K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

@BKupa666: In Mario Super Sluggers, King K. Rool was one of the slowest runners in the whole game. For a character who would offer one of the strongest physical attack attributes, his walking speed would have to be quite sluggish. His running speed, on the other hand, could always be made to be decent.

 

[FlareHabanero]

King K. Rool was also pretty sluggish in Donkey King: King of Swing. More specifically he had terrible jumping capabilities and moved slowly, but was the strongest character.

It's somewhat inverted in Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast. King K. Rool had high speed and weight stats but mediocre acceleration and handling, similar to a typical heavyweight in the Mario Kart series.

 

[BirthNote]

I think it'd be great if he was a tad faster than DK.

 

[Wizzrobe]

I think it'd be great if he was a tad faster than DK.

In that case he probably wouldn't be a slow character.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I think it'd be great if he was a tad faster than DK.

Here's what I had in thought...

1: King K. Rool would be the slowest character, in terms of walking speed.
2: In terms of running speed, King K. Rool would rival Wolf's running speed.

 

[Deleted member]

Makes sense.
It'd be pretty amusing to see expressions when people first see how fast he runs.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

We already have a character with a really slow walking speed and a really fast running speed. Charizard

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, but Charizard isn't a fat lumbering crocodile.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

We already have a character with a really slow walking speed and a really fast running speed. Charizard

Yeah, but Charizard isn't a fat lumbering crocodile.

Charizard glides when it dashes, which is something that K. Rool can't mimic. Because of that, he has to rely on his legs to do all the dashing.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Charizard glides when it dashes, which is something that K. Rool can't mimic. Because of that, he has to rely on his legs to do all the dashing.

Is the glide anything more than aesthetic though?

 

[BKupa666]

If anything, I'd hope K. Rool's jumping ability from DKC translates into Smash, rather than his speed. One or the other might have to be dumbed down for balance purposes, but still...it would definitely boost him up that tier list, right?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Is the glide anything more than aesthetic though?

Well it does make up for Charizard's slow footwork. King K. Rool literally has to run, so I really doubt that he can catch up with Mario's running without relying on any of his technical support tactics.

 

[BKupa666]

Speaking of technical support tactics, I've seen K. Rool movesets where he uses his blunderbuss' flames to propel himself forward. It's an unorthodox twist on the usual running, for sure.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Speaking of technical support tactics, I've seen K. Rool movesets where he uses his blunderbuss' flames to propel himself forward. It's an unorthodox twist on the usual running, for sure.

Wouldn't that be more of a side special though? Basically, K. Rool would use his Blunderbuss to build up his momentum, damaging anyone who is in his path. For a price, however, the move is quite reckless, and leaves K. Rool helpless if he falls off a ledge.

 

[Krusha Krusader]

That is a good move idea. King Ka-Rool can use it to steal the Crystal Coconut!

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well, I've been able to get hold of a decent K. Rool model, so I did up some size comparisons for him...

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[Starphoenix]

Well, I've been able to get hold of a decent K. Rool model, so I did up some size comparisons for him...

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That looks pretty good, but you really should have added King DDD for the sake of rounding out the heavy weights. Not essential, but my OCD self is just nit picking.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

That looks pretty good, but you really should have added King DDD for the sake of rounding out the heavy weights. Not essential, but my OCD self is just nit picking.

Based on the T-Poses, Dedede is nowhere near as tall as Bowser and Donkey Kong.

Anyway, because I see K. Rool being one of the biggest playable characters, he has to be around the same size level as Bowser and Donkey Kong. However, because those two are pretty much hunched over, I may have made K. Rool too big. On the flipside, judging by his Mario Super Sluggers model, K. Rool's legs aren't very long.

 

[BKupa666]

Oh my...where did you dig up that model? That's almost exactly how K. Rool ought to appear in SSB4 (my nitpicky self wants him to have a tail and larger crown, but shrug).

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Oh my...where did you dig up that model? That's almost exactly how K. Rool ought to appear in SSB4 (my nitpicky self wants him to have a tail and larger crown, but shrug).

GBC released a King K. Rool model import, which goes over Classic Wario. I merely borrowed the model to do the size comparisons.

However, the model appears to be flawed, as K. Rool's legs really aren't very long. I also may have made him too big, as Bowser and Donkey Kong are hunched over, despite looking very tall in their T-Pose stances.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What's with the random aztec themed outfit?

I know it's from the baseball game.

It's just out there.

There is an aztec temple-like thing you fight him in DKC 2. But still

 

[BKupa666]

The length of K. Rool's legs aren't really of importance. They're rather long in his Melee trophy model, and when you comapre Diddy's Brawl model to his DKC appearance, his legs are slightly longer, allowing him to have more range on his kicking attacks.

K. Rool's baseball outfit was made because his regular appearance, with a long cape and dragging tail, were too difficult to animate properly.

