Kingdom Hearts 4

[fogbadge]

I don’t think you have to have the likeness of the actors that played the characters in the movies. They can always base the worlds more on their comic and cartoon designs. I don’t think Marvel Ultimate Alliance was a terribly high budget game but still had all of the Avengers plus a ton of other Marvel characters including the X-Men, Venom, and Deadpool, which have their own licensing challenges. I don’t think there would be an issue in a much higher budget game like Kingdom Hearts.

in fairness people do keep saying the MCU where youd probably have to use their likenesses. plus i was including eddie murphy and dwayne johnson in that, i find it hard to believe they wouldnt cost a fair bit

 

[fogbadge]

so i had strange idea for KH scenario yesterday for a princess and the frog world

Sora and co accompany Tiana and co through the swamp similar to the film. however the scene with the frog hunters is replaced with an encounter with Quina Quin from ff9 another chef who is fond of eating frogs. Sora chased Quina away but they return later on when Tiana is cooking. Quina reveals that they're from radiant garden or twilight town and that they're traveling to study cooking. Quina then joins the party through the swamp, meeting mama Odie and battling Dr Facelier. after Tiana and Naveen are restored Quina says they're going to stay a while and learn some cooking from Tiana.

alternatively after the first meeting Quina is not seen again and leaves behind an item that allows Sora to summon them

 

[dezeray112]

Just to get into the festive spirit of Christmas, anyone remember Mickey's Christmas Carol?

Here is a story concept and idea (even though its not the best) I had if they ever do put a Mickey's Christmas Carol universe in Kingdom Hearts:

Sora, Donald and Goofy ended up working under Ebenezer Scrooge who like the adaption is a greedy miser who despises anything associated with Christmas. The gang could see Ebenezer's temper flare up whenever anyone mentioned the term "Christmas." At the same time, they met Bob Cratchet, an employee who works under Scrooge along with Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockheart who were both hired by Ebenezer Scrooge to work as couriers (similar to Advent Children.)

After the three were docked half a day's pay so that they can spend the Christmas Day off, Sora and the gang felt really sorry to the three and decided to assist Cratchet, Cloud and Tifa with a variety of objectives and tasks which include delivering packages and help Cratchet out. Soon, they learned a lot more about Ebenezer's past from Cratchet and the townspeople. Later in the evening, they could see Ebenezer Scrooge frantically running away from the heartless who seem to be a primary target in which Sora and the gang were able to annihilate.

When asked about why the heartless were pursuing him, Scrooge heard a strange voice that sounded like Jacob Marley (his former employee who is deceased) warning him about three spirits that will come to punish him for his greedy ways during the evening. Frightened, he requested Sora and the gang to stay at his home to act as his bodyguards in which although hesitant, decided to help Scrooge for the night.

As evening struck, the Ghost of Christmas Past (Jiminy Cricket) and Ghost of Christmas Present (Willie the Giant) showed up and took Scrooge along with Sora and the gang to revisited his past and present life which all of a sudden the heartless began to show up and wreak chaos amongst the events in which were defeated. They then met the Ghost of Christmas Future and after viewing the events on what occured, where they found out that Marley's voice was nothing but a ruse setted up by no-one other than Pete who was the culprit behind the scenes. Pete then summoned a giant fiery heartless monster to support him in the final battle.

After a long fought battle in which Sora and the gang were victorious and saving Scrooge who was almost taken in by the fiery depths of his own grave (similar to the animated feature), they then see a path of light shining ahead in which Scrooge, Sora and the gang walked through. By then, all of them woke up and realised that it was Christmas morning and everyone were in to the festive spirit which included Scrooge who vowed to make amends. Sora and the gang assisted Scrooge by donating presents to the poor. After accomplishing all the tasks, they then went to visit Cratchet's house and together celebrated Christmas.

 

[fogbadge]

Just to get into the festive spirit of Christmas, anyone remember Mickey's Christmas Carol?

