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juggling help

Zantetsu

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Lately I switched from being a ganon main to being a fox and falcon main (I wanted my mains on ssb64 to be the same on melee :p) My falcon is doing good none the less but I'm having a slight problem with juggling. When i start with a dair, up-throw, up-smash, etc. then go into a uair/nair i never can run up to my opponent a get in another uair or nair. Any tips? Thx
 

Vall3y

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it doesn't sound like your opponent's di is amazing, so its probably the speed of the shffl
actually chaining nairs is very situational, while uairs suit almost every combo situation
make sure you do them fast enough, and send the attack at the right time, and you usually want to do the fast fall as soon as you reach the peak of the jump, not after the attack
 

Zantetsu

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it doesn't sound like your opponent's di is amazing
I live in a town full of noobs who dont know advance techs. Only one person does besides me.

actually chaining nairs is very situational, while uairs suit almost every combo situation
make sure you do them fast enough
Could using my c stick to do uair's make it slower? Because i use it to do uair's to avoid second jumps.

and you usually want to do the fast fall as soon as you reach the peak of the jump, not after the attack
Lol never even thought of doing that. I'l try that :)
 

Afro_Ninja

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csticking your uairs should make them faster if anything, I would think. The timing on all of it is very touchy, you just gotta practice. Even if you shffl it perfectly, you gotta smash the control stick into a run again right as you land to keep the momentum. I seem to mess up there a lot
 

Oskurito

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Shuffle as fast as you can and quickly tap the control stick to dash and reach them. Yeah it happens to me sometimes I hate it >_< speacially when I'm on the middle of a sexy 0 to death combo
 

Psychoace

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csticking your uairs should make them faster if anything, I would think. The timing on all of it is very touchy, you just gotta practice. Even if you shffl it perfectly, you gotta smash the control stick into a run again right as you land to keep the momentum. I seem to mess up there a lot
Actually c-sticking an upair would take longer than just pushing upa it gives you a lot better chance in the shorthopping area. Now you could do it that way if you've developed a habbit like that. I do that with my dairs for me their easier to cancel with c-stick. If its a combo uair at low percents you won't get very many out of it with fastfallers, but yeah just do as Oskurito suggested.
 

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A c-stick of any A move (or shield roll) comes out the first frame possible, so it will be faster. You just have to train your hands to use the c-stick quickly. Not only that, but when you're using the control stick to uair, you might accidentally cause DI or even jump, which totally messes up the combo.

All I can say it practice the timing when you actually hit someone. If you hit someone with uair, there is a slight delay in L-cancelling before you hit the ground because of the hitlag. Practice on a heavy character and have them stand on a platform above you and just shffl uairs (stadium, dreamland, yoshi's). Plus, percentages play an important part in this. Find the right % (ex: for marth - at or just a bit over 0%, ganon - around 50%) for the character you want to combo and attempt your throw/nair/uair -> knee chain from there. Too high a % will make them fly out of reach, too low of a % and they'll just land early.
 

TheManaLord

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c stick your aerials, just get used to planning what will happen, not waiting to see, this is the key to juggling at very low percents, just throw out those uairs as fast as possible.
 

Binx

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I didn't read the other comments but for Uairs you should do some of them lower to the ground with the tip of your foot, so jump fastall and knock them up right before you touch the ground, also sometimes you should do one and double jump into another one, after a certain damage you should probably go ahead and knee to get an edgegaurd started.
 

TheManaLord

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I didn't read the other comments but for Uairs you should do some of them lower to the ground with the tip of your foot, so jump fastall and knock them up right before you touch the ground, also sometimes you should do one and double jump into another one, after a certain damage you should probably go ahead and knee to get an edgegaurd started.
Or just do them right away.

Frame perfect style.
 

Proud_Smash_N00b

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Some characters are alot easier to juggle than others.

Fox and Falco are VERY HARD to juggle because they are fastfallers and they get sent too far away to hit them with another Uair or Nair.
 

KingJiggyWiggy

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PFFT. When will you ever see? I do not believe that you can see the light from where you are at. You must switch your main to Bowser so you can juggle Fox from (literally) 0-999% damage.

lol wow. amateurs.
 

JonaDiaper

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PFFT. When will you ever see? I do not believe that you can see the light from where you are at. You must switch your main to Bowser so you can juggle Fox from (literally) 0-999% damage.

lol wow. amateurs.
why do you invade the falcon threads? no one cares about bowser. the knee>bowser. the knee should be its own character. all you have to do it move and you get a constant chain of perfectly timed sweet spotted knees.
 

Burr

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why do you invade the falcon threads? no one cares about bowser. the knee>bowser. the knee should be its own character. all you have to do it move and you get a constant chain of perfectly timed sweet spotted knees.
psh i care about bowser, for he is the beast
 
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