This model for K. Rool is absolutely awesome! Thanks for sharing, M&SG!

 

[Opossum]

I mean, it still sort of fits, with his many multiple personalities, but it is still kinda odd...


Nice model, MSG! Maybe add it to the OP, BKupa?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

@BKupa666: No problem, but I still think I might've made K. Rool too big; he doesn't hunch over like Bowser after all.

 

[Deleted member]

Nonsense, it wouldn't hurt to have a couple characters taller than Bowser.
It's not like Bowser is the limit. I mean, DK was the largest character in Smash until Bowser showed up.

 

[BKupa666]

I do think that Bowser should remain the heaviest character (his weight should be buffed from Brawl, IMO), but that K. Rool and Ridley could both become larger, albeit slightly lighter characters.

K. Rool has to stay large enough to still appear threatening when placed next to DK.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

You know, the whole Aztec thing may mean Nintendo are finally getting his character

 

[Deleted member]

The "Aztec" look would have fit DKCR...so, let's say there is a DKCR2, and K. Rool is in it, would he look like that?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The "Aztec" look would have fit DKCR...so, let's say there is a DKCR2, and K. Rool is in it, would he look like that?

Since DKCR1 was more or less a remake of DKC without Kremlins, maybe DKCR2 would be a more or less remake of DKC2

 

[BKupa666]

I don't think Retro has the competence to handle designing their own characters, or else their original ones from DKCR would have been much more memorable. They used what I call 'Dreamworks humor': by this, I mean that they put thoroughly out-of-place, random characters into DKCR, such as the flag-waving pig, and expected them to be funny or beloved simply because of their randomness. Dreamworks makes similar jokes in their films, having the Despicable Me villain shooting random sea creatures from guns, for example.

I would expect K. Rool to keep his classic design in a sequel, or not appear at all. At this point, a sequel will have Kremlings, Tikis, or a random new enemy force...unless K. Rool appears in Smash, of course, upon which the former is a lock to return.

My dream costume would have him dress as an emperor, leading a Roman-esque force of gladiator Kremlings. K. Roolius would be his name, kicking (existing) tails would be his game.

 

[Deleted member]

Sadly, I don't think he will have any aliases anymore, considering what Cranky said in DK64 about him quitting that.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Sadly, I don't think he will have any aliases anymore, considering what Cranky said in DK64 about him quitting that.

That was a horrible thing for him to say.

Hopefully Cranky was just being senile

 

[BKupa666]

And yet in the same game, he became King Krushaaaaa K. Rool.

Hopefully the Count Olaf of the Kremlings hasn't exhausted his wardrobe just yet.

 

[Oasis_S]

Always liked that Konquistador K. Rool fan design.


There should be a Japanesey DKC with Sun WuKONG and some kind of... Shogun K. Rool. Katana K. Rool?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Always liked that Konquistador K. Rool fan design.


There should be a Japanesey DKC with Sun WuKONG and some kind of... Shogun K. Rool. Katana K. Rool?

If it was Journey to the West DKC, I'd seriously think K. Rool would be Zhu Bajie

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I do think that Bowser should remain the heaviest character (his weight should be buffed from Brawl, IMO), but that K. Rool and Ridley could both become larger, albeit slightly lighter characters.

K. Rool has to stay large enough to still appear threatening when placed next to DK.

Based on the Brawl attributes, Bowser's weight is 120, beating DK's 116.

Anyway, I'd probably get a good laugh in if K. Rool managed to get a weight attribute of around 124. After all, he's shown to be slightly taller than Bowser, and is quite big as well.

 

[Deleted member]

Do we even know if Diddy Kong's return to the series was inspired by Smash? I feel as Diddy Kong would have returned regardless of whenever or not he appeared in Smash.

And in regards to weight, I'm not sure if he should be as heavy as people want him to be, given that fat weight less than muscle and King K. Rool in comparison to Bowser is fat.

@BKupa666: Dreamwork movies, while okay, are pretty forgettable. Really don't like how they force humor into their stories. I'd like to see more movies like Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron made

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Do we even know if Diddy Kong's return to the series was inspired by Smash? I feel as Diddy Kong would have returned regardless of whenever or not he appeared in Smash.

And in regards to weight, I'm not sure if he should be as heavy as people want him to be, given that fat weight less than muscle and King K. Rool in comparison to Bowser is fat.

@BKupa666: Dreamwork movies, while okay, are pretty forgettable. Really don't like how they force humor into their stories. I'd like to see more movies like Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron made

Pretty sure it was, Mostly because I wouldn't imagine him being in a DKC with the peanut popgun and jetpack if he hadn't.

 

[Opossum]

You know what might be funny, but random? Kowboy K. Rool. Lasso, pistol, a horse that can barely hold him...and then no one would want Sheriff

Just a random K. Rool thought.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Queen K. Rooless