Here is a story concept and idea (even though its not the best) I had if they ever do put a Mickey's Christmas Carol universe in Kingdom Hearts:

Sora, Donald and Goofy ended up working under Ebenezer Scrooge who like the adaption is a greedy miser who despises anything associated with Christmas. The gang could see Ebenezer's temper flare up whenever anyone mentioned the term "Christmas." At the same time, they met Bob Cratchet, an employee who works under Scrooge along with Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockheart who were both hired by Ebenezer Scrooge to work as couriers (similar to Advent Children.)

After the three were docked half a day's pay so that they can spend the Christmas Day off, Sora and the gang felt really sorry to the three and decided to assist Cratchet, Cloud and Tifa with a variety of objectives and tasks which include delivering packages and help Cratchet out. Soon, they learned a lot more about Ebenezer's past from Cratchet and the townspeople. Later in the evening, they could see Ebenezer Scrooge frantically running away from the heartless who seem to be a primary target in which Sora and the gang were able to annihilate.

When asked about why the heartless were pursuing him, Scrooge heard a strange voice that sounded like Jacob Marley (his former employee who is deceased) warning him about three spirits that will come to punish him for his greedy ways during the evening. Frightened, he requested Sora and the gang to stay at his home to act as his bodyguards in which although hesitant, decided to help Scrooge for the night.

As evening struck, the Ghost of Christmas Past (Jiminy Cricket) and Ghost of Christmas Present (Willie the Giant) showed up and took Scrooge along with Sora and the gang to revisited his past and present life which all of a sudden the heartless began to show up and wreak chaos amongst the events in which were defeated. They then met the Ghost of Christmas Future and after viewing the events on what occured, where they found out that Marley's voice was nothing but a ruse setted up by no-one other than Pete who was the culprit behind the scenes. Pete then summoned a giant fiery heartless monster to support him in the final battle.

After a long fought battle in which Sora and the gang were victorious and saving Scrooge who was almost taken in by the fiery depths of his own grave (similar to the animated feature), they then see a path of light shining ahead in which Scrooge, Sora and the gang walked through. By then, all of them woke up and realised that it was Christmas morning and everyone were in to the festive spirit which included Scrooge who vowed to make amends. Sora and the gang assisted Scrooge by donating presents to the poor. After accomplishing all the tasks, they then went to visit Cratchet's house and together celebrated Christmas.

hang on are you suggesting an original version mixed with characters from mickey's chritmas carol?

 

[Deleted member]

I hope a certain red panda makes an appearance…

 

[fogbadge]

I hope a certain red panda makes an appearance…

what, baymax?

 

[PLATINUM7]

I hope a certain red panda makes an appearance…

Master Shifu is from Dreamworks silly

 

[Kirbeh]

While I'm still curious to see where they take things in 4, I can't say I'm too excited either. 3 was a major letdown on so many fronts, it kind of killed most enthusiasm I had for the future of the series. At this point though I'm too far in, there's no getting off Nomura's crazy ride.

I guess my other issue is Disney as a whole. It's been a good decade since I liked anything they've put out (film wise.) Granted, there's a good number of films I missed so I still need to catch up on those.

Otherwise as far as worlds go, I think a Jungle Book world is overdue. Especially with Tarzan out of the picture, it'd be a good fit for a new jungle level.

I'd also like to see worlds based on The Emperor's New Groove and 101 Dalmatians.

Star Wars and Marvel have potential, but I don't have faith in Disney/Marvel to not meddle too much.

Aside from that I actually want more old worlds. I want to see what Halloween Town, Wonderland, Enchanted Dominion, etc. can bring to the table/look like on modern hardware.

 

[fogbadge]

While I'm still curious to see where they take things in 4, I can't say I'm too excited either. 3 was a major letdown on so many fronts, it kind of killed most enthusiasm I had for the future of the series. At this point though I'm too far in, there's no getting off Nomura's crazy ride.

I guess my other issue is Disney as a whole. It's been a good decade since I liked anything they've put out (film wise.) Granted, there's a good number of films I missed so I still need to catch up on those.

Otherwise as far as worlds go, I think a Jungle Book world is overdue. Especially with Tarzan out of the picture, it'd be a good fit for a new jungle level.

