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On the contrary, I personally believe that if he was going to be in Smash Ultimate, especially as DLC, he would be mostly based off of his modern counterpart. Simon had more of a reason to be based off of his classic appearance for Smash because Konami had already been re-representing Simon in his classic appearance in games before Smash Ultimate, like Super Bomberman R in 2017 and Castevania: Grimoire of Souls in 2019. Simon's current modern appearance IS his classic appearance as far as Konami and marketing is concerned. Ryu Hayabusa though, is almost always represented in his modern appearance in Koei Tecmo's games as of late. See Dead or Alive 6 and Warriors Orochi 4 Ultimate in 2019. Also, that Rise of Kingdoms collaboration you posted before represented Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge. It should also be self explanatory why they are releasing a remastered modern trilogy to current platforms instead of, say, releasing all 3 NES games on NES Switch Online or NES Mini. They want to gauge interest in the modern Ninja Gaiden series. Yasuda has also recently gone on record saying he wants to work on a Ninja Gaiden sequel for Xbox as well, it should be pretty obvious he means a modern sequel.
I'm doing okay. How about you?
Well, I've been gone from this forum for a bit after all of the interviews that came out kinda bummed me out, and several days ago I had a huge blow-up on the Crash forum over something unrelated that got me angry, which I regret terribly, so I decided to take a break for about 5 days to chill out and get my mind straight. I think I had just got so into Smash that it started to get unhealthy for me, and I needed to take a break from it.
Everybody has their days. Sometimes a break from everything is all that you really need to get your head straight. Glad that you’re back!
What is the third image from?
This doesn't change Ryu Hayabusa's chances at all.
So what's the problem?
It’s not a problem I just don’t see the scenario where he is revealed this month with the presentation being in June
That should be no surprise. An E3 reveal makes the most sense.
It just makes me wonder though, I mean they don’t have to do this but it’s something I am thinking about, the Master Collection releases on June 10th 5 days before E3 so wouldn’t it make more sense to release it on like the 17th or 18th to coincide with a Smash reveal? It doesn’t have too since the Monster Hunter Mii’s released for Monster Hunter Rise which was releasing later in the month but it is something I was thinking about
I'm actually predicting the next presentation to be some time in the next couple of weeks. Ever since Steve came out, the developers seem to have gotten back on their original 2-month development schedule that they managed to do with Fighters Pass 1 (You've got to factor in the team likely taking off for the holidays after they finished Sephiroth, which was only about a week and a half). Since Pyra and Mythra came out March 4th, we'll be at exactly 2 months since their release next week, and if Challenger 10 is someone that isn't that complicated to make, I honestly feel like we're gonna find out who the next character is some time in the next couple of weeks!
Ehhh my only problem with that is that’s way too short of a period between announcements like announcing Challenger Pack 10 now and Challenger Pack 11 at E3 is just way too short of a period of time and seems very unlikely of an outcome too me, I am expecting a E3 reveal and Mr Sakurai Presents in June and A reveal and presentation in September it just makes the most sense to me to do it that way to prolong the life of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate rather than showing both at E3 or doing one in May and then one in June. It’s possible but I’m not counting on it Although I will admit the 2 month development cycle between Steve, Sephiroth, and Pyra and Mythra give me hope that “yeah something could happen this month” but since E3 is going to be a thing with Nintendo in attendance it just seems very unlikely too me that that will happen this month
But Piranha Plant and Joker were announced only a month and some change apart. Sure, they didn't release until a few months later, and 2 months apart from each other, but it has happened before. Also, to prolong the life of Smash Ultimate? You gotta remember that Sakurai and Bandai Namco have been continually working on Smash for about a decade at this point. A lot of developers usually get a really long break after working on a major game (I mean, unless you work for companies like Activision or EA), but since about 2012, Smash has been going constantly from the beginning of Smash 4, to starting Ultimate almost immediately after Smash 4 DLC wrapped up, to today with 2 more DLC characters remaining for Ultimate. I'm sure that if they've gotten their groove back and are back on a more consistent development cycle to where they can get the last 2 characters done more efficiently, they would prefer to do that instead of prolonging it, because a bunch of people on here either haven't gotten their most-wanted character yet and wanna keep pushing things in the hopes of getting them, or their worried about what they're going to do after DLC wraps up because they feel like they can't come on here and speculate anymore. I know that sounds harsh, but it's kinda true at the same time.
That does make sense, I'll admit but it also makes just as much sense to announce Hayabusa while the Master Collection is already available for people who might decide to try it out if they want to learn more about the character and his series.
My thing is, would they announce a character one month before an event like E3? By that point, the gap between Pyra/Mythra's release and the next character reveal would be just like the one between Joker and both Hero and Banjo, as they were also revealed at E3 three months later. This could very well be the same thing here.
Still doesn’t really make sense too me personally too do the last 2 at E3, it is totally possible that that’s what their gonna do given that they’ve done it before (Hero and Banjo-Kazooie) but the thing about them is that we only knew about Joker for the first Fighters Pass and that’s it we knew nobody else for like 6 months since Smash’s launch and we were promised all characters by February 2020, this pass however still says that all DLC will arrive before December 31st 2021 which kinda suggests to me that Challenger Pack 11 is coming way later in the year. So I’m expecting Challenger Pack 10 in June and Challenger Pack 11 in September most likely it just seems to be the move Nintendo is making like a reveal in May and then a reveal in June is way too short of a period for Smash news it doesn’t make any sense too do a reveal a month before E3 as Nintendo will definitely want to have Smash there (unless they do a May reveal and have some other huge Smash news like Fighters Pass VOL. 3 or something which I don’t see as the case). Also I know I made the argument earlier that they are separating the reveal between Challenger Pack 10 and 11 as much as possible (Challenger Pack 10 in June and Challenger Pack 11 in September) is because they are pretty much going too keep Ultimate alive as long as possible I still stand by that argument, even though the development of Super Smash Bros. has been going on since 2012 with the start of the development of Super Smash Bros. For Wii U & 3DS, Nintendo will definitely still prolong Smash Ultimate as long as possible for the suspense and surprise it just seems fairly obvious that that’s what’s going on here
It’s from the last cutscene of Abobo’s Big Adventure.
I just want to know because that looks like a good pose he could make in the panoramic artwork (though I think the sword would be in his right hand).I think that's a 3D illustration byRETROROTER ?
I made that, how do you have it?
As already mentioned, you posted it here before.
Can I just say once again that you do a great job on these Mario, Banjo-Kazooie, Ryu and Kasumi crossover pics?
Ohhh right right sorry I forgot that I did that
Thank You! Here’s another one!
You know, it's nice that you pay attention to that sort of detail. In all official artworks and appearances I believe Ryu's always held the sword in his right hand making him a righty. It also made me realize Sephiroth is a lefty, you learn something new everyday...
Nothing so far.
I see. Well, I guess I could use this time to point out something I noticed recently about both Bandai Namco and SNK's representation in Smash. So in Smash Ultimate, both companies are currently represented by a single fighter, unlike Sega, Square Enix, Capcom and Konami, who each have 3, and Microsoft, who has 2. However, unlike those companies' fighters, Pac-Man and Terry appear to be representing more than just their respective series, but more-or-less, their respective companies' entire game libraries (or retro library in Namco's case). And maybe that's because Namco and SNK only have one character in comparison to those other 5 companies.
I was actually thinking about this yesterday no joke
and yeah I could see it be that way where if it is him, it would most likely be that kind of situation where Mr. Sakurai goes with Ryu Hayabusa because he is the most iconic KOEI TECMO character but Ryu Hayabusa himself brings a lot of classic content (like Solomon’s Key, FIRE AND ICE, Mighty Bomb Jack, and RYGAR as examples) and modern content (FATAL FRAME, DEAD OR ALIVE, Dynasty Warriors, and more) while the main focus is on the NINJA GAIDEN series specifically the NES take of the series like Simon Belmont and CastleVania for instance. Also this is not a deconfirm but I find it funny and ironic that when the Yasuda interviews happened people are like “oH hAyAbUsA iS dEcOnFiRmEd GuYs” and then when this happens everyone is making the same argument as we have been “oh Toys for Bob wouldn’t be the one you have too talk too about that” which is true they wouldn’t know about Crash in Smash but what I’m basically getting at is is that it’s the same thing between Team NINJA and KOEI TECMO https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1391377426953998339?s=21
I think it's highly possible that Hayabusa could come with content from the Dead or Alive and Warriors series since he's a regular character in both. Music tracks and spirits.
I'm not gonna lie, I've never heard of FIRE AND ICE, Solomon's Key, Mighty Bomb Jack and RYGARI was actually thinking about this yesterday no joke
and I even brought up my initial doubt on Ryu from those interviews when talking about this tweet in the Crash forum. But, I've learned my lesson on that, so I wasn't really worried about what Toys For Bob said about Crash in Smash.I mean, even if it's just Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive, Fatal Frame and Warriors content that comes with Ryu, and nothing from Nioh, I'd still consider that a mostly Koei Tecmo represented challenger pack.
I personally don't believe Koei Tecmo would act like SNK and throw in a bunch of tangentially related franchises with a series that isn't even their most successful one. I would agree at the very least other Team Ninja content to be included, i.e. Dead or Alive, Nioh, etc., but zero Koei content, namely Warriors stuff.
I guess. As long as Ryu comes with content from at least Ninja Gaiden (Classic and Modern), Dead or Alive, Fatal Frame and Nioh, since they're all an interconnected story, I think that's enough for me to still make my idea hold up well.
Why is that interesting? It's just a game company retweeting an interview about something related to them personally. All companies do that.