Japanese vs. American Tier Lists

[Xiivi]

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America:
1. Meta Knight
2. Snake
3. Falco
4. King Dedede
5. Mr. Game & Watch
6. Marth
7. Diddy Kong
8. Wario
9. R.O.B.
10. Lucario
11. Olimar
12. Pikachu
13. Kirby
14. Donkey Kong
15. Ice Climbers
16. Zero Suit Samus
17. Toon Link
18. Pit
19. Peach
20. Wolf
21. Luigi
22. Zelda
23. Bowser
24. Fox
25. Sheik
26. Ike
27. Mario
28. Lucas
29. Ness
30. Samus
31. Sonic
32. Pokémon Trainer
33. Yoshi
34. Link
35. Jigglypuff
36. Ganondorf
37. Captain Falcon

Japan:
1. Metaknight
2. Snake
3. Falco
4. Pit (+14)
5. Diddy (+2)
6. King Dedede (-2)
7. Marth (-1)
8. Fox (+16)
9. Mr. Game and Watch (-4)
10. Wario (-2)
11. Captain Olimar
12. Wolf (+8)
13. R.O.B (-4)
14. Lucario (-4)
15. Zelda + Sheik (+7; +10)
17. Toon Link
18. Zero Suit Samus (-2)
19. Ice Climbers (-4)
20. Pikachu (-8)
21. Donkey Kong (-7)
22. Peach (-3)
23. Kirby (-10)
24. Mario (+3)
25. Luigi (-4)
26. Ike
27. Lucas (+1)
28. Bowser (-5)
29. Link (+5)
30. Pokemon Trainer (+2)
31. Sonic
32. Jigglpuff (+3)
33. Ness (-4)
34. Yoshi (-1)
35. Samus (-5)
36. Captain Falcon (+1)
37. Ganondorf (-1)

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All changes greater than 5 spots are highlighted.

Also note Zelda and Sheik are combined in Japanese tier list.

Very interesting.

I made this for my own personal convenience.

 

[Alphicans]

Oh wow I never realized how high pit was on the japanese tier list. G&W is pretty far down there wtf.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Yeah, some of the differences are glaring, such as Fox +16, and Pit +14. Other than those, the basic structure of where most characters are is kinda similar.

 

[Steeler]

i like how toon link, ike, and sonic are the exact same

i also like how fox is up 16 spots and pikachu is down 8 spots. correlation much??

 

[bobson]

It should be noted that Final Destination, Battlefield, Smashville, Yoshi's, Halberd and Lylat are the only stages allowed for tournaments there. Knowing that, I'm surprised Dedede moved down.

Also, "jap" is censored, which is the dumbest thing I've seen all day.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

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Japan:
15. Zelda + Sheik (+7; +10)
17. Toon Link
18. Zero Suit Samus (-2)
19. Ice Climbers (-4)
20. Pikachu (-8)
21. Donkey Kong (-7)
22. Peach (-3)
23. Kirby (-10)
24. Mario (+3)
25. Luigi (-4)
26. Ike
27. Lucas (+1)
28. Bowser (-5)
29. Link (+5)
30. Pokemon Trainer (+2)
31. Sonic
32. Jigglpuff (+3)
33. Ness (-4)
34. Yoshi (-1)
35. Samus (-5)
36. Captain Falcon (+1)
37. Ganondorf (-1)

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All changes greater than 5 spots are highlighted.

Also note Zelda and Sheik are combined in Japanese tier list.

Very interesting.

I made this for my own personal convenience.

Toon Link should be 16...who's missing? o_o

 

[bobson]

Toon Link should be 16...who's missing? o_o

Mewtwo. ;_;

 

[ndayday]

Zelda and Sheik are counted as one character.

 

[Nelo Vergil]

I think its because Z/S are combined Yuki

 

[Xiivi]

It is because of Zelda/Sheik being combined, yes.

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

Link may be higher as the Japanese have too much honor to gimp him.
I mean, it is cold to gimp a Link.

 

[Xiivi]

I don't consider +/- 5 or less a significant enough change to actually matter when comparing the two lists and trying to get something from them. Just minor variation. Greater than +/- 5 makes me interested in looking at the differences though.

