Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

[Ghirahilda]

I'm really thinking that Isaac got promoted from Assist to Playable!

There is no other reason for Sakurai didn't showing him with the others great Assist Trophies (Lyndis, Waluigi, Saki, Starfy, etc.). For me and my friends, Isaac was the best Assist! That huge hand obliterate our battles!
PLAYABLE I SWEAR IT!

(People don't give me credibility because I only have less than 500 messages)
Edit: Never mind, I'm in high activity here lately, never noticed it passed 500

 

[MetalMario128]

I'm really thinking that Isaac got promoted from Assist to Playable!

There is no other reason for Sakurai didn't showing him with the others great Assist Trophies (Lyndis, Waluigi, Saki, Starfy, etc.). For me and my friends, Isaac was the best Assist! That huge hand obliterate our battles!
PLAYABLE I SWEAR IT!

(People don't give me credibility because I only have less than 500 messages)

Uhhh you have 514

 

[Leafeon523]

I'm really thinking that Isaac got promoted from Assist to Playable!

There is no other reason for Sakurai didn't showing him with the others great Assist Trophies (Lyndis, Waluigi, Saki, Starfy, etc.). For me and my friends, Isaac was the best Assist! That huge hand obliterate our battles!
PLAYABLE I SWEAR IT!

(People don't give me credibility because I only have less than 500 messages)
Edit: Never mind, I'm in high activity here lately, never noticed it passed 500

Unfortunatly, Isaac was unlockable in brawl. None of the unlockable assists (Ray 01, Barbara, Advance wars, shadow) were shown off either.
Still... we must have hope!

 

[Arteen]

If Isaac's still an assist trophy, I wish Sakurai would just get it over with and show him off. A bunch of assists haven't been shown yet, default or hidden, so his absence doesn't mean much.

Barbara
Excitebike
Gray Fox - Probably out?
Hammer Bro
Helirin
Infantry and Tanks (Advance Wars)
Jill
Jeff
Kat and Anna - Replaced by Ashley?
Lakitu
Mr. Resetti
Ray
Shadow
Tingle

 

[Kycse]

A bunch of assists haven't been shown yet, default or hidden, so his absence doesn't mean much.

Barbara
Excitebike
Gray Fox - Probably out?
Hammer Bro
Helirin
Infantry and Tanks (Advance Wars)
Jill
Jeff
Kat and Anna - Replaced by Ashley?
Lakitu
Mr. Resetti
Ray
Shadow
Tingle

Of those, only certain ones are likely or even possible to be playable. I would cap the amount of characters to get the lil Mac treatment at 3 tops. I think 2 is what will happen but leta just say 3 for good measure. the posaible characters are...
Barbara - unlikely
jill - I cant think of who she is right now
Jeff - very unlikely
Kat/Anna - actually a decent chance and would be cool
Ray - I rhink he's unlikely but he has a following I believe, he's just small but that could change i guess
Tingle - Anither I think is unlikely but has a following. (what would he do?)
Isaac - IMO is the Most likely after Lil Mac to go to playable. great moveset potential with amazing interesting fighting style possibilities and is well liked.
I hope they decided on him being playable and havent showed him for that reason because the list of possible playable ATs is getting very very short. ]

 

[MetalMario128]

Of those, only certain ones are likely or even possible to be playable. I would cap the amount of characters to get the lil Mac treatment at 3 tops. I think 2 is what will happen but leta just say 3 for good measure. the posaible characters are...
Barbara - unlikely
jill - I cant think of who she is right now
Jeff - very unlikely
Kat/Anna - actually a decent chance and would be cool
Ray - I rhink he's unlikely but he has a following I believe, he's just small but that could change i guess
Tingle - Anither I think is unlikely but has a following. (what would he do?)
Isaac - IMO is the Most likely after Lil Mac to go to playable. great moveset potential with amazing interesting fighting style possibilities and is well liked.
I hope they decided on him being playable and havent showed him for that reason because the list of possible playable ATs is getting very very short. ]

Jill is from Drill Dozer.

If two more Assist Trophies got the "Little Mac treatment," I would personally pick Isaac and Ray.

 

[Kycse]

Jill is from Drill Dozer.

If two more Assist Trophies got the "Little Mac treatment," I would personally pick Isaac and Ray.