I'd also like to see worlds based on The Emperor's New Groove and 101 Dalmatians.

Star Wars and Marvel have potential, but I don't have faith in Disney/Marvel to not meddle too much.

Aside from that I actually want more old worlds. I want to see what Halloween Town, Wonderland, Enchanted Dominion, etc. can bring to the table/look like on modern hardware.

not to mention we nearly had a jungle book world once.

which of the recent ones haven’t you seen? I may be able to offer a recommendation or two

 

[Kirbeh]

not to mention we nearly had a jungle book world once.

which of the recent ones haven’t you seen? I may be able to offer a recommendation or two

I haven't seen Coco, Moana, Wish, Encanto, Turning Red, Zootopia, Lightyear, Soul, TS4 or that other space one. I don't remember the name.

I was going to get to Moana, Coco, Soul and TS4 on my own but I've been recommended Zootopia enough that I'll probably give it a watch too.

I've zero interest/no intention of watching Lightyear or Wish.

 

[fogbadge]

I haven't seen Coco, Moana, Wish, Encanto, Turning Red, Zootopia, Lightyear, Soul, TS4 or that other space one. I don't remember the name.

I was going to get to Moana, Coco, Soul and TS4 on my own but I've been recommended Zootopia enough that I'll probably give it a watch too.

I've zero interest/no intention of watching Lightyear or Wish.

well moana and coco are both films I would highly recommend. Soul is worth a watch but you can skip TS4. Zootropolis(pia) is also a great film. Encanto I thought was amazing. The other space one, strange world is ok but you can skip it no bother. Lightyear wasn’t bad but it’s easily missable. Turning red is the worst Pixar film I’ve ever seen

and I liked wish but given how badly it’s been doing I don’t blame you for not watching it

 

[Deleted member]

what, baymax?

Master Shifu is from Dreamworks silly

Oh, for the love of...I was talking about Meilin Lee from "Turning Red"!

You know, the Pixar movie that came out last year, which sparked my newfound interest in Asian culture, and is why I'm studying how to speak Japanese (despite her being Chinese) and is also why my persona is a half-human, half-kitsune creature with fire powers (as Mei originally had fire powers as well whenever she got angry)?

And right now, that movie (along with Soul and Luca) are getting theatrical releases in the US in the next 3 months, which is huge for me because I've seen every Pixar movie in theaters since "Toy Story" except for those three after the pandemic hit and forced them onto Disney+.

Literally, when the trailer announcing their proper big-screen releases was released last week, I actually cried tears of joy!

Hold on, aren't we talking about Kingdom Hearts IV right now?

 

[fogbadge]

Oh, for the love of...I was talking about Meilin Lee from "Turning Red"!

You know, the Pixar movie that came out last year, which sparked my newfound interest in Asian culture, and is why I'm studying how to speak Japanese (despite her being Chinese)?

And right now, that movie (along with Soul and Luca) are getting theatrical releases in the US in the next 3 months, which is huge for me because I've seen every Pixar movie in theaters since "Toy Story" except for those three after the pandemic hit and forced them onto Disney+.

Literally, when the trailer announcing their proper big-screen releases was released last week, I actually cried tears of joy!

Hold on, aren't we talking about Kingdom Hearts IV right now?

i take it you didn't see my other post where i called it pixar's worst film

 

[Deleted member]

i take it you didn't see my other post where i called it pixar's worst film

Turning Red?

 

[fogbadge]

Turning Red?

yep

 

[Deleted member]

Most wanted worlds for KH4:
-Treasure Planet
-Jungle Cruise
-The Madrigal House from Encanto
-The ocean from Moana (Vaiana in my country)
-Avengers 1/Something MCU-related
-Disney Afternoon/Ducktales Reboot
-High School Musical as something similar to Atlántica in KH2

 

[Deleted member]

yep

Agree to disagree.

