile be over?

KingJigglypuff · Mar 14, 2015

Noodle arms. Yee.

The rig is the X/Y rig with a few bone edits to make it work more like a Brawl skeleton (I still have to fix a couple things). The animation is very basic, as I wanted to test a wave-like motion with the arms/tentacles.

As for my other projects, BaganSmashBros is helping me with Raptor (I'll have to ask him about Xenomorph as well), and I believe (I don't want to make assumptions) StarWaffle is still working on the Sceptile models.

The Dark Knight1965 said:
Who will Septile be over?

Sceptile will use Toon Link as a base.

TheDarkMysteryMan · Mar 14, 2015

Looks pretty good.

The Dark Knight1965 · Mar 14, 2015

KingJigglypuff said:
Noodle arms. Yee.

The rig is the X/Y rig with a few bone edits to make it work more like a Brawl skeleton (I still have to fix a couple things). The animation is very basic, as I wanted to test a wave-like motion with the arms/tentacles.

As for my other projects, BaganSmashBros is helping me with Raptor (I'll have to ask him about Xenomorph as well), and I believe (I don't want to make assumptions) StarWaffle is still working on the Sceptile models.

Sceptile will use Toon Link as a base.

Is Toon Link compatible with Brawl EX?

KingJigglypuff · Mar 14, 2015

Yes, because if he wasn't, then I wouldn't have used Toon Link as a base. I would have used Link instead.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 18, 2015

I feel I should update this thread with the Xenomoprh previews I showed on KCMM. Just to keep this thread from dying out. I:

Take note that Xenomorph is in very early developmental stages and will likely not have a proper preview for quite some time.

Xenomorph Size Preview (compared to Ganondorf, Samus, and Bowser)

CSP Pose

Shader and Material preview (with an outdated Wait1)

Wait1

Wait2 (Still needs a bit of work)

Attack11 (I may need to do more work on this)

Custom Trophy

Red Recolor (based off of the Red Xenomorph in the Dark Horse comics)

Green Recolor (standard green recolor)

Blue Recolor (standard blue recolor)

Purple Recolor (based off of Ridley)

Orange Recolor (I'm going to make this darker to resemble the Runner Xenomorph from Alien 3)

Gold Recolor (I may make this a bit brighter)

White Recolor (standard white recolor)

Magenta/Hot Pink Recolor (I may just remove this one entirely, as it doesn't look that great)

If any of you notice this, feel free to give your thoughts.

BaganSmashBros · Mar 18, 2015

Why not use this guy for green recolor:

With yellow...ish crest and claws. Its not pure green, but it works too.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 18, 2015

How does this look? (My recoloring skills aren't the best, really. Hence why I left the recolors as basic.)

BaganSmashBros · Mar 18, 2015

KingJigglypuff said:
How does this look? (My recoloring skills aren't the best, really. Hence why I left the recolors as basic.)

Yellow here needs to be less of gold color and more of grey-ish yellow while green needs to be desaturated slightly.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 18, 2015

Done. <:v

BaganSmashBros · Mar 18, 2015

KingJigglypuff said:
Done. <:v

Yellow need to be a little bit brighter and its done. Tip of his crest shows color required. You can leave it like that if you want to of course.

Draco_The · Mar 21, 2015

For the Wait2 I think it would be better if you made the start (before opening the mouth) a little bit faster and then "stop" a bit on the open mouth part (smoke would come out from his mouth similar to Bowser's Wait2 but without any sound) while shaking a bit the upper body, and then quickly go into the Wait1 frame.

BaganSmashBros · Mar 21, 2015

Draco_The said:
For the Wait2 I think it would be better if you made the start (before opening the mouth) a little bit faster and then "stop" a bit on the open mouth part (smoke would come out from his mouth similar to Bowser's Wait2 but without any sound) while shaking a bit the upper body, and then quickly go into the Wait1 frame.

If you're talking about Xenomorph, i wouldn't say making smoke come out of his mouth is a good idea. Bowser is a fire-breathing turtle thing, so, it makes sense, but they certainly can't produce any smoke like that. And they don't breath, so, how can that happen anyway?

Draco_The · Mar 21, 2015

BaganSmashBros said:
If you're talking about Xenomorph, i wouldn't say making smoke come out of his mouth is a good idea. Bowser is a fire-breathing turtle thing, so, it makes sense, but they certainly can't produce any smoke like that. And they don't breath, so, how can that happen anyway?

Maybe use some water effects to make it seem like he's salivating or something then.

With the smoke I didn't mean big effects or anything like that. Just something small that could make the Wait2 feel less "empty", but I guess that since they don't breath (I certainly didn't know that) it doesn't make much sense.

BaganSmashBros · Mar 21, 2015

Draco_The said:
Maybe use some water effects to make it seem like he's salivating or something then.

With the smoke I didn't mean big effects or anything like that. Just something small that could make the Wait2 feel less "empty", but I guess that since they don't breath (I certainly didn't know that) it doesn't make much sense.

Or edit Charizard's Flamethrower fire-saliva-thing GFX.

Pikachu2040 · Mar 22, 2015

Could you make a Smash 4 Greninja PSA for Project M anytime soon?

KingJigglypuff · Mar 22, 2015

Pikachu2040 said:
Could you make a Smash 4 Greninja PSA for Project M anytime soon?

I already have a lot of projects on my hand. But the funny thing about that is I had a Greninja PSA planned even before Greninja was revealed in Smash 4. :v

Draco_The · Mar 22, 2015

Pikachu2040 said:
Could you make a Smash 4 Greninja PSA for Project M anytime soon?

Sceptile though.

KingJigglypuff · Mar 22, 2015

Draco_The said:
Sceptile though.

Speaking of Sceptile...

Here's StarWaffle's most current progress on Sceptile's model.

PseudoTypical · Apr 2, 2015

Hey KingJigglypuff: I kept up with the Waluigi PSA when MarioKing64DS was still pretty active on KCMM, and I know development went a lot more slowly after some difficulties. Is Waluigi still being worked on actively, though? That was an awesome project that was so far along; it'd be a shame for it to never see the light of day.

KingJigglypuff · Apr 2, 2015

Marioking64DS has a job, so he's very busy. That's why Waluigi has been utterly silent.

We're hoping we can show new stuff for Waluigi soon, but I can't make any promises.

Draco_The · Apr 2, 2015

KingJigglypuff said:
Marioking64DS has a job, so he's very busy. That's why Waluigi has been utterly silent.

We're hoping we can show new stuff for Waluigi soon, but I can't make any promises.

@Nefnoj

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