Ah yes, I remember now. Jill is very unlikely as well. thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Mishudo]

Welp hopefully we get another batch of AT's at E3 to clarify better or not if Isaac has a shot. Let's hope he survives AT genocide #2

 

[AquaDork1]

He's big in Japan? Since when? After the VC release? Really? If so, that's amazing.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Welp hopefully we get another batch of AT's at E3 to clarify better or not if Isaac has a shot. Let's hope he survives AT genocide #2

Better yet: He just gets confirmed.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I feel as though Isaac being excluded again is probably going to be one of the biggest backlashes.

But if it does happen, please leave Shulk and Xenoblade Chronicles alone.

 

[Mishudo]

Of course I'd love that @ Thirdkoopa but I don't think Isaac's quite E3 level hype. Definitely a secret character IMO

@ FlareHabanero Hopefully that doesn't have to happen. and if people blame a character for cockblocking another one then their opinions should be voided in the first place haha. I'm rooting for both sides man, would love the ultimate magic swordsman showdown!

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I feel as though Isaac being excluded again is probably going to be one of the biggest backlashes.

But if it does happen, please leave Shulk and Xenoblade Chronicles alone.

Franky, Xenoblade having a character is while Golden Sundoesn't is one of the least appalling things.

 

[Leafeon523]

Today is Isaac's day in the Rate their Chance thread! Come out and give him your support!

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Better yet: He just gets confirmed.

All we can do is hope that Sakurai really does emphasize uniqueness, because that is easily one of Isaac's biggest advantages.

 

[BluePikmin11]

All we can do is hope that Sakurai really does emphasize uniqueness, because that is easily one of Isaac's biggest advantages.

Chrom will soon destroy your argument, it doesn't all the time.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Chrom will soon destroy your argument, it doesn't all the time.

I know perfectly well that uniqueness is not the be-all-end-all of roster decisions.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Franky, Xenoblade having a character is while Golden Sundoesn't is one of the least appalling things.

I find Chrom getting in over Isaac being more appalling then Shulk getting in over Isaac.

 

[FalKoopa]

Can you take the Chrom hate elsewhere? We get it, you don't like Chrom, but how many times do you have to post it in a day?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

He loves hating on Chrom, especially considering that his inclusion would contradict Sakurai's talk about the emphasis on uniqueness.

 

[DraginHikari]

Uniqueness or not, I don't think Isacc getting in or not isn't going be based on whether a 3rd character from an already existing series in Smash like Fire Emblem is included or not. So it still makes the point of bring Chrom up in this situation kind of odd, though I suppose I shouldn't be that surprised either.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

What's a good English VA for Isaac?

 

[FalKoopa]

I know really little about VA's, but Pit's voice actor Antonio del Rio could work, perhaps.

 

[Altais]

What's a good English VA for Isaac?

Johnny Yong Bosch is mine personal pick. He could use either his Cless Alvein (or Cress Albane) voice, his Guy Cecil voice, or Vash The Stampede voice.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Johnny Yong Bosch is mine personal pick. He could use either his Cless Alvein (or Cress Albane) voice, his Guy Cecil voice, or Vash The Stampede voice.

His Cress Albane voice would seem the most suitable for a more down-to-earth character like Isaac.

 

[ZanZero]

What's a good English VA for Isaac?

JON ST. JOHN, VOICE OF DUKE NUKEM! JOHN DIMAGGIO, VOICE OF JAKE THE DOG AND MARCUS FENIX!
No but really, I could see Johnny Yong Bosch as Young Isaac.
For Adult Isaac I could see Nolan North or Troy Baker.

 

[Altais]

Just a few days left... Soon, the truth shall be...

ed!

 

[JaidynReiman]

Honestly I really do think Isaac was promoted to playable, and I support his inclusion. One major factor is that Smash Bros. helps to raise the popularity of OTHER franchises, they don't really hype Smash Bros. that much. Punch Out and Golden Sun are two popular ones that could definitely use more love, the other I think being Advance Wars (its long overdue). And Isaac would be such a great and unique character.

He'll probably be in his original design if he is, but I wouldn't mind bearded Isaac from Dark Dawn either.

 

[ZanZero]

If all of you Adepts are down for it, I'm itching to try my hand at a moveset for Isaac.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

If all of you Adepts are down for it, I'm itching to try my hand at a moveset for Isaac.

Yes, please.