 

[fogbadge]

Most wanted worlds for KH4:
-Treasure Planet
-Jungle Cruise
-The Madrigal House from Encanto
-The ocean from Moana (Vaiana in my country)
-Avengers 1/Something MCU-related
-Disney Afternoon/Ducktales Reboot
-High School Musical as something similar to Atlántica in KH2

some good ideas

Agree to disagree.

ok

 

[Deleted member]

ok

Thanks, I'm trying to keep my temper down.

 

[dezeray112]

It has been a while since I last posted. Anyways, I figured I may as well give my predictions on what returning and newer universes I could see being potentially featured in Kingdom Hearts 4.

Disney Animation:

Returning:

• Frozen: Whilst I will say that I was slightly disappointed with how the universe was integrated within KH3, I do think based on how popular the franchise has been and I could see the Frozen universe as a likely one to return. They could base the events of Frozen II and hopefully expand the universe even further by not just exploring the mountains, but also within the kingdom of Arendelle.

New:

• Moana: I think that Moana will certainly have plenty of ideas that KH4 could exploit which include working alongside Moana and Maui exploring the seas.
• Encanto: Like Moana, I do think that Encanto has potential to become a universe within KH4 in which I could see them explore the Family Madrigal house. As for playable characters, I could see Mirabel, Bruno and Antonio acting as support characters although I get the feeling they could give that to Luisa and Isabella.
• Zootopia: Could see a Zootopia universe based upon the events of the film.

Pixar:

Returning:

• Toy Story: I generally think that there is still plenty more that can be explored within the Toy Story universe. So depending on what the setting of the universe could potentially be based upon, maybe it could follow on from the events after Toy Story 4 or going for a new and unique story?

New:

• The Incredibles: I would generally love to see a universe based upon the Incredibles, although its hard to say whether the universe should be based upon the events of the first or second film.
• Inside Out: I could see Riley's mind acting as part of a universe within KH4.
• Cars: I would love to see a universe based upon Cars, although it will be hard to say what the story should be based upon the first, second or third.

Live Action:

I don't really know if there is anything else left to be explored within the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, but if there were any other films based upon the theme park aspects, I could see this being between Jungle Cruise or the Haunted Mansion.

As for Star Wars and Marvel, whilst it is hard to say about their chances at this time, these are still two franchises I would love to see being featured within Kingdom Hearts.

I believe that Frozen, Toy Story and maybe Monsters Inc are ones that I am certain will return for KH4.

 

[fogbadge]

yeah Moana feels like a good shout. quite a natural pick. then again some other films I would have said were quite natural picks still haven't made it

 

[dezeray112]

It certainly been a while since the teaser for Kingdom Hearts IV was released. I wonder when exactly will there be further news on the fourth entry?

 

[darkvortex]

I think there's a real chance for something at the game awards. Geoff has been teasing KH4 all year and iirc recently met with Square in Japan

 

[fogbadge]

I think there's a real chance for something at the game awards. Geoff has been teasing KH4 all year and iirc recently met with Square in Japan

it could also just be missing link

 

[darkvortex]

it could also just be missing link

They've specifically been teasing 4 though

 

[fogbadge]

They've specifically been teasing 4 though

well, we'll see I guess

 

[Perkilator]

Since we know KH4 started development in January 2020, I'm going to assume that most of the worlds are from Disney movies released before 2020. That means potential options for new worlds include:

• Movies released during KH3's development
  1. Inside Out
  2. Zootopia
  3. Moana
  4. Coco
• Older movies that haven't been in the series before
  1. Mary Poppins
  2. The Jungle Book
  3. A Bug's Life
  4. The Emperor's New Groove
  5. Atlantis: The Lost Empire
  6. Treasure Planet
  7. The Incredibles (assuming they couldn't get Marvel on board)
  8. Meet the Robinsons
  9. WALL-E
  10. Up
  11. The Princess and the Frog
  12. Brave
• Potential last-minute additions for movies that came out after KH4 started development
  1. Encanto

I know this is more worlds then they could ever realistically include, quantity-wise, but these are only hypothetical options I'm bringing up.

 

[MBRedboy31]

The one niche world pick I personally want to see is Tokyo Disneyland. Sora is stuck in “real” Tokyo for at least part of the game, so it’d be his chance to go there.

