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That would be the dumbest reason to leave K. Rool out. Several characters use moves that were used by other characters in their games (for example Ness, Lucas and the Koopalings (although they're costumes))
I've never seen anyone use Kaptain or Baron for A Moves anyway excepting people going full blunderbuss so I don't really see the issue raised in the question. If Sakurai doesn't want to dip into them for his specials then that's different but standard attacks is completely fine without them anyway.
They're also promoting Ryu on both Twitter and Facebook.
Zombie Saurian's K. Rool moveset mixes it up quite a bit. Its mostly just regular King stuff, but there's at least one move as part of his A moves from his other movesets.
Villager and Mr. G&W pull out stuff for like all of their A moves so that makes zero sense.
I've seen a few suggestions like the Blunderbuss propulsion being his dash attack.
That's fair. In the same breath creating a standard moveset without using Kaptain or Baron in the standard attacks is incredibly easy though. No way Sakurai can't do something interesting there.
This is true, but I maintain you can very easily make an interesting moveset without touching the blunderbuss outside of the specials. Heck, even if you restrict to DKC1 you can do some neat stuff.
ballot may be dead right now, but i think the thing we can do right now is just to really spread his name all over the internet. Nintendo has been listening to the fans, so its not only the ballot their looking at. Just make it like a dangerous virus. It spreads and never stops. We just gotta really shoot his name out right now
That was probably because Dr. Mario was separate character in Melee.
He thought that before adding him in Melee.
Really? I didn't know that, is that mentioned in some Sourcegaming's article? Anyway, Sakurai is unpredictable with these kind of things, Ness and Lucas using moves from other Mother characters and Koopalings turning into Shadow Mario is okay but Dr. Mario using fireballs and Dark Pit using the Three Sacred Treasures isn't.
Not gonna lie, it's a worry I've had a little while now. We have to hope that Sakurai's 'vision' of K. Rool includes more than just what his King persona uses.
If they announce something tomorrow I'm super hyped. Simple as that lol
I expect there's a bit of both. Namecounting first followed by reading submissions more carefully for a shortlisted few.
And that's before even taking the PAON Games into account!
It discourages multiple voting, I think. The JP and PAL sites in particular ask for your name, age, and gender. The more info you have to type in, the more effort is the effort needed to vote again.
The data isn't just for Smash-related use is the likely reason (and not all regions' forms ask for nickname or gender, as far as I know; I know the UK one asks for both, though). I know I've linked to this at least half a dozen times by now (sorry guys
) but I think it's really important to understand the distant origins of the present-day surveys, consequences of writing/talking to customer service representatives, and ballots, be they game-specific or not.As per the above, no, they wouldn't. They've been translating stuff and passing it back to teams in Japan for decades - they're surely not going to make an exception now.
Sakurai is a dirty liar who has been proven to be less trustworthy then the King himself. I make it a point to not believe anything he says and just assume he's going to do whatever he feels like because who gives a crap about consistency, amirite?
To be fair, in the description box, I do not believe they were looking for move-set ideas. Sure, general stuff here and there would probably be taken into consideration; however, Sakurai is the creative director. If he is anything like most creators, he wants things done his way. I believe that there is MORE than enough precedent to support that claim.
So why are they promoting Ryu also?
You know, I don't think he's a liar. I think he's just fickle and overflowing with ideas at the same time, leading to a lot of chopping and changing his mind. Some creators are just that way inclined.
Indeed. I have no idea why people believe that once someone says something, especially in regard to a completely different title (some people use what he said in Melee or Brawl as evidence for what will or will not happen in this game), that they are held to that standard FOREVER. People change, people change their minds, and circumstances change. It is not exclusive to creators in the slightest.
Absolutely they could.
I suppose this is could versus should. They COULD, but it is highly doubtful that they would. The profit difference from the winner of the ballot and the runner-up is more likely than not, completely negligible and they clearly value him as a developer. So there is no reason to be petty and overrule his choices if they are not absurd.
They're not specifically soliciting moveset ideas, no (because they're not going to turn rabid fans away from voting, just because they can't spell out why their character is interesting), but if people submit them, I'd think they'd make it a point to at least read some.
It's not a matter of "could they?" because yes, they definitely could, but "would they?" Nintendo at large seems to defer to Sakurai as some super genius where Smash is concerned, so if he were to defend his passing on K. Rool as "I, Sakurai, find this character boring and this one, my favorite, interesting," Nintendo would probably not press him on the matter. As much as the ballot votes speak for themselves as to the people who would buy a character, Nintendo could also think "more creative characters mean more publicity/money," and thus invest that creativity into their favorite characters instead of the ones with more votes.
It's more the fact that he says completely opposite things within a super small amount of time. People can change their mind, but the fact that Sakurai flip-flops so quickly makes REALLY hard to take what he says seriously.
Right, but there is a difference between: "Hey, it would be cool if he used his blunderbuss" and "his neutral special should be this, his side-special should be that." There is also a difference between listing out moves as opposed to explaining why a couple of key moves are significant to his character. That is all I meant.
Right. They don't need thousands of people telling them that DK characters, villains, heavyweights, K. Rool using the blunderbuss, K. Rool getting costumes, etc. are in high demand. What I'm hoping will happen, though, is that they'll take some ideas that stand out, like "K. Rool can drag foes off the screen with the Kredits as a Final Smash" or "K. Rool can have a playstyle where he's not a strong heavyweight, but he has a lot of traps that he can exploit while surviving to crazy percentages," and share those with the developers for their consideration.
Good point. And, in regard to the Mii costume, he used the favored design. Although, if King K. Rool does not make the Kut, I have no doubt that Sakurai helped lay the ground work for a subsequent developer to finish the job. His demand has never been more observable.