 

[Mishudo]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but if Isaac got in, do you think it'd necessarily warrant him a stage on both consoles? or specifically on the 3DS because he derives from handheld games? With the recent virtual console, I think it'd be pretty gnarly to have a Wii U stage representing the original Golden Sun, while Dark Dawn is represented on the 3DS

 

[JaidynReiman]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but if Isaac got in, do you think it'd necessarily warrant him a stage on both consoles? or specifically on the 3DS because he derives from handheld games? With the recent virtual console, I think it'd be pretty gnarly to have a Wii U stage representing the original Golden Sun, while Dark Dawn is represented on the 3DS

I think that'd be cool, though for new IP's they might just use the same stage on both versions. Technically Animal Crossing isn't a new IP in Smash Bros. because it had a stage in Brawl (a franchise isn't considered separate unless it has either its own stage or character as playable).

I only played the original Golden Sun about halfway through but I'm planning on replaying it soon. Especially if Isaac is announced at E3 (which I'm hoping, and kinda expecting really).

 

[Altais]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but if Isaac got in, do you think it'd necessarily warrant him a stage on both consoles? or specifically on the 3DS because he derives from handheld games? With the recent virtual console, I think it'd be pretty gnarly to have a Wii U stage representing the original Golden Sun, while Dark Dawn is represented on the 3DS

For the 3DS, I could see the Belinsk Opera house being a stage, with Crystallux and those dark monsters (forget what they were called) as stage hazards.

As for the Wii U, I could see them using Venus Lighthouse, with maybe the Fusion Dragon as a stage boss.

 

[Mishudo]

Both ideas are phenomenal Altais haha. Maybe even the Adept training grounds for the 3DS stage

 

[someonetookjacob]

I can't imagine them NOT using the top of a lighthouse for at least one of the versions... It fits SSB so well! With the main platform in the center, possibly with tiered levels and the two elevators on either side (maybe going up and down?) a fair ways away, with three little floating platforms strung in the air between. And the Music!! ah... Its so perfect!

I think both the venus and mercury lighthouses were layed out this way, but I cant quite remember how the other two were.

 

[Raetah]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but if Isaac got in, do you think it'd necessarily warrant him a stage on both consoles? or specifically on the 3DS because he derives from handheld games? With the recent virtual console, I think it'd be pretty gnarly to have a Wii U stage representing the original Golden Sun, while Dark Dawn is represented on the 3DS

Personally even if Isaac is not in, i expect a 3DS stage of Golden Sun. Virtual Console changes little, 3DS version stages are suposed to be based mostly in handheld series.
If Isaac is playable, we can expect the stage in both versions, for that reason im paying atention in Wii U screenshots.

If you are interested in Stage options, this was discused before in this page:
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...pt-isaac-for-ssb4-big-in-japan.324274/page-46
Here you can find my favorite place of Weyard to be a stage...
Elemental Star Chamber.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Personally even if Isaac is not in, i expect a 3DS stage of Golden Sun. Virtual Console changes little, 3DS version stages are suposed to be based mostly in handheld series.
If Isaac is playable, we can expect the stage in both versions, for that reason im paying atention in Wii U screenshots.

If you are interested in Stage options, this was discused before in this page:
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...pt-isaac-for-ssb4-big-in-japan.324274/page-46
Here you can find my favorite place of Weyard to be a stage...
Elemental Star Chamber.

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking, but its been so long since I played Golden Sun I forgot what it was called. I think that'd be the perfect place to have a Golden Sun-based stage, especially since its right at the beginning of the game so most people would recognize it if they've played the game even for only a short while.

 

[Mishudo]

Thanks for the link Raetah. and that hacked stage is beautiful haha

 

[IntelliHeath1]

Long time supporter of Isaac, but I think Isaac is more likely to be secret character if he ever become playable character. Unfortunately I have a feeling that he would get a pass once again as secret assist trophy here.

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

For the 3DS, I could see the Belinsk Opera house being a stage, with Crystallux and those dark monsters (forget what they were called) as stage hazards.

That's actually a great idea, since that part of the game is actually a reference to the commercial for the original game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOvwdVp8Fvo&feature=kp

I mean, it basically has nothing to do with the first two games, so it was really quite a bizarre commercial, but it would be cool if they referenced it again! And really, who doesn't want to do battle in an Opera House?