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Studstill

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Fox dittos are dumb. It comes down to who throws who out of the stage and follow it up with a shine/edgeguard. They're kind of like Falcon dittos in a way, so who wins won't mean much because the ditto MU is dumb.
All match ups are valid, not dumb; especially dittos. This foolish idea that the character, NOT the player, determines the outcome of a match is ridiculous.
 

rawrimamonster

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Fox dittos are dumb. It comes down to who throws who out of the stage and follow it up with a shine/edgeguard. They're kind of like Falcon dittos in a way, so who wins won't mean much because the ditto MU is dumb.
Only scrub foxes play gimp dittos. Gimp dittos are the least entertaining and least respectful way to ever play fox dittos in 64. Be a man and combo, **** the dreamland generation.
 

NovaSmash

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Fox dittos are dumb. It comes down to who throws who out of the stage and follow it up with a shine/edgeguard. They're kind of like Falcon dittos in a way, so who wins won't mean much because the ditto MU is dumb.
Getting 4 stocked by boom in a falcon ditto definitely means that boom is way better. No bad player is gonna beat someone good in a ditto just because the "matchup is dumb"
 

Skrlx

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All match ups are valid, not dumb; especially dittos. This foolish idea that the character, NOT the player, determines the outcome of a match is ridiculous.
Of course all MUs are valid, but that doesn't mean that they can't also be dumb. Ditto MUs are intrinsically about exploiting your own character's flaws. Fox's flaw, in this case, is getting thrown out of the stage and shined. Rinse and repeat. You see, the character is irrelevant. It's all on who gets the grab first and following it up. Therefore, I'm not sure where you got the latter part of your post from.

Getting 4 stocked by boom in a falcon ditto definitely means that boom is way better. No bad player is gonna beat someone good in a ditto just because the "matchup is dumb"
I can get him to one stock. It doesn't mean anything. In fact, boom feels the same way I do. If you get consistently 4 stocked, that means the skill gap between you and him is just that big. Either that or he has more experience in that MU. Falcon dittos are so volatile that they don't really say much.
 
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rawrimamonster

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Of course all MUs are valid, but that doesn't mean that they can't also be dumb. Ditto MUs are intrinsically about exploiting your own character's flaws. Fox's flaw, in this case, is getting thrown out of the stage and shined. Rinse and repeat. You see, the character is irrelevant. It's all on who gets the grab first and following it up. Therefore, I'm not sure where you got the latter part of your post from.
I gotta make a point on this first, lol. Saying grab=kill comparatively to a falcon ditto = dumb because that's what a high level Falcon ditto is. I admit those 2 matchups can be very skewed because of what you said, exploiting their weaknesses...you just kinda made a dumb comparison. lol
 

Skrlx

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The only fun ditto MUs are Samus and Link. :)

EDIT: ANYWAYS, my whole point of my initial post was that the result of Hipstur vs LD won't hold too much weight considering the MU is kind of bad where it's just gimp after gimp. It would really depend on who gets hit/grabbed out of the stage first. So... don't get hit/grabbed? :happysheep:
 
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mixa

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i hope when you scrubs die whether you go to heaven or hell will be decided on a 1 stock fox ditto on metal cavern

record pls

(u can minus my pointz, herbert)
 

Skrlx

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Sign me up as DK

This is NEAR
 
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rainshifter

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On behalf of Killer, what are the rules regarding playing the same opponent twice or more? Is it once per day, once per same tier level, allowable if not consecutively played, or something else?
 

Herbert Von Karajan

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On behalf of Killer, what are the rules regarding playing the same opponent twice or more? Is it once per day, once per same tier level, allowable if not consecutively played, or something else?
Once per tier level. Otherwise wait till other people get into your tier

2014-04-01, C, hipstur, Studstill
lol +2 vs -2
 
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Studstill

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I didn't even know he was -2, he was just looking for C rank matches. I found out later and felt bad for it :c
First off, settle down with the feeling bad. I`m pretty sure those could have gone either way, lol. Secondly, great games, and I would have loved for the point-point rule to be enforced, but since it isn`t Matchplaying>ruleloving, IMO.
 

Skrlx

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2014-04-01, C, Near, SheerMADNESS
 
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Lawn Chair

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With enough participants, this could be the most accurate online tier list.

Currently there are 41 participants

Post here, PM me, or msg me on facebook to get added.

matches, maintained by Studstill: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jqIHsw7FlPaO_blsR2LPF0WxhwsZpJlw0TRxTJ_tauo/edit#gid=0

SS Tier

S Tier

A Tier (2)
:luigi64: Get $$$ { 0 } 2014-04-01
:falcon64: SuPeRbOoMfAn { 0 } 2014-04-01

B Tier (4)
:fox64: Hipstur { 0 } 2014-04-01
:fox64: Blue Suit { 0 } 2014-04-01
:kirby64: Stranded { 0 } 2014-03-31

:yoshi64: Fireblaster { -1 } 2014-04-01
:fox64: Dext3r { -1 } 2014-04-01
:samus64: Cobr { -1 } 2014-03-31
C Tier (29)

:pikachu64: MrMarbles { +2 } 2014-04-01
:fox64: The Z { +2 } 2014-04-01
:kirby64: Revan { +2 } 2014-04-01
:mario64: breakthrough { +2 } 2014-03-31

:dk64: Near { +1 } 2014-04-01
:pikachu64: Mariguas { +1 } 2014-04-01
:jigglypuff64: ybombb { +1 } 2014-03-29

:kirby64: \\Killer// { 0 } 2014-04-01
:falcon64: NovaSmash { 0 } 2014-03-31
:fox64: caneut { 0 } 2014-03-30
:fox64: KniteFox { 0 }
:dk64: tacos { 0 }
:pikachu64: Battlecow { 0 }
:fox64: $@M&R { 0 }
:kirby64: KRYSTYAN { 0 }


:ness64: SheerMadness { -1 } 2014-04-01
:yoshi64: Komo { -1 } 2014-04-01
:falcon64: JosephZander { -1 } 2014-04-01
:pikachu64: Dial_911 { -1 } 2014-04-01
:falcon64: Sensei { -1 } 2014-04-01
:yoshi64: M!nt { -1 } 2014-04-01
:kirby64: Karajan { -1 } 2014-03-31
:falcon64: .SHIZSEI. ( -1 } 2014-03-31
:falcon64: soup { -1 } 2014-03-31
:pikachu64: Bowl { -1 } 2014-03-27

:pikachu64: Shears { -2 } 2014-03-29
:falcon64: Combo Blaze { -2 } 2014-03-26
D Tier (6)
:kirby64: Studstill { 0 } 2014-04-01
:falcon64: Zero { 0 } 2014-03-31
:falcon64: Metacopolys { 0 } 2014-03-31
:fox64: Ducky { 0 } 2014-03-29

:fox64: Umbra { -1 } 2014-03-31
:mario64: Beardhammer { -1 } 2014-03-31
:pikachu64: onmy. { -1 } 2014-03-28
F Tier


Email recordings (krec) to karajan.ssb@gmail.com

You can give me the files for your matches if you want; I will upload all matches to Youtube.


add me to whatever thingy
 
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