 

[Lord Viper]

☆ I like how Kirby is mid tier... WHERE THE **** IS A GOOD KIRBY MAIN IN JAPAN!!! ☆

 

[Snare]

the final tier list for us will probably look more like the japanese one imo.

you have to remember that they probably have more pit players over there than we do, and less of different characters, so the metagame for their characters will probably evolve differently than ours.

also the japanese tier list has one less character because they count zelda + sheik as one person

 

[bow master1]

wow fox 16 thats really freaking awesome.also good that t.link didnt change and -1 is nothing marth will always b great.

 

[SothE700k]

Fox not on Japanese top tier?
Wat?

 

[Poltergust]

Why is Yoshi so low? If the Yoshi player bans Battlefield then he really doesn't have a bad stage out of the five remaining. =/

Karamity, step it up! D:

 

[SexTornado]

wtf y is pit so high?? lolz

 

[IC3R]

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. . .
19. Ice Climbers (-4)
20. Pikachu (-8)
21. Donkey Kong (-7)
22. Peach (-3)
23. Kirby (-10)
24. Mario (+3)
25. Luigi (-4)
26. Ike
27. Lucas (+1)
. . .

LIEZ!!!!!

10liez

 

[Nelo Vergil]

The truly amazing thing is Fox, personally I believe that this means likely not many Pika players exsist (or they dont know the CG) thus enabling more Fox's, which in turn help evolve his meta game against other characters.

MK will always be #1 though

Remember people, just because your main is low, it doesnt mean hes bad in JP, just less users of him/less skill

 

[IC3R]

Hardly anyone in Japan plays Kirby. FASSIVE MAILURE!

 

[DKKountry]

The Fox/Pika change-up makes me smile. I'd rather fight a MK team than a Pikachu, I don't know why lol.

 

[OutlawStar]

YES +16 Fox, yay Fox
NOO too bad for Kirby though.
And YAY Link is up some

Maybe the reason Pit is so high
is because his voice is different in the Japanese
and isn`t a horror to the ears, so people
can actually stand to fight him and concentrate.

 

[kr3wman]

I'm pretty sure he had the 'AYAYAYAYAYAYAYA' in the japanese version too.

 

[Chaco]

I'd find the results of a tournament in the US with just those legal stages interesting.

Someone should do that. If anyone, I can see Xyro doing it at like a HOBO.

 

[Xyro77]

yea, i will try just about anything

 

[Nelo Vergil]

Im willing to try it in my upcoming tournament Im making with Samus, but the results wont mean much if everyone uses the same old ppl that usually show up

 

[bobson]

I'm pretty sure he had the 'AYAYAYAYAYAYAYA' in the japanese version too.

But his voice when he says it is adorable <3

 

[Nelo Vergil]

Btw this is bugging me, why is Halberd a neutral in japan, and no CPing anyway. I know the hazards arent huge issues, but it seems...odd, and why isnt PS1 (which I hate with a passion) legal there?

 

[bobson]

Btw this is bugging me, why is Halberd a neutral in japan, and no CPing anyway. I know the hazards arent huge issues, but it seems...odd, and why isnt PS1 (which I hate with a passion) legal there?

Battlefield, FD, and Smashville are neutrals. Yoshi's, Lylat and Halberd are CPs.

(Halberd should be a neutral)

 

[Nelo Vergil]

Oh, I misunderstood it for everything was legal. Well the CP list is sure short than =/

 

[Meru.]

Peach -3 Oh no! Dx

Pit's placement gave me a heart attack.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Kirby's placing is disgusting to me.

 

[Teran]

Pit's placement is probably due to his Yaoi fanbase.

 

[Meru.]

^^^

Whaha XDD

Of course, what else?

 

[Super Angry Luigi]

Luigi -4

Good, Luigi should go down and be below Mario.

 

[Lovely]

Luigi -4

Good, Luigi should go down and be below Mario.

There hasn't been any very good Luigi performance in Japan. Over all, Luigi is much better than Mario when it come's to recovery, more kill moves and combo's. If anyone say that Luigi should be low on the tier must not be playing him right.

 

[OmegaXF]

Marth X(
Why?

 

[Cherry64]

So! Pit officially doesn't suck anymore

And samus still sucks a big one,

Spoiler

10^ innuendo's

 

[Lesleyk]

Link to original post: Japanese vs. American Tier Lists


Japan:
1. Metaknight
2. Snake
3. Falco
4. Pit (+14)
5. Diddy (+2)
6. King Dedede (-2)
7. Marth (-1)
8. Fox (+16)
9. Mr. Game and Watch (-4)


Atleast the Japanese people know their stuff