This is not a joke topic
If been looking deeper into King Dedede, his playstyle, his Metagame and I played him for a good while now and I've come to the conclusion, that he and not MK could be the best character in this game. Here are my reasons:
- His match-up vs MK
This is supposed to be in MKs favour. I disagree. I honestly think it's pretty even. Why? Because MK doesn't really limit Dededes options. MK can't zone him into a corner, since Dededes ftilt outranges all of MKs moves. MK can't punish his ftilt too well either. A grab means ~20% dmg (1 jab + bthrow) and MK lives to ~80% vs Dedede. One grab - which is easy to do for Dedede - takes 1/4 of MKs live. A fresh utilt / usmash = Ko at ~90% or even lower. MK can't gimp Dedede if he's smart, thanks to the SA frames. Against heavy characters MK does have KO issues, if he can't gimp them...
- His overall match-up's
OK, Dededes overall match-up's are arguably the worst from the top tier characters (except maybe ROB). But: does it really matter? How much does the disadvantage vs Zamus, Pit and Olimar hurt him, if he faces them almost never? With the exception of MK, he has the best match-up's vs top tier characters. The only one he loses to is Flaco. But if we assume the MK match-up to be true, he wins vs ROB, Snake and has a slight advantage vs Marth. Furthermore he goes even with Game and Watch (Hylian agreed on this and Needle of Juntah sais, it's GaWs 2nd hardest match-up) and wins vs Wario - one of the most overused characters in tournaments. Who cares about the little guys if you counter Snake and Wario and losing only to Falco?
- He has attributes, that "transcend" match-up numbers
Seriously. Ever got KOed by a Gordo? Yes? Then you should know, that Dedede has a few moves, that can turn every match-up easily in his favour again. He's getting pwnd by an 60% MK and has 120%. He has serious troubles. But: one Gordo and DDD has the advantage. I admit, that this is very luck based but there is other stuff, that works: get hit by an fsmash and you're dead. Unreliable? Yes. Impossible? Certainly not. Read your opponent well, learn how he rolls and you can hit him. It doesn't work too often but it's still an addition. And then we have Edgeguarding. I think Dedede is the best Edgeguard in this game, only tied (or slightly beaten) with MK. He can't fly that far but the power, range and the long lasting hitbox of his fair are nightmares for everyone, who tries to recover. It covers his entire front with a disjointed hitbox, that lasts longer than any edgeguard moves in the game. I can't think of many opponents, who can get through, if the Dedede does it correctly.
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When people say MK has no exploitable weakness, they're right. However, he does have a weakness, even if it's not explitable: his weight. This is a small and possibly meaningless weakness but Dedede has no weakness either.
He's heavy - it takes forever to KO him.
He's fast - seriously, his tilis come out instantly, that's all he needs.
He outranges a lot - ftilt is soooo overranged. It outspaces even Marth.
Projectiles don't work - Waddle Dees stop them
He can't be gimped - 5 jumps and a recovery move with SA frames...
What am I trying to say? MKs strenghts outweight his weaknes by far. Dedede has no weakness to begin with and his strengths would also outweigh them by an overhelming amount...
Discuss
If been looking deeper into King Dedede, his playstyle, his Metagame and I played him for a good while now and I've come to the conclusion, that he and not MK could be the best character in this game. Here are my reasons:
- His match-up vs MK
This is supposed to be in MKs favour. I disagree. I honestly think it's pretty even. Why? Because MK doesn't really limit Dededes options. MK can't zone him into a corner, since Dededes ftilt outranges all of MKs moves. MK can't punish his ftilt too well either. A grab means ~20% dmg (1 jab + bthrow) and MK lives to ~80% vs Dedede. One grab - which is easy to do for Dedede - takes 1/4 of MKs live. A fresh utilt / usmash = Ko at ~90% or even lower. MK can't gimp Dedede if he's smart, thanks to the SA frames. Against heavy characters MK does have KO issues, if he can't gimp them...
- His overall match-up's
OK, Dededes overall match-up's are arguably the worst from the top tier characters (except maybe ROB). But: does it really matter? How much does the disadvantage vs Zamus, Pit and Olimar hurt him, if he faces them almost never? With the exception of MK, he has the best match-up's vs top tier characters. The only one he loses to is Flaco. But if we assume the MK match-up to be true, he wins vs ROB, Snake and has a slight advantage vs Marth. Furthermore he goes even with Game and Watch (Hylian agreed on this and Needle of Juntah sais, it's GaWs 2nd hardest match-up) and wins vs Wario - one of the most overused characters in tournaments. Who cares about the little guys if you counter Snake and Wario and losing only to Falco?
- He has attributes, that "transcend" match-up numbers
Seriously. Ever got KOed by a Gordo? Yes? Then you should know, that Dedede has a few moves, that can turn every match-up easily in his favour again. He's getting pwnd by an 60% MK and has 120%. He has serious troubles. But: one Gordo and DDD has the advantage. I admit, that this is very luck based but there is other stuff, that works: get hit by an fsmash and you're dead. Unreliable? Yes. Impossible? Certainly not. Read your opponent well, learn how he rolls and you can hit him. It doesn't work too often but it's still an addition. And then we have Edgeguarding. I think Dedede is the best Edgeguard in this game, only tied (or slightly beaten) with MK. He can't fly that far but the power, range and the long lasting hitbox of his fair are nightmares for everyone, who tries to recover. It covers his entire front with a disjointed hitbox, that lasts longer than any edgeguard moves in the game. I can't think of many opponents, who can get through, if the Dedede does it correctly.
...
When people say MK has no exploitable weakness, they're right. However, he does have a weakness, even if it's not explitable: his weight. This is a small and possibly meaningless weakness but Dedede has no weakness either.
He's heavy - it takes forever to KO him.
He's fast - seriously, his tilis come out instantly, that's all he needs.
He outranges a lot - ftilt is soooo overranged. It outspaces even Marth.
Projectiles don't work - Waddle Dees stop them
He can't be gimped - 5 jumps and a recovery move with SA frames...
What am I trying to say? MKs strenghts outweight his weaknes by far. Dedede has no weakness to begin with and his strengths would also outweigh them by an overhelming amount...
Discuss