While for most people it’s the happiest place on Earth (or at least the happiest place in Quadratum or whatever they said the place was called,) for Sora it’d feel really weird and hollow and depressing since he’s met firsthand the characters the park is based on. Seeing staff members silently parading around in mascot suits of Donald and Goofy merely makes him miss them more.

Also they could have cool setpieces of him fighting Heartless while riding the park’s most famous rides.

 

[Perkilator]

Okay, now I’m going to make a more concrete prediction/wishlist of potential worlds and summons in KH4. And yes, this also involves copium for Kairi being playable.

Spoiler: Worlds

• Sora’s side
  • Quadratum
  • A world based on Star Wars
  • A world based on Marvel
• Kairi’s side
  • Radiant Garden
  • Underworld (Hercules)
  • Bewitched Bayou (Princess and the Frog)
  • A world based on Inside Out, with Kairi exploring her mind
  • Motonui (Moana)
  • Land of the Dead (Coco)

Spoiler: Summons

• Crush (Finding Nemo)
• Mary Poppins
• Star (Wish)
• Nick & Judy (Zootopia)
• Jack Skellington (Nightmare Before Christmas)

 

[fogbadge]

Okay, now I’m going to make a more concrete prediction/wishlist of potential worlds and summons in KH4. And yes, this also involves copium for Kairi being playable.

Spoiler: Worlds

• Sora’s side
  • Quadratum
  • A world based on Star Wars
  • A world based on Marvel
• Kairi’s side
  • Radiant Garden
  • Underworld (Hercules)
  • Bewitched Bayou (Princess and the Frog)
  • A world based on Inside Out, with Kairi exploring her mind
  • Motonui (Moana)
  • Land of the Dead (Coco)

Spoiler: Summons

• Crush (Finding Nemo)
• Mary Poppins
• Star (Wish)
• Nick & Judy (Zootopia)
• Jack Skellington (Nightmare Before Christmas)

personally I'd rather Kairi had her own game than share one

 

[Perkilator]

Okay, now I’m going to make a more concrete prediction/wishlist of potential worlds and summons in KH4.

Decided to add a bit more to this

Spoiler: Worlds

• Sora’s side
  • Quadratum
  • A world based on Star Wars
  • A world based on Spider-Man
  • A world dedicated to Kermit the Frog (as in, Kermit on his own and no other Muppets)
• Kairi’s side
  • Radiant Garden
  • Underworld (Hercules)
  • Bewitched Bayou (The Princess and the Frog)
  • A world based on Inside Out, with Kairi exploring her mind
  • Motonui (Moana)
  • Land of the Dead (Coco)
  • Mayyyyybe Encanto?

Spoiler: Summons

• Crush (Finding Nemo)
• Mary Poppins
• Star (Wish)
• Nick & Judy (Zootopia)
• Jack Skellington (The Nightmare Before Christmas)
• Mei (Turning Red)

 

[fogbadge]

Decided to add a bit more to this

Spoiler: Worlds

• Sora’s side
  • Quadratum
  • A world based on Star Wars
  • A world based on Spider-Man
  • A world dedicated to Kermit the Frog (as in, Kermit on his own and no other Muppets)
• Kairi’s side
  • Radiant Garden
  • Underworld (Hercules)
  • Bewitched Bayou (The Princess and the Frog)
  • A world based on Inside Out, with Kairi exploring her mind
  • Motonui (Moana)
  • Land of the Dead (Coco)
  • Mayyyyybe Encanto?

Spoiler: Summons

• Crush (Finding Nemo)
• Mary Poppins
• Star (Wish)
• Nick & Judy (Zootopia)
• Jack Skellington (The Nightmare Before Christmas)
• Mei (Turning Red)

why a world solely for kermit?

 

[Perkilator]

why a world solely for kermit?

Because I figured that having a smaller-scale minigame world dedicated to him would allow for a more laid-back experience.

 

[fogbadge]

Because I figured that having a smaller-scale minigame world dedicated to him would allow for a more laid-back experience.

but you can have that with multiple muppets