Just so I don't look like an idiot, is this already known?

[GimR]

You can cancel your running animation with standing grab while only adding one extra frame of lag to the standing grab, was this already known?

 

[saviorslegacy]

Is it shield dash + A for standing grab?
IDK if it is well known, but I use it.

 

[GimR]

No, when you do that you have to shield for 3 frames before you can standing grab. My method also makes you slide further.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Inputs would be helpful......

 

[GimR]

Inputs would be helpful......

okay, I don't want this leaving the lab though cause Imma make a vid


It's called Skid Canceled Shield Grabbing (SCSG)


You know how when you stop running you start skidding?

Well when you are running let go of the control stick but on the exact same frame press shield
(This cancels the skid wit shield with out it even coming out)

on the next frame you press A and you'll standing grab

It looks like jump canceled grabbing from Melee.


It's funny how simple it is, yet no one thought of it

1. be in mid run
2. let go of control stick and press shield at the exact same time
3. press A
4. looks like jump canceld grabbing from melee

PS: you'll also slide further since with the shield properties in this game you slow down fast the longer your shield is out. Since you only have your shield out for 1 frame you'll slide further plus the grab comes out faster


PS2: This is really good for GW and Shiek since they start their run animations really early


PS3: You can do a shorter chain grab with D3 by doing a certain variation of this. Instead of only being able to do 7 accross FD you can do 8

 

[KayLo!]

Skid Canceling*

Skid's being canceled, not the grab.

/petpeeve

 

[GimR]

yeah it that's why it would be called skid canceled shield grab. you're canceling the skid with the shield grab.

Kind of like L canceling which stands for lag canceling since you're canceling the lag

 

[KayLo!]

You just disagreed with me, then agreed with me in the next sentence lol.

It should be "canceling," but whatevs, don't mind me. =X Just a pet peeve.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Cancelling would be the correct vernacular.

 

[GimR]

how would I say it's being canceled by the shield grab?

 

[KayLo!]

Skid Canceling Shield Grab = shield grab that is canceling the skid.

Ex: Flesh eating worm = worm that is eating the flesh

Kinda gross, but it was the first example I could think of. ;; Too much Animal Planet.

 

[GimR]

alright I'll call it that, I've been out knowledged. Are you guys testing it?

 

[KayLo!]

It definitely works. Dunno if it's known already tho. *shrug*

 

[GimR]

It comes out the fastest and you slide the furthest, plus, it has less lag then a dash grab in case you miss.

Have you ever chased tornado down and missed the dash grab and then got punished?

 

[phi1ny3]

lol standard terms breakdown ftl

 

[Yikarur]

thats interesteing o: but I don't see it sliding any further. Seems to be very very little o:

 

[A2ZOMG]

I gotta see if by any dumb chance Mario and Pit can get super sliding standing grabs from this. As you guys may already know, Mario and Pit can do this with their Up-smashes on certain frames of running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUPjixhEivs

 

[GimR]

I gotta see if by any dumb chance Mario and Pit can get super sliding standing grabs from this. As you guys may already know, Mario and Pit can do this with their Up-smashes on certain frames of running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUPjixhEivs

I did not know this, what frame do you have to usmash on?


@Yik: The slide varies from character to character. For example: Marth's Grab completely stops his momentum so he get's no boost where as Ive climbers get a noticeable boost.

Also, Yoshi doesn't have to let go of dash to get this result.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

More than likely, it has to do with friction.

 

[GimR]

More than likely, it has to do with friction.

friction combined with the fact that your shield slows down your friction the longer you have it up

 

[A2ZOMG]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=286070

This is what I submitted to get entry into the Smash Lab, but anyhow I have data for both Mario and Pit's Sliding Up-smashes there.

 

[GimR]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=286070

This is what I submitted to get entry into the Smash Lab, but anyhow I have data for both Mario and Pit's Sliding Up-smashes there.

cool, btw, if you press up forward and A on the same frame you'll usmash the next frame

 

[saviorslegacy]

the Ice climbers get a noticeable boost.

the Ice climbers get a boost.

the Ice climbers boost.

the Ice climbers

Ah **** it......

 

[Orion*]

ill try and incorporate it this weekend into some matches and see what i can get for you guys

seems very straightforward though-> you get a boost, vs you dont lol


im waiting for when we can cancel the dash with grab oh god, i hate having all the laggy dash frames at the start -.-

 

[thexsunrosered]

I think I saw a video of this on youtube a while ago but it's not there anymore o.o

and sorry I'm not active much anymore guys, I'm in the process of getting married and it kinda keeps me busy

 

[KayLo!]

Oh wow, congrats!

 

[Orion*]

Ask pierce if he knows about it if you really want to know if it's known or not.

If pierce doesn't know it, you're probably good to go