thank you for the option to deadline extend, this is ****ing mylo and I'm getting ****ing drowned with **** to do at work right now so I'll take all the time I can get
Vote: Deadline extension
agreed that even though it was scum!Kev he definitely could have been on to something. Funnily enough, my theory right now is that kevin was strating to play more like his town self after tom died and he saw the writing on the wall for lore. I think he mustve realized his only strategy was just to be as pro-town as possible but just enough so that he wouldnt pull an NK since he was his team's anchor. It makes sense giving that he was really not exactly spearheading wagons but rather pushing more popular ones as a good advocate but never the face of the movement so to speak. I think he wanted to legitimately scum hunt and get massive town cred for nailing WWs and then ride that cred to endgame but without being perceived as "team leader" who would eat the WW bullet immediately if he started running train on them and didn't even try to hide the fact that he was the driving force behind the scum hunting that lead town to the WWs. unfortunately though it seems like he flew a little too close to the sun perhaps and whoever the WWs are actually did perceive him in that leader role
viewing kevs play as more "off" when he had more to lose when both tom and lore weren't under so much pressure really explains why I felt a contrast between his D1, D2, and even D3 play a bit. and given what I believe was an evolution of his strategy, I think his late game reads re: potential WWs could bear some fruit for us with proper consideration
tbh this is a great meta observation. Lore was super defensive about so much of the pressure he was getting, but you're right, he never seemed to lash out on Kev even tho kev was essentially along for the ride on the pressure/lynch lore train. We heard plenty of critique from lore re: everyone else "not having good reasons" to be pressuring lore but kev lowkey had a pass
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what did you mean in the post pythag is quoting here? Are you actually saying you're town reading Z25 now, or did you just mean you're not explicitly scumreading him and instead just have him back to null? You saying you were "wiping your slate clean" seems to imply the latter but I want to be sure because pythag has a point here
Absolutely not. No one is leaping anywhere on my scumdar right now. No kneejerk ****. All I know is that I've been getting outplayed by the WWs hard and that taking obvious WIFOM bait like that is going to make town lose this game. Clearly if you're WW you stood to gain from an RR mislynch yesterday and you don't even look that bad for it because you've been so consistent on the slot all game. If you're WW and Z25 is your buddy that's the juiciest ML you could have possibly cashed in yesterday because no one can call you an opportunist. Z25's slot has always bothered me this game and now I'm feeling like I went for a hail mary taking the RR flip because I got so caught up in the you vs. RR connection and really I should've gone for the slot that I felt played overall scummier, Z25. problem is now I can't ****ing get Z25's flip without risking a loss if he's actually ****ing town
this whole post is just straight grime
first he tries to act like only kevin has pushes his slot so the fact that kevin has lived this long somehow proves that Z25 cant be WW because he wouldve done yomi level 1 WW killing and killed his "biggest" pressure source immediately. this is as laughable as WIFOM can get. The obvious answer is that despite kevin's pressure, guess what? We didn't ****ing lynch z25. clearly kevin's pressure wasn't bringing Z25 to the chopping block, so why get trigger happy and kill a slot that is putting just-not-quite-enough pressure on you to be lethal? of course though with the diluted player base, and with kevin having really no other targets left to draw his attention, killing kevin going into MYLO certainly pays dividends for your slot
you slotting me and maven as plays today reeks of opportunism, especially considering you literally offer up gut reads as your justification. In ****ing mylo. like bruh, I'm not one to shy away from a gut read, like I clearly shouldve listed to it on kevin but instead let him pat my *** for looking in the wrong places all game, but this lynch pool is straight sus as ****. Like wtf is "oh hey guys I totally thought kev was scum the whole time and frozen's kinda like kev even though they cant be aligned so teehee guess that means WW!"
frankly i'm getting the vibe that you knew RR was gonna be a townflip and were ready to use that as leverage to pounce on me today as the remaining "leader" of that mislynch after killing kev for the above described reasons
this is how I read what rajam's argument is as well, and though I follow the logic I don't think there's enough to really prove that you (pythag) weren't just being imprecise with your wording. If you were more strongly claiming that I was "confirmed town," instead of just commenting on your general assessment of my towniness, which is how I interpreted that post, I would buy the argument more. But again I more got the vibe that you were more or less saying "tom's scum flip makes FF look better as a slot" instead of a claim that I was firmly not scum and not WW.
What are you talking about? I didn't do a massive wall of text but I did post a salvo of RR ISO quotes and observations at end of day, did you miss that or are you literally saying a didn't ISO RR despite that effort?
You and Z25 both grouping pythag and me like this has me anxious af that you're the WW pair trying to prime us as lynch candidates today with little explicit basis just so that you have the option. all of a sudden defending Z25 as town because you just think he's overreacting to pressure? like what is this ****. part of me wants to believe you'd never go all in and open buddy like this but this is like a jarringly bad take
Raxxel
Rajam
Pythag
is anyone else seeing this or am I crazy for thinking maven/Z